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What would you like to see in a Persona 5: Crimson? aka Persona 5: Golden
- Thread starter Trojita
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NoctisVsStar
Member
CruxisMana
Member
What happens to the dog in Yogen-jaya?!?
Suzushiiro
Banned
Realistically, there's not much they could add- them putting in more time/effort than they did for P4 Golden is highly unlikely, and the major content addition of P4G- Marie's dungeon and the extra time leading up to it in February- isn't a thing they could do in P5, since you destroy the Metaverse at the end of the main story. Any major new content would have to be put in the middle of the game, which would require rearranging/compressing everything that happens before/after it, which on top of being a much larger effort would turn it into a drastically different game rather than the same game with extra content on top.
Well they
destroyed Tokyo metaverse
Maintenance
Member
First and foremost, for it to exist or even be announced. Anything else is filler at the moment.
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
What
formasymphonic
Member
Already said this elsewhere, and it could be added with relatively little changes to the game as it is now:
Some additional stuff:
- In Futaba's "I should choose my words carefully" dialogue option, there should be a choice for
- Dramatically increased amounts of voiced dialogue like P4G got.
- Give MC voiced dialogue, they have him talk rarely anyway and they are going to make him talk in the anime so why not just do it anyway. Such a waste of the quality of his VAs as it is now tbh. Even if not all, there are some key emotional scenes where joker says nothing that really highlight the weakness of the silent protagonist formula.
- Better subtitling on the animated cutscenes. Some of this was handled really badly.
- Make Hifumi a party member like originally planned. Can you imagine the hilarious chunni shit we are missing out on that she could be spouting while using her persona? Also her confidant perks make way more sense for someone who is part of the team.
- More side locations / hangout spots (or additional spots for you visit when you post rank 10 with someone?)
- Do some minor stuff to allude to romances after they have been established. Some requests I've seen include having your partner text you more, sit next to you more, hold hands on dates etc. I don't know how feasible these are to retrofit and deal with the "what happened if you are dating multiple partners" scenarios tbh - so i think we'll be waiting for P6 for this. Some additional date locations post rank 10 and being able to see them outside their usual time could be a good compromise though.
- Make the Devil Confidant more useful by having one of her perks be something like recommendations for dialogue choices in demon negotiations. This can tie into her being a reporter and being able to find things out about people or something.
- AoA screen for Futaba if you kill enemies after position hack, seen as it was her who did most of the work for that.
- Higer res textures for the signs in Shibuya train station so you can more easily work out how to get to where you want to go.
More group events. One or two earlier in the game, but particularly in late game / winter. [LATE GAME SPOILERS]
- Hawaii trip was pretty weak as a group event imo. Having Ryuuji lampshading that it "was no better than being at home", doesn't absolve the fact that it was super dry as a group event Atlus. If Hifumi does get included, then a new Hawaii group event (maybe day before last day?) could include her.
- Ideally some slight changes to dates
. As a bonus, this would give people a few extra days for wrapping up confidants, doing fusions, shopping/inventory stuff etc.
- Some addional events between
, would be great to see. E.g. A follow up to
. And some time to focus on the third years
- and the last part could also serve as a meta preparation for
Some stuff to remove/alter:
- Ryuuji's instakill perk can be fixed pretty easily by removing it from being active all the time, and instead requiring him to be in the active party.
- Confidants that require level 5 in a skill... then provide you with stats to the same skill as a reward? At least make it another skill or something.
- On days when all you can do is sleep, change it so you can read or watch a DVD. The game could balance/punish this by saying "you fell asleep while _______" and then instead of giving you 2-3 points for that activity, you just get 1-2. The implication being that because you fell alseep while doing it, you weren't able to get the maximum value out of it.
- I don't really expect them to make major changes to any of the confidants, but Ann's could be made better by
- I would say tone down some of Makoto's overshadowing of the remainder of the group, but that isn't going to happen. So they could make it less of an issue by having some of the tactical, planning, ideas stuff come from a newly included Hifumi, and some from you as the Leader of the group.
