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This week it’s a return to No1 for ‘Wii Fit’ (+32%) having lost out last week to ‘Lego Indiana Jones’.
THQ’s ‘Wall-E’ climbs 12% over last week but has to settle for No2 for a second successive week. ‘Mario Kart Wii’ climbs 23% to claim No3 and Activision Blizzard climb 7 places to No4 for the first full sales week of DS ‘Guitar Hero: On Tour’ (+46%). ‘Lego Indiana Jones’ drops from No1 to No5 (-15%) and a notable re-entry to the Top 10 is that perennial favourite ‘Dr Kawashima’s Brain Training’ up 7 places to No9 (+14%).

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Raist said:

Yes, I know, it's only Sunday so nothing much to see here. I'll probably be off tomorrow by the time the UK charts are released, so at least the thread will be there.
In the meantime, enjoy the NL charts and next week's releases

Spoiler

I know, no one cares

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Gabyskra said:

Look at how short the Wii lead is in NL. doicare, enlighten us!

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Phife Dawg said:

I'm really surprised that GH:OT actually charts. I know it's on DS and everything but seeing that GH isn't hugely popular in Europe it's quite strange.

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milanbaros said:

Next week should see a boost for PS3 software with all the platinum releases.

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cjelly said:

Haven't all of the Platinum games been quite cheap for a while now, anyway?

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Neomoto said:

I don't know if there was marketing for On Tour, I haven't seen it at least.

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PS3
*Uncharted: Drakes Fortune Platinum

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Raist said:

I've seen a shitload of ads for it on TV (France)

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Neomoto said:

The N-domination in the Netherlands is strong. It's like some bizarro world because this would have been impossible just 2 years or so ago. Hell, retailers gave Nintendo always so little shelf-space it would make you sad just looking at it. They even grouped GBA and DS together showing only the backside in some retailers when the DS was in it's first year (even PSP got more shelfspace than both GBA and DS combined), Gamecube games section was laughable compared to PS2 and PC (maybe even Xbox). Of course, it couldn't be more different nowadays.

Depending on how you consider Mario & Sonic (first or 3rd party), Nintendo got 8 out of 9 games in the top 10 alone, and ironicly they helped push the Guitar Hero brand by paying for Guitar Hero III marketing, and helping Activision with the Guitar add-on strap (design, manufacturing). I don't know if there was marketing for On Tour, I haven't seen it at least.

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Raist said:

I've seen a shitload of ads for it on TV (France)

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Raist said:

I've seen a shitload of ads for it on TV (France)

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_Alkaline_ said:

Yeah, it's insane. Living in Australia I've seen it for my own eyes. Many of this board who hail from America or Japan wouldn't know just how bad, and I mean bad, the Gamecube did in Europe/Australia.

I mean, only months after the console launched, some retailers wouldn't even stock Gamecube games. Go into a games store and many times you would actually have a hard time finding any recent Gamecube games. Sometimes you wouldn't find any at all.

It's truly incredible how things have changed since then. The transformation of Nintendo in the public eye has been amazing. They've gone from an unknown, unliked quantity to the freshest and most popular company in the industry.

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_Alkaline_ said:

Yeah, it's insane. Living in Australia I've seen it for my own eyes. Many of this board who hail from America or Japan wouldn't know just how bad, and I mean bad, the Gamecube did in Europe/Australia.

I mean, only months after the console launched, some retailers wouldn't even stock Gamecube games. Go into a games store and many times you would actually have a hard time finding any recent Gamecube games. Sometimes you wouldn't find any at all.

It's truly incredible how things have changed since then. The transformation of Nintendo in the public eye has been amazing. They've gone from an unknown, unliked quantity to the freshest and most popular company in the industry.

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_Alkaline_ said:

It's truly incredible how things have changed since then. The transformation of Nintendo in the public eye has been amazing. They've gone from an unknown, unliked quantity to the freshest and most popular company in the industry.

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cjelly said:

Haven't all of the Platinum games been quite cheap for a while now, anyway?

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°°ToMmY°° said:

same here (italy), it was marketed as hell.

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Bearillusion said:

Yet the Gamecube had better games.

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test_account said:

I do agree with you that there has been an incredible change for Nintendo lately, but when you said "unknown", do you mean that Nintendo as a company was unknow to the public i.e 5 years ago when the GC, PS2 and Xbox was the lead consoles?

