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Is Horizon Zero Dawn going to be the next big gaming disappointment?
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Yeah, this game was being planned out before Killzone Shadow Fall was probably in full production (so 2010-ish).
BlanketFort
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Ask yourself questions about this system... if they are punishing players for waiting and making informed decisions they can't really give two shits about you, can they?
I feel for you in Canada. You're not alone in being preyed upon, thats for sure. Still, unfortunate to be stuck in a tough spot of gambling on promise and marketing hoping for a quality piece of entertainment versus making a costly, yet measured decision.
If you have the money, and I'm guessing you do... if you can spot $60 you can probably spot $80... I strongly encourage you to bite the bullet and be as informed as a consumer as you can be, and wait.
Immortal Technique
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They're not hiding the gameplay, and it looks plenty good to me.
StrongBlackVine
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So because one game by publisher was disappointment all games should be viewed increased skepticism. I wonder how this would work if the same standard was applied to every publisher in the industry? And why do use a failure like The Order instead of a success like Uncharted 4, Bloodborne, inFAMOUS Second Son, Ratchet & Clank, Until Dawn etc?
Atom Heart Mother
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It'll look pretty, but it won't play very well, going by Guerilla's track record. They should stick to engine development/graphics. Hopefully it is good! Days Gone, now THAT will be a disappointment.
Samanosuke Akechi
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BlanketFort
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Reconsider your response when more and more games are broken, ship incomplete, require massive patches and ultimately fail to deliver on the promise marketed to you (because they don't have to... you already paid them).
I really do not understand this juvenile response.
Fanboyism of a console or franchise is one thing. Fanboyism of blind consumerism is something else.
Conciliator
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I don't think the story/characters are going to be very good. But I don't know man, the exploration and combat look dope and the setting is unique. The enemies are extremely cool and beautifully animated. I think it will be good.
That's understandable, but I do think Horizon is going to be a game worth having a little patience with. Open world game by a developer with no history with the genre? Sure it looks beautiful to me but I think early bugs and massive patches are incredibly likely.
Unless someone reallly has the money burning a hole in their pocket, I'd advise against either pre-ordering or buying at launch- it's a single player game and if it's any good, it'll be even better and cheaper a few months after launch. It's going to have a massive print run so the price will drop like a rock.
Alternatively you could at least compromise and not pre-order until a few days before launch- you'll still get your discount but have much more information with which to make a decision. Like whether there's a review embargo, more videos, more previews etc.
Xaero Gravity
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Graphically it looks great, but I'm not expecting much out of the story so my expectations are in check. I hated the fact that the main character doesn't shut the fuck up, but I've been told that was just for demo purposes.
Lead writer for Fallout New Vegas, John Gonzalez, is writing the story.
Hypertrooper
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I played it at PAX Prime last year and I was pretty disappointed. Gameplay was not that good and pretty boring. But to the defense of the game, it was only a 10min. demo at most and it has to have a lot of RPG elements.
I would wait tho. Uncharted and other first party titles have been dropped their 60 mark tag way too fast these days.
I would wait tho. Uncharted and other first party titles have been dropped their 60 mark tag way too fast these days.
ASilentProtagonist
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The game looks flat out boring to me.
You mean games in general.
DonMigs85
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The pre-order bonuses don't seem particularly good either
StrongBlackVine
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I love all these armchair financial advisors. People buying games day one know that we can get these games cheaper by waiting.
I'm a little surprised people are so wary of the combat in Horizon. Most open world western games have poor to serviceable combat like skyrim, fallout, hell even GTA.
Horizon looks more impressive system wise than a lot of open world games. Is the sentiment that combat looks average due to the main weapon being a bow?
I just love those armchair games experts that preorder games and then are the first to complain when they are riddled with bugs and demand immediate fixes after paying the highest possible price. A little patience rather than throwing money at publishers months in advance because of hype could have avoided it, is that really terrible advice? Seriously, a developer is making its first open world game. Why buy blind?
Wolfgang Jr
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Games that tell you absolutely NOTHING about the gameplay and just show you graphics (read: NMS), yeah, be weary.
texhnolyze
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Wow, it's gonna be that big? Huge expectation there. Not that I'm complaining, I'm pumped instead.