It could be argued that the game already has this tbh... but yeh the last thing it any persona game needs is another Marie situation.
EDIT: some perks for people who already bought P5,
A save import from vanilla that gives you some minor head start options
- like start with some extra cash
- start at rank 1 or 2 charm/guts/proficiency/kindness/knowledge (or maybe 4 of them a rank one and you can pick one for rank 2?)
- some reasonable stat armour/weapons etcstart at rank 1 for charm). Nothing too good or it will take the fun out of playing again.
- include all the DLC costumes/music/persona etc
Some additional stuff:
- In Futaba's "I should choose my words carefully" dialogue option, there should be a choice for
"because we're family"
- Give MC voiced dialogue, they have him talk rarely anyway and they are going to make him talk in the anime so why not just do it anyway. Such a waste of the quality of his VAs as it is now tbh. Even if not all, there are some key emotional scenes where joker says nothing that really highlight the weakness of the silent protagonist formula.
- Better subtitling on the animated cutscenes. Some of this was handled really badly.
- Make Hifumi a party member like originally planned. Can you imagine the hilarious chunni shit we are missing out on that she could be spouting while using her persona? Also her confidant perks make way more sense for someone who is part of the team.
- More side locations / hangout spots (or additional spots for you visit when you post rank 10 with someone?)
- Do some minor stuff to allude to romances after they have been established. Some requests I've seen include having your partner text you more, sit next to you more, hold hands on dates etc. I don't know how feasible these are to retrofit and deal with the "what happened if you are dating multiple partners" scenarios tbh - so i think we'll be waiting for P6 for this. Some additional date locations post rank 10 and being able to see them outside their usual time could be a good compromise though.
- Make the Devil Confidant more useful by having one of her perks be something like recommendations for dialogue choices in demon negotiations. This can tie into her being a reporter and being able to find things out about people or something.
- AoA screen for Futaba if you kill enemies after position hack, seen as it was her who did most of the work for that.
- Higer res textures for the signs in Shibuya train station so you can more easily work out how to get to where you want to go.
More group events. One or two earlier in the game, but particularly in late game / winter. [LATE GAME SPOILERS]
- Hawaii trip was pretty weak as a group event imo. Having Ryuuji lampshading that it "was no better than being at home", doesn't absolve the fact that it was super dry as a group event Atlus. If Hifumi does get included, then a new Hawaii group event (maybe day before last day?) could include her.
- Ideally some slight changes to dates
so you can have Christmas and New Years. The events that happen on xmas eve can happen as normal. You say you need more time, and Sae says something like she "can't delay them any longer than the holidays" and "they'll take action at the beginning of the new year when they know there will be less scrutiny"
- Some addional events between
February & March.
Valentine's Day Massacre, on White Day (Mar 14), maybe buying a gift or something or not and some comedic dialogue there for poor gift choices. Or pleasant date if you only romanced one character.
as March would be their graduation ceremony.
Joker's leaving at the end of the year. Maybe they could use this to dig a little into his life back home to justify why he would want to go back. The above could be done in a velvet room fight your own demons mini-dungeon. This could play out similar to the bonus ep of the P4 anime with Yu's shadow. They could also have Lavenza guide you as an opportunity to give her some more screen time.
Some stuff to remove/alter:
- Ryuuji's instakill perk can be fixed pretty easily by removing it from being active all the time, and instead requiring him to be in the active party.
- Confidants that require level 5 in a skill... then provide you with stats to the same skill as a reward? At least make it another skill or something.
- On days when all you can do is sleep, change it so you can read or watch a DVD. The game could balance/punish this by saying "you fell asleep while _______" and then instead of giving you 2-3 points for that activity, you just get 1-2. The implication being that because you fell alseep while doing it, you weren't able to get the maximum value out of it.