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Phife Dawg said:

I didn't see any ads in Germany.

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Neomoto said:

The N-domination in the Netherlands is strong. It's like some bizarro world because this would have been impossible just 2 years or so ago. Hell, retailers gave Nintendo always so little shelf-space it would make you sad just looking at it. They even grouped GBA and DS together showing only the backside in some retailers when the DS was in it's first year (even PSP got more shelfspace than both GBA and DS combined), Gamecube games section was laughable compared to PS2 and PC (maybe even Xbox). Of course, it couldn't be more different nowadays.

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_Alkaline_ said:

Yeah. There was a distinct difference between the public image of Nintendo during the Gamecube era compared to previous generations. Few (at least, comparatively to the PS2/Xbox) in the mass audience knew of Nintendo or Gamecube during this time, and for a great portion of those who did, saw it only to be a 'kiddy' machine designed solely for children.

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Sadist said:

This is true. It's incredible what happened here. If you look at the stores nowadays, the shelfspace for both DS and Wii are still growing. They also get the prominent placing in stores. Nintendo just came back out of nowhere.

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test_account said:

Ok, then i understood you right I do agree with what you said in what i just quoted you on, but i do not think that Nintendo as a company was unknown to the general public even during the Gamecube era though. With "unknown" i mean that if you asked random people on the streets what Nintendo was and they answered that they didnt know what Nintendo was.

Sure, Gamecube was exactly the most popular and known console at that time, but Nintendo has always been strong on the handheld side and Nintendo do have a rather large history within the videogame industry. I do think people in general knew or had heard of Nintendo in the Gamecube era. Of course this is just assumtions from my side, and there are probably some people who had never heard of Nintendo before the Wii and the DS was released, but i would be very suprised of people in general i.e 5 years ago had never heard of Nintendo before the Wii and the DS was released. And with "people in general" i think mostly in the areas/countries worldwide were gaming has been popular and/or relatively popular.

I just had to say what i thought about this case That being said, i do agree that Nintendo is probably known by many more people in general now than before

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Bearillusion said:

Yet the Gamecube had better games.

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_Alkaline_ said:

Nintendo just had a complete lack of presence in the console market during the Gamecube generation. You would not believe how many didn't even know about the Gamecube. And many of those who did simply looked at it in disdain. Nintendo's public imagine, for home consoles anyway (their handhelds didn't suffer the same fate) was shot.

It's this what makes their turnaround so amazing. It's happened so quickly too.

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test_account said:

When it comes to the Gamecube only i do agree with you, but when it comes to Nintendo in general as a company (as you said earlier), i do not think the general public had no idea what Nintendo was

But as i said earlier, this is just assumptions from my side, but i would be very surpised if the general public had never heard of Nintendo before based on that their handheld systems have been pretty popular (i guess they have been pretty popular pretty much worldwide atleast) and that Nintendo has a rather large history in the video game industry.

But if you were thinking of the console market only, then i agree with you that the general public probably didnt known what the Gamecube was.

Ye, it happend very quickly indeed

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Bearillusion said:

Yet the Gamecube had better games.

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_Alkaline_ said:

When I said "unknown quantity", I was saying that some in Europe/Australia didn't even know Nintendo had a console out during last generation, let alone the many that didn't have any interest in it. I even know some people who, during last generation, thought Nintendo stopped making consoles after the N64. That's how pathetic the Gamecube's presence and image was. They knew Nintendo was still alive (the GBA made sure of that) but in the grand scheme of things, few had any interest in the Gamecube.

I think we're on the same page of thinking here though.

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test_account said:

I do agree with you that there has been an incredible change for Nintendo lately, but when you said "unknown", do you mean that Nintendo as a company was unknow to the public i.e 5 years ago when the GC, PS2 and Xbox was the lead consoles?

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BishopLamont said:

Put it this way, I grew up playing the NES and SNES, SMB was my first videogame love. I completely skipped the N64 and GC for a PS1 and PS2. The fact that I hardly even knew about the N64 or GC speaks volumes.

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°°ToMmY°° said:

i bought a new gamecube for 49 euro during 2004.

