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AMD: Next Xbox Graphics Will Look Like AVATAR
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jim-jam bongs
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MrBig said:
First off, dynamic foliage systems usually use basic collision detection and don't in any way guarantee that clipping won't occur. And besides, let's ignore foliage for a second and consider the computational overhead of calculating fully dynamic deformations for cloth of varying thicknesses and stiffness.
Parallax mapping isn't really a solution to the problem I mentioned since steep parallax mapping still looks like shit. Tesselation on the other hand is great. To say that they its coming into "wide use" is total crap though, and the technique will need to improve substantially before it completely eliminates the "good from the front, shame about the side" problem.
And I'm not sure how you go from "AI is limited by either the CPU or GPU" to "has nothing to do with hardware", but that was a pretty spectacular bit of cognitive dissonance. Also, I'm not talking about AI as much as facial-animation. Tesselation and displacement mapping will help a lot to make real-time facial animation more convincing, but it's unlikely we're going to see widespread usage for a long time.
SolarPowered
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They don't do a single thing to harm their credibility because only two types of people care about these things. People who can't effect any change like us and the people who want to cash in on the next big thing. It doesn't matter if it's bullshit and lies. Hell, if you spend any time looking at how the corporate world works it is all one big farce that drives the system.Monocle said:
This industry is like a microcosm of that one with even worse properties. I'm just here to play games because nothing we say will change much about the hardware or the PR haha.
herzogzwei1989
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gundamkyoukai said:
Next-gen should have a more even split between 720p and 1080p.
milanbaros
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If the next gen consoles from Sony and Mcrosoft are released in 2013 we should see a huge leap in graphics.
It will be 8 years after the 360.
It will be 8 years after the 360.
dragonelite
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Just hope microsoft enforces 1080p for 2 years or so like they did 720p till halo3 hit.
Just so people get used to 1080p and will complain if it didn't hit that target.
Just so people get used to 1080p and will complain if it didn't hit that target.
dragonelite
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szaromir said:
I could have sworn they enforced third party devs 720p with 2xMsaa because of the Edram.
Maybe somebody fucked with and told bullshit to me. Wasn't that big of a gamer or into game development.
herzogzwei1989
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szaromir said:
PGR3 for example, wasn't 720p, IIRC.
jim-jam bongs
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That Uncharted pic is causing Chrome to throw up a malware warning. Clever browser.
iamshadowlark
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This was true.They tried to include it in the trc, but got so much backlash that they removed the requirement.dragonelite said:
mckmas8808
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StevieP said:
Dude I think you will be very surprised come 2014 when the PS4 and Xbox 3 show itself to be very powerful.
And I don't care that it was a scripted cutscene. All games that I play have an in-engine cutscene. It sells and explains to me the story. So you aren't saying anything new or making the Samaritan video look worse by explaining that it's a scripted video.
herzogzwei1989
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I'm still expecting a 2013 release for Xbox and for it to be able to handle PS2-quality CG in real-time, not Avatar.
herzogzwei1989
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StevieP said:
Sorry, I worded that extremely badly, you know what I meant
ScionOfTheRisingSun
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I cant wait when all of the endless graphic whoring leads to the bottom falling out of the home console segment and we are all stuck with iPad graphics.
It will be incredibly heart wrenching but also incredibly well deserved by creators and consumers alike.
It will be incredibly heart wrenching but also incredibly well deserved by creators and consumers alike.
herzogzwei1989
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We still have along way to go in the field of real-time rendering. I think some of you are going to be amazed, once again, at what next-gen consoles will be capable of.
I cannot wait to see the look on some of your faces ^__^
I cannot wait to see the look on some of your faces ^__^
Infamous Chris
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herzogzwei1989 said:
I didn't know you can see our faces through your monitor.
herzogzwei1989
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Infamous Chris said:
Oh but I can ^__^
Infamous Chris
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herzogzwei1989 said:
herzogzwei1989
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Infamous Chris said:
no that would be ;_;
Anyway back on-topic.
AMD recently had their conference call, can someone pull that up so we can look at it or listen to it ? Thanks.
OG_Original Gamer
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I'm thinking they'll match the CG we have seen in current gen games, nothing on the same level as AVATAR. We'll definitely see games that surpass Crysis 2 (DX11-High Res Textures) and BF3.
ScionOfTheRisingSun
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McHuj said:
Well, you know what they say about history...
herzogzwei1989
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The 9x leap in graphics PR for Apple iPad was because they went from PowerVR MBX to SGX, if I'm not mistaken.
Would anyone like something similar to a Nvidea control panel were you could assign profiles to games with forced graphical improvements ?
For example, say the game could be 1920x1080 with 60fps stock but you could sacrifice resolution and framerate for extra AA and AF and post processing effects.
For example, say the game could be 1920x1080 with 60fps stock but you could sacrifice resolution and framerate for extra AA and AF and post processing effects.
Marco1 said:
I'm not sure that would be a great idea. Optimizing around such a set up would be an issue I'd imagine.
Didn't Two Worlds 2 allow consoles to use a command console to toggle some effects? I guess allowing gamers to turn off effects for greater performance (like Bioshock turning off v-sync) is a good idea, but to allow too many on/off options just sounds like a bad idea IMO.
jim-jam bongs
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We have gone as far as we can go in the field of real-time rendering. I think some of you are going to be disappointed, once again, at what next-gen consoles will be capable of.
I cannot wait to see the look on some of your faces ^__^
I cannot wait to see the look on some of your faces ^__^
jim-jam bongs
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FoxSpirit said:
Oh that wasn't a serious post, I was just seeing if everyone would agree with me and become "intrigued" if I made the exact same post as that other guy in the reverse, or if they only do that when someone makes baseless claims that they want to believe are true. You just got caught in the crossfire.
ScionOfTheRisingSun
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gatti-man said:
You are right the PC has been such a consistent and exemplary host for games on the absolute bleeding edge for the last 10 years, why would that rich vein suddenly falter.
herzogzwei1989
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FoxSpirit said:
This current gen has not been disappointing really, it's just that now, after 5/6 years of advancement, silicon has moved on (on the PC side).
Yes we have come a long way, but that could be done all over again soon when next-gen consoles arrive.
mckmas8808
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herzogzwei1989 said:
Yep! Can't wait.
OG_Original Gamer
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I'm wondering what direction MS and Sony is going to go, when balancing the cost for power and memory capcity, can we get the best of both worlds or they have sacrifice one for the other.
Mithos
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Was thinking of this thread when I saw this update for "Unlimited Detail", and maybe this is what will be used to accomplish their claim?
Unlimited Detail (July 31st, 2011)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKUuUvDSXk4
Unlimited Detail (July 31st, 2011)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKUuUvDSXk4
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