- I don't really expect them to make major changes to any of the confidants, but Ann's could be made better by
removing the TV star bit that goes nowhere and replacing it with the two of you going to visit Shiho in hospital/physiotherapy. This could also be the gateway to a Shiho confidant if they decide to add one.
It could be argued that the game already has this tbh... but yeh the last thing it any persona game needs is another Marie situation.
EDIT: some perks for people who already bought P5,
A save import from vanilla that gives you some minor head start options
- like start with some extra cash
- start at rank 1 or 2 charm/guts/proficiency/kindness/knowledge (or maybe 4 of them a rank one and you can pick one for rank 2?)
- some reasonable stat armour/weapons etcstart at rank 1 for charm). Nothing too good or it will take the fun out of playing again.
- include all the DLC costumes/music/persona etc
Simon-chan
Member
A femaline MC option.
Gai Murakumo
Member
I uh hmmmm. I do not know what to tell you.
-Switch version (this is being repeated to hell and back, but a long RPG like this is practically the raison d'etre for the console).
-Some more side events to balance out the prominence of the main plot (I agree that the game's cast is great, but doesn't get nearly enough time as P4's cast to just hang out).
-Hifumi as a party member. I'd love to see how she'd fit into the party dynamic considering her confidant was an enjoyable story)
-FeMC. Though the director already stated this would be too much additional work, I'd still love to see it.
-Polishing up the localization. Goes without saying, despite me thinking it's solid outside of a few awkward instances.
-Finally the endgame.
-Some more side events to balance out the prominence of the main plot (I agree that the game's cast is great, but doesn't get nearly enough time as P4's cast to just hang out).
-Hifumi as a party member. I'd love to see how she'd fit into the party dynamic considering her confidant was an enjoyable story)
-FeMC. Though the director already stated this would be too much additional work, I'd still love to see it.
-Polishing up the localization. Goes without saying, despite me thinking it's solid outside of a few awkward instances.
-Finally the endgame.
Some additional time between Palace 7 and the end scenario would give the game some much-needed time to breathe.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Her design rules. And she's a chuuni
Shifty1897
Member
For real, that Switch port. Nintendo needs to throw some marketing dollars to make that happen.
NoctisVsStar
Member
This dream has to stop, the mainline games seem to be Sony only for whatever reason. I'm sure spinoffs will arrive on the switch but keep on the good fight I guess .
FeMC, and hopefully they add anime scenes for her.
Romance option for Yusuke.
Extra scenes showing the cruelty of the other villains. The stories behind them are fine, but show some of it. Kamoshida? Great. Kaneshiro? Barely in the game.
It wouldn't be the worst if they left Morgana as is, but if they wanted to do something about him finding his human form, I'd like to see that. Maybe release MC earlier and having that happen between December and March. Might have to change some story stuff, though. Idk.
I don't expect the bolded to happen, but it's what I want the most. The whole game is good, but it starts so strongly for me and the rest doesn't give me too many moments like that when it could. That's the worst thing about the game for me.
Romance option for Yusuke.
Extra scenes showing the cruelty of the other villains. The stories behind them are fine, but show some of it. Kamoshida? Great. Kaneshiro? Barely in the game.
It wouldn't be the worst if they left Morgana as is, but if they wanted to do something about him finding his human form, I'd like to see that. Maybe release MC earlier and having that happen between December and March. Might have to change some story stuff, though. Idk.
I don't expect the bolded to happen, but it's what I want the most. The whole game is good, but it starts so strongly for me and the rest doesn't give me too many moments like that when it could. That's the worst thing about the game for me.
Dead End Irony
Member
Gonna try to be realistic with my requests here:
1. Seeing a lot of hopes for FemMC. It'd be nice and usually more options is better, but the team showed zero signs of improvements with social links with 1 MC outside of the perks. I'd personally rather have drastically improved social links for one MC opposed to two mediocre sets of social links for two MCs. I can easily see the dev team leaving the current confidants unchanged in favor of FemMC with slightly altered shitty confidants with a different smell. As far as improvements go, maybe have some of your max ranked social links alter a couple of story scenes. Maybe have you and your girlfriend have a special attack or something. Different dialogue inside of safe rooms. A lot needs to be improved and I was just thoroughly unimpressed with the social links this time around.
