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cj_iwakura · Apr 30, 2017

Robocop 1 is widely regarded as a legit classic, so there's no need to sell its praises.

The sequel isn't nearly as appreciated.

It had a different director and a different writer, but IMO, it still manages the same tone as the original, even if not as quite on the nose with being satirical.

It also has the same cast, unlikely a certain other film which we won't mention here. Let's call this the last film in the series.

Here's a few things I love about the sequel.

CAIN
Jesus... had days like these.

If you're gonna top Clarence Boddicker, you're gonna need one hell of a villain.

Here you go:

Cain knows exactly what he's up against, and prepares accordingly.

He practically wins, if not for Robocop's subsequent repair.

Which brings me to the funniest point of the movie...

The Reprogramming

Isn't this a school day?

After Cain wrecks Robocop's proverbial shit, OCP decides to repair Robocop... and make him more, shall we say, palatable.

With a few hundred more prime directives.

This is basically a total disaster and turns Robocop into a walking infomercial.
The posted speed limit is 35.
Thank you for not smoking.

The glorious commercials.

MAGNAVOLT.
The final word in auto security.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMtqRir7dco
(Staring Daniel Clamp himself.)

Last but not least...
Robocop... 2.

Wait, wrong one.

What the hell is that?

It's no ED-209, but it sure takes Robocop a lot longer to bring this piece of work down. (Hilarious stop motion animation aside, I think it's a pretty cool design.)

So yeah, some of many reasons why I enjoy Robocop 2. Hopefully someone else does as well.

Dee Dah Dave · Apr 30, 2017

Same tone?

Nah, it was pure cheese.

nicanica · Apr 30, 2017

Who needed to defend Robocop 2?

Movie is awesome.

"What about Cain?"
"Fuck em"

Edit: When I was growing up, this scene was nightmare fuel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCT9eMM0cXc

Draft · Apr 30, 2017

Robocop 2 is like Predator 2 in that while inferior to the first movie in basically every way it still manages to be a lot of fun and not just a cheap, forgettable cash-in.

cj_iwakura · Apr 30, 2017

Dee Dah Dave said:
Same tone?

Nah, it was pure cheese.

...is that a bad thing?

Syder · Apr 30, 2017

I enjoyed RoboCop 2 as much as the first film as a kid but I recognise it's shortcomings now. It's not really close to the original movie.

Night.Ninja · Apr 30, 2017

Is that the one with the brain inside the brain of a bad guy ?

darkwing-buck · Apr 30, 2017

No where near as good as the original...BUT it's a damn good action movie.

Loads of fun.

ZorroMcNube · Apr 30, 2017

Robocop 2 is a fucking awesome trainwreck of a film and I love it.

The original is clearly the superior film, though.

cj_iwakura · Apr 30, 2017

Night.Ninja said:
Is that the one with the brain inside the brain of a bad guy ?

Yep, they decide to use the brain of a drug addict and control it with drugs. Great idea.

ElRenoRaven · Apr 30, 2017

Hey Hey Hey. RoboCop 2 was awesome. Yea it wasn't as good as the first but it was damn good. Now the 3rd even though it's hot trash I still love it too. But yea I've never heard anyone hate on RoboCop 2.

Garmonbozia · Apr 30, 2017

It's a fun movie, just not as memorable as the original.

I love this scene though:

I never had the guts to watch Robocop 3

Jeffolation · Apr 30, 2017

I didn't need that child drug lord or whatever the hell that was.

jett · Apr 30, 2017

It's garbage, OP.

cj_iwakura · Apr 30, 2017

Garmonbozia said:
It's a fun movie, just not as memorable as the original.

I love this scene though:

I never had the guts to watch Robocop 3

I love how fast he nopes out in the background.

Dee Dah Dave · Apr 30, 2017

cj_iwakura said:
...is that a bad thing?

No not necessarily, dumb films can be fun too. But it's nothing like the the first movie as you claimed, imo.

super-famicom · Apr 30, 2017

RoboCop 2: Better than RoboCop 3

VeryGooster · Apr 30, 2017

ZorroMcNube said:
Robocop 2 is a fucking awesome trainwreck of a film and I love it.

The original is clearly the superior film, though.

This is like the perfect description for RoboCop 2.

I love how cheesy dumb the arcade scene is.

Sgt. Kabukiman · Apr 30, 2017

It was one of my favorite action films as a kid.
Now? It's not that great and kinda boring at times and it's obviously inferior compared to the first one but it's still a relatively fun movie with some ballsy ideas and creative sequences. The opening is hilarious and I love the asshole kid.

Dirtyshubb · Apr 30, 2017

While nothing will beat the original, I love 2 almost as much and think it's a lot smarter than many give it credit.

I always felt that while the first was solely about corporate greed and the dangers it presents when a society is basically run by one, the second was more about the upcoming pg-ification of action movies. The new directives were actually designed by committee and completely nullified what made robocop work in his role which mirrors what we have seen from many sequels that ditched what made them work to chase that family friendly image.

*edit Hell look at robocop 3, it feels like 2 was predicting its own follow up.

cj_iwakura · Apr 30, 2017

Gooster said:
This is like the perfect description for RoboCop 2.

I love how cheesy dumb the arcade scene is.

That Data East love, too.
(They made the amazing arcade game based on the first film.)

Wow, I think literally every game there is by DE.

karasu · Apr 30, 2017

It was trash! I watched it yesterday when absolutely craving for sci-fi and I couldn't even finish it.

ElRenoRaven · Apr 30, 2017

Garmonbozia said:
It's a fun movie, just not as memorable as the original.