Is that what you think is happening with this game? Because you are wrong.
It's fair to be skeptical.
If you remember the run up to The Order, then it makes complete sense why a quieter than usual marketing run up would make you cautious. Out of those three new IP, The Order had -- by far -- the most muted and trickle-down info to release. That's why I used it as an example.
You're wrong but okay.
There's a variety of gameplay videos on YouTube and from trade shows. It hasn't just been a focus on graphics.
So when you say 'nothing' has been shown in gameplay your totally false. Either your trolling, misguided or quite dense.
OléGunner;227242057 said:
Hmm I dunno, but it'd be interesting if that was part of it for a lot of people. Where like, if they consider stuff like Fallout or Skyrim to be poor, then Horizon is average at best? I myself tend to be looking for more flashier stuff nowadays I guess, although that's not my reason for holding off on buying this anytime soon.
I can't fault anyone for not wanting people to pre-order, though obviously they can expect for people to tell them to leave them be. Like you said, people who pre-order know by now that stuff gets cheaper, or that there is a risk of bugs/patches, etc. It doesn't matter to them; getting the game ASAP is more important, or maybe the combination of pre-order exclusives + discounts make it worth it.
DangerMouse
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They've beefed up in the areas they were previously "weak" in (in Killzone, a really old series for them) for this game and also hired some very skilled RPG designers, so what track record?
Also, people who tried it at E3 said the controls were really good and very responsive, but ofcourse it's just a demo so it's not like they had a lot to do.
Like StrongBlackVine said
we know they were working on this game at the same time so it's not all the same people.
L O fucking L.
They've shown live gameplay quite a bit.
OléGunner;227242057 said:
This. This is one of the biggest reasons I'm looking forward to it. Finally a game like this that looks like it has great combat.
Brad Grenz
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This is comically ignorant. For most of the genre's life viewpoints well below what should be the natural eye line have been the norm.
This is off topic, but Cage has never represented himself as some amazing writer. His interest has always been focused on emotional representation in games and the advancements in that area afforded by new technology. But his writing has always been pretty unapologetically pulpy genre fair.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
What fight? She just climbed that brontobot and hacked it.
T-Rex fight from the reveal. You are talking about the most recent footage.
Lead writer for Shadow of Mordor, John Gonzalez, is writing the story. Doesnt sound very good.
Lol Witcher 3 has really ruined certain games for me. When you know how the ceiling can be in terms of quests and story and what not for these open world games, I can't help but be weary of whether or not similar games will measure up. And currently, I no longer Horizon's gameplay/combat compelling enough to just bite the bullet and worry about such things later. I need dem reviews first, which of course, is how it should be lol... But meh.
My opinion would probably instantly change if you hack a machine that flies and well... fly yourself. Been a sucker for stuff like that as of late.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
That's too bad. The recent footage put me to sleep.
funkystudent
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It looks like a Far Cry game not made by Ubisoft so it might be good to see a old formula taken in a new direction
These kinda open world, tower climbing, resource finding, upgrade crafting open world games kind of live or die by how much good content vrs filler they have and right now I dont know what way that is going to go.
These kinda open world, tower climbing, resource finding, upgrade crafting open world games kind of live or die by how much good content vrs filler they have and right now I dont know what way that is going to go.
NegativeCero
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I hope not, but after NMS, no more preorders for anything. I don't care how many videos or demos there are out there.
Feels like people expect Platinum or FromSoft combat for these types of games. I've seen several same things said about TW3 which I found a bit weird. I guess if the world building is good with interesting side quests etc, people tend to be more forgiving.
Haha don't do this to yourself man. TW3 set the bar too high for open world games.
If Horizon can be even a third as good as TW3 we should be quite happy
LegendofDragoonLives
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My worries fall under story and esp characters. The rest from what I've seen will be great.
DangerMouse
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Not only that he's straw-manning citing just footage from the Pro event who's sole purpose was showing off something gorgeous in 4K from several games. The agenda is hilarious.
Chaos2Frozen
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So are you going to check out the initial trailer to be better informed or continue to make a fool out of yoursel?
DangerMouse
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Agreed. Story and characters will take this from what I hope will be really good to great if they can nail them.
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