2. Lala social link. Missed opportunity there. Loved Lala as a character and I wanted to learn more. Just an underused character IMO.
3. Freaking music. More variety. What's there is excellent. Lyn did an outstanding job and I love acid jazz, but no vocal track for day to day life sucked. LeBlanc needed it's own music. School needed its own music. "Life Goes On" should've been played more. The regions (i.e. Yongen Jaya, Shibuya) all could've used their own songs. LOVED Last Surprise, but would've liked an extra battle theme.
4. Shorten the dungeons and add 1-2 more.
5. Bigger areas/cities. Really liked the locations in Persona 5, but they were all kind of small and I feel that Persona 5 being a PS3 game contributed to this. Hopefully the remaster is exclusive to current gen consoles.
6. More team events/bonding
7. EDIT: give me more time! I think Morgana forcing you to sleep is to prevent a max SL run on your first playthrough. Yeah fuck all that. I want more time. I feel the current game pushes you too much toward NG+. Just feels cheap.
It's unfortunate that I have a list this long. Persona 5 was really looking like my dream game at first, but it ended up disappointing me more and more as I progressed. Still loved it overall, but it didn't quite reach the GOAT status for me. The potential is definitely there. Just hoping they bring the heat with a remaster.
1. Seeing a lot of hopes for FemMC. It'd be nice and usually more options is better, but the team showed zero signs of improvements with social links with 1 MC outside of the perks. I'd personally rather have drastically improved social links for one MC opposed to two mediocre sets of social links for two MCs. I can easily see the dev team leaving the current confidants unchanged in favor of FemMC with slightly altered shitty confidants with a different smell. As far as improvements go, maybe have some of your max ranked social links alter a couple of story scenes. Maybe have you and your girlfriend have a special attack or something. Different dialogue inside of safe rooms. A lot needs to be improved and I was just thoroughly unimpressed with the social links this time around.
2. Lala social link. Missed opportunity there. Loved Lala as a character and I wanted to learn more. Just an underused character IMO.
3. Freaking music. More variety. What's there is excellent. Lyn did an outstanding job and I love acid jazz, but no vocal track for day to day life sucked. LeBlanc needed it's own music. School needed its own music. "Life Goes On" should've been played more. The regions (i.e. Yongen Jaya, Shibuya) all could've used their own songs. LOVED Last Surprise, but would've liked an extra battle theme.
4. Shorten the dungeons and add 1-2 more.
5. Bigger areas/cities. Really liked the locations in Persona 5, but they were all kind of small and I feel that Persona 5 being a PS3 game contributed to this. Hopefully the remaster is exclusive to current gen consoles.
6. More team events/bonding
7. EDIT: give me more time! I think Morgana forcing you to sleep is to prevent a max SL run on your first playthrough. Yeah fuck all that. I want more time. I feel the current game pushes you too much toward NG+. Just feels cheap.
It's unfortunate that I have a list this long. Persona 5 was really looking like my dream game at first, but it ended up disappointing me more and more as I progressed. Still loved it overall, but it didn't quite reach the GOAT status for me. The potential is definitely there. Just hoping they bring the heat with a remaster.
Mustang 00
Member
I mean, can you imagine Hifumi spouting her chuunibyou nonesense as your navigator in the battle field. It would be glorious!
Stead Fast
Banned
Marie. Same story as before, with poems and everything.
Devilgunman
Member
English description on materials like newspapers, signs or TV broadcast. I know it's not easy but I loss immersion when I can't read all the signs in Shibuya or Akihabara.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
Will never happen. Xbox One doesn't have the interest of Japanese devs, and Atlus themselves have said not to expect P5 PC.
Shifty1897
Member
Guys we've all forgotten about the most important thing:
A better localization.