I love this scene though:

I never had the guts to watch Robocop 3

As a fan I'll even admit 3 was trash. But you can still find some fun in it. They just made it a point to shit it out and make it kid friendly so it loses it's edge. It's so goofy though you can't help but like it a bit. I mean hell you have RoboCop taking on Robot Ninjas and using a Jetpack. Then you had the scene where the kid reprogrammed the ED 209 to be loyal as a puppy. So there is some fun to be had. But you have to go into it expecting a bad movie. It would be good for a MST3K style watch.

VeryGooster · Apr 30, 2017

Useless trivia: the kid bad guy is Littlefoot from Land Before Time

cj_iwakura · Apr 30, 2017

Gooster said:
Useless trivia: the kid bad guy is Littlefoot from Land Before Time

They make no attempt to redeem or defend him either, he's evil from start to finish.

Vic_Viper · Apr 30, 2017

If you liked Robocop 2 but thought it was lacking something, checkout Frank Miller's script for the original Robocop 2! There's a comic adaptation for it as well which is pretty neat.

jett · Apr 30, 2017

karasu said:
It was trash! I watched it yesterday when absolutely craving for sci-fi and I couldn't even finish it.

Finally someone making sense in this thread.

Last time I watched it was I think a few years ago, first time since childhood. Among other things, I was surprised to see how bloodless it was compared to the first one. Honestly though it's just a real fucking bore. I'm surprised to see so much love for it here.

Massive Duck. C.M. · Apr 30, 2017

Lol "avoid Orion meetings"

The Bookerman · Apr 30, 2017

There's no redemption in robocop 3.
Despite the wackyness, I like Robocop 2.

The Hamburglar · Apr 30, 2017

Great film.

Can't shoot a kid, can ya.

Dirtyshubb · Apr 30, 2017

cj_iwakura said:
They make no attempt to redeem or defend him either, he's evil from start to finish.

That's not really true, the scene where cain forces him to watch mcmurphy's death is to show how the kid didn't have a choice in how he was brought up and due to his surroundings what chance did he have.

They avoid the easy turn around that some movies would do by killing him before he had the chance.

Jedi2016 · Apr 30, 2017

Well, as long as you're not trying to defend Robocop 3, I guess that's okay.

cj_iwakura · Apr 30, 2017

Dirtyshubb said:
That's not really true, the scene where cain forces him to watch mcmurphy's death is to show how the kid didn't have a choice in how he was brought up and due to his surroundings what chance did he have.

They avoid the easy turn around that some movies would do by killing him before he had the chance.

True, but he still does some completely horrible things even when left to his own devices and he thinks Cain's dead.

Paracelsus · May 1, 2017

2 was okay, the kid was over the top but still within reason (he was a punk, but if you consider he was molded by a legitimately insane maniac you could believe he was able to think so maliciously), except for the woman following his orders just to get her fix of nuke, why wouldn't she kick the shit out of him and get control.

3 on the other hand was abominable, one of the times I got second hand embarrassment from an action movie, the girl remote controlling all of those cyborgs with a lame ass laptop was...I don't know, T2 got flak for John Connor hacking an ATM, R3 deserves all the literal feces in the world.

cj_iwakura · May 1, 2017

I saw Robocop 3 the day it came out in theaters.

Pretty sure I walked out ten minutes later. I was embarrassed at myself for paying to watch it.

The One and Done · May 1, 2017

RC 2 was awesome

Volimar · May 1, 2017

super-famicom said:
RoboCop 2: Better than RoboCop 3

Really all that needs to be said. It's still a fun watch though.

Cormano · May 1, 2017

nicanica said:
Who needed to defend Robocop 2?

Exactly my thoughts.

Now id like to see someone to defend Robocop 3

AlexBasch · May 1, 2017

Didn't Peter Weller hated doing this film or am I remembering wrong?

cj_iwakura · May 1, 2017

AlexBasch said:
Didn't Peter Weller hated doing this film or am I remembering wrong?

I know he refused to do 3... never heard of him hating 2.

Alter_Fridge · May 1, 2017

Robo 2 was body horror, no doubt about it

SymbiantXenos · May 1, 2017

Violin Guy is an all time great.

CarpeDeezNutz · May 1, 2017

It's a good one too imo I liked that kid's briefcase gun.

old manatee · May 1, 2017

RoboCop is a 10, and RoboCop 2 is an 8.

sans_pants · May 1, 2017

kid actor in 2 was also great

i saw 3 in theaters as a kid, i enjoyed it at the time sadly

Fancyarcher · May 1, 2017

It's enjoyable, if not a wee bit too much over the top with its violence. It's sorta like Gremlins 2 only not as clever in that it's mocking the very idea of a sequel if you really think about it. Robocop Vs. Robocaine is actually an awesome action set-piece too.

cj_iwakura said:
They make no attempt to redeem or defend him either, he's evil from start to finish.

They try to make you feel sorry for his demise though. It's one of the things I don't really like about the film.

siddx · May 1, 2017

Prefer it to part 1. It's likely a nostalgia thing as it left a far heavier impact on me as kid, with Cain being absolutely terrifying and the scene with the torture legit fucking with my nine year old mind. Objectively part 1 is likely far superior, but part 2 will always be my favorite.

Alter_Fridge · May 1, 2017

siddx said:
Prefer it to part 1. It's likely a nostalgia thing as it left a far heavier impact on me as kid, with Cain being absolutely terrifying and the scene with the torture legit fucking with my nine year old mind. Objectively part 1 is likely far superior, but part 2 will always be my favorite.

Haha I was 9 too

But the torture/massacre in Robo 1 was also supremely scarring

Alter_Fridge · May 1, 2017

sans_pants said:
kid actor in 2 was also great

i saw 3 in theaters as a kid, i enjoyed it at the time sadly

MomoPufflet · May 1, 2017

cj_iwakura said:

All this time Robocop has been ignoring the critical smile directive.

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