A better localization.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
I get where you are coming from, but it's funny to see you say you lose immersion because the signs in Shibuya are in Japanese
I think this might have been planned at some point, found pretty weird that Futaba could be equipped armor and had SP and HP.
I don't think previous navigators ever had that.
I'd suggest Optional playable Mishima, it was kinda fucked up how people treated him when you think about him being so crucial to the Phantom thieves and the plot and
How he was one of Kamoshida's victims
Yeah hahaha, my immersion was more damaged when the characters spoke about being unable to speak english....in english.
shnurgleton
Member
Don't need a Golden version.
Give me Persona Kart.
Give me Persona Kart.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
(November spoilers)
Make
a party member,
.
Make it less obvious that
.
Let me date Ryuji or Yusuke already.
Selectable BGM in Mementos, like P3FES added to Tartarus.
Bonus postgame dungeon, again like P3FES.
Make
Sae Niijima
she could just take over Akechi's moveset and fill that void
Make it less obvious that
Akechi isn't sticking around - more skills and a swimsuit costume like everyone else has
Let me date Ryuji or Yusuke already.
Selectable BGM in Mementos, like P3FES added to Tartarus.
Bonus postgame dungeon, again like P3FES.
formasymphonic
Member
crtl+f "Switch"...
Persona 5: Crimson
Portbega 5: Coveted
Portbega 5: Coveted
Dead End Irony
Member
Most important thing for some people. Would be nice, but the current job didn't bother me too much. I can think of about 10-12 things I'd like to see before an improved localization.
KyleOnTheRun
Member
Kinda my #1 request, TBH.
Tbh, I've never played the portable versions of 3 and 4, only FES and OG P4.
Moreover, I don't particularly care for a lot of the changes/additions from the sound of it, in those versions.
I feel similarly about the suggestions in here, often times. For example, I'd be pissed if
I also do not think the game is crying out for a FeMC. While I think Persona needs more eligible male material (and less eligible female material), Persona 5 doesn't have it. (I think they need that for more than just FeMC. I really think they could do with more than just 1 male friend and one wildcard male that's more badass). If they did that, they should put the work into making new social links, I think. Definitely don't want them just to make everyone bi and have it be straight guy's lesbian dream palace. Nor do I think they would.
One thing I would like is more "investigation" time, for requests and the stories. I'd like to have to move around Tokyo more and not just have prolonged losses of control and requests via text. Setting took some hits this way.
...
Still, I would like this game on Switch. I'd have rather had it on Switch this time around and it wouldn't have suffered for it, in terms of performance.
Moreover, I don't particularly care for a lot of the changes/additions from the sound of it, in those versions.
I feel similarly about the suggestions in here, often times. For example, I'd be pissed if
Akechi came back. Guy is a) a murderer, b) a would-be murderer of you, c) somehow (unspecified) involved in the murder of Futaba's mom while being the murderer of Haru's dad, and d) drove other people to criminal madness. The damn "oh poor Akechi had daddy issues; he's a young handsome man so my girl heart needs to break over his tragic sacrifice" already annoyed me. Guy was shit and his tragedy was half-baked and dumped on you in an info dump. Really a bad "anime" moment. If they doubled down on that and did rival character is now your character because they also want revenge against real bad guy...my god that would be so dumb.
I also do not think the game is crying out for a FeMC. While I think Persona needs more eligible male material (and less eligible female material), Persona 5 doesn't have it. (I think they need that for more than just FeMC. I really think they could do with more than just 1 male friend and one wildcard male that's more badass). If they did that, they should put the work into making new social links, I think. Definitely don't want them just to make everyone bi and have it be straight guy's lesbian dream palace. Nor do I think they would.
One thing I would like is more "investigation" time, for requests and the stories. I'd like to have to move around Tokyo more and not just have prolonged losses of control and requests via text. Setting took some hits this way.
...
Still, I would like this game on Switch. I'd have rather had it on Switch this time around and it wouldn't have suffered for it, in terms of performance.
Most of the stuff I want has been mentioned, so I'm going to try to say something original:
The Sunday shopping show! What the hell was up with that? There were numerous Sundays in which you were able to access either the TV upstairs or downstairs (if not both) but there was no shopping show. I remember there being days in P4 in which they didn't want you to buy anything (for some reason), but they would still have the show on the air, but the item would already be sold out. Even that would be better than just seeing the news on TV with no mention of the weekly show.
And the items themselves were pretty lackluster. Seemed to be all accessories or large quantities of low-quality items (sodas and such). I liked it in P3 and 4 when you would see a new weapon for a character, but it would be expensive and you had to decide if it would be worth ordering or not.
The Sunday shopping show! What the hell was up with that? There were numerous Sundays in which you were able to access either the TV upstairs or downstairs (if not both) but there was no shopping show. I remember there being days in P4 in which they didn't want you to buy anything (for some reason), but they would still have the show on the air, but the item would already be sold out. Even that would be better than just seeing the news on TV with no mention of the weekly show.
And the items themselves were pretty lackluster. Seemed to be all accessories or large quantities of low-quality items (sodas and such). I liked it in P3 and 4 when you would see a new weapon for a character, but it would be expensive and you had to decide if it would be worth ordering or not.
Wyndstryker
Member
Aside from what everyone else already said. We need more cameos of previous persona chars.
Mitsuru and her shadow ops would so notice what's going on. Naoto should have caught wind of the psychotic breakdowns. Rookie cop akihito should be in the force helping sae or something. Junpei should pop up at the batting cages. Ann should bump into yukari due to modelling job. Have nanakos class show up for a school trip to the city. Have Elizabeth show up for some random reason.
Mitsuru and her shadow ops would so notice what's going on. Naoto should have caught wind of the psychotic breakdowns. Rookie cop akihito should be in the force helping sae or something. Junpei should pop up at the batting cages. Ann should bump into yukari due to modelling job. Have nanakos class show up for a school trip to the city. Have Elizabeth show up for some random reason.
Linkstrikesback
Member
If you look at the actual situation, you'd realise that's an incredibly shortsighted thing to say. If P5 Crimson happens it'll either be A)PS4 DLC, B) PS4 retail release, C) A switch game, or some combination of the above.
No company is going to waste a high profile release on a vita exclusive, when it has the potential to easily be another million+ seller on other consoles that are very much more healthy than it, and dreaming up a exclusivity deal isn't going to convince anyone. I have a vita (as always, you can feel free to check my playstation profile, same as my gaf name), but to expect anything like a P5 remake now on it is nothing short of delusional.
Nah, leave that stuff to the almost inevitable spin offs, given the recent URL purchases
Serenade_King
Banned
That's one way to make me buy Persona 5 again
. But honestly I just wish that the party was more diverse, like having Iwai be part of the gang!Sure don't EXPECT it but that's to preserve the surprise when it totally happens!
Irishonion
Member
I'm not very far into the story, but less restrictive nights.
I'm not sure why on day off of school (so far anyway or sure if it opens up) you wake up after school and evening. I only have 2 activities on a off day?
I mean I slept in on my off days but never 3 or 4 pm >.>
I'm not sure why on day off of school (so far anyway or sure if it opens up) you wake up after school and evening. I only have 2 activities on a off day?
I mean I slept in on my off days but never 3 or 4 pm >.>
POTUS 2016
Banned
Why would Persona 5: Crimson be acceptable? How do you think the early adopters feel, or the ones that beat it already? I've sunk 120 hours into this game and I'd hate to see a superior version of this come out (thus concluding that I'd have wasted 120 hours on an inferior product).
I'd rather this rumored "Crimson" thing be an anime to be honest.
I'd rather this rumored "Crimson" thing be an anime to be honest.
Autoignition
Member
... Welcome to Persona?
Stereogatari
Banned
Better navigation in the Velvet Room. The Menus are cumbersome.