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SovanJedi said:

I bet you £100 that when the next Nintendo console comes out there will be people saying how the Wii's library of games was great and it was underrated too. Same with PS3>PS4, and same with Xbox360>Xbox whatever. And the next generation after that, and the next generation after that. EVERY SINGLE GENERATION is just full of people saying how the one before was "so much better", when in fact there were the exact same complaints made about that too.

If all this bemoaning was accumulative you'd think that current generation games consoles were shoving red hot needles into our eyes and pumping out Satanic brainwashing through the surround sound speakers.

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test_account said:

Thats pretty cheap! How did you get it so cheap, was it a sale or something?

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slaughterking said:

There are many ads in Germany, though.

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Bearillusion said:

I disagree. I've been gaming since the late 70's and I don't look back to a golden age of gaming. Imo gaming has never been better than it is now.

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*Uncharted: Drakes Fortune Platinum

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Phife Dawg said:

I wouldn't debate that (don't watch TV 24/7). But I'm quite confident to say that if I haven't even seen one ad it wasn't really marketed to hell - that's all I was trying to say, not that there are no ads at all.

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test_account said:

Your story is almost exactly like mine Our first gaming console was a NES Action Set (including Super Mario Bros and Duck Hunt). I loved (and still do) Super Mario Bros, such a great game and i have so many great memories with that game! I really wanted a SNES when it came out, but i never got one as a kid, i even cried because of that hehe After this i bought a PSX and a PS2, i also skipped the Nintendo 64 and the Gamecube (although i bought a used Gamecube in 2005, but i have hardly used it :\). I did know about the N64 and the Gamecube though (or what do you mean with that you hardly knew about the N64 or the GC?), but unfortunately i didnt have too much interest in those 2 systems :\

But what i wanted to say earlier was that i dont think that people in general didnt know what Nintendo (the company and the word itself) was eventhough that the Gamecube wasnt exactly the most popular console around at the time. But i missunderstood what _Alkaline_ ment and he described to me what he ment so i understand what he mean now



Thats pretty cheap! How did you get it so cheap, was it a sale or something?

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°°ToMmY°° said:

i don't remeber exactly, it was christmas time (december 2003 if i recall, not 2004, but almost it). sad thing was that the only above-average game for GC they had was starfox adventures.

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BishopLamont said:

Yeah I actually did know about the N64, but I hardly knew of many good games for it, based on the fact that no one around me had one. I only ever remember 1 friend who had it, and we played Mario Kart and Golden Eye. I never knew anyone with a GC. I bought one used last year for $50 AU dollars with windwaker at cash converters. I payed for a brand new PS2 by comparison, even though it was a bit late into the generation. FFX was the game that made me want to buy a PS2, while the GC wasn't even existing let alone have a game that lured me. Anyways I'm getting a bit off topic here. Bottom line you really need to live in Australia to really understand how impressive Nintendo has been.

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test_account said:

Ah ok, its a pity that they didnt have more games, but 49 euro for a new Gamecube back then is a great price i must say, its probably maybe a great price even today Congratulations on getting it for that price!



Ah ok, i think i know what you mean, you knew about the Nintendo 64 and the Gamecube, but not too much about which games that was cool to play or not? If so, it was probably the same with me. I didnt have too much interest in the Nintendo 64 or the Gamecube so i didnt pay too much attention to which game that was cool to play or not.

I remember my cuzin had a N64, i played some Mario Kart 64 maybe a few times (i didnt visit him that often), i think that was cool My sister owned (she still owns it) a Gamecube. She bought the Mario Kart Double Dash Gamecube bundle, a Gamecube + the game Mario Kart Double Dash. I played that game alittle too, i think that was cool to play as well

50 AU dollars seems like a good price for a Gamecube + Windwaker, congratulations on getting that! I bought the PS2 about a year or 2 after its launch here where i live (in Europe). I got bundled with Gran Turismo 3 and This is Football 2002 (i think atleast).

Ok, i understand. I havnt been to Australia so i have no idea how the situation with the Gamecube was there, so i belive that the situation was pretty bad when people who lives in Australia says so I just wanted to say that i still thought that people knew what Nintendo was eventhough the Gamecube was doing it pretty poorly, but _Alkaline_ explained what he ment so i understood him It was just a missunderstanding from my side, sorry :\

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Bearillusion said:

Yet the Gamecube had better games.

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BishopLamont said:

Haha, you don't need to apologize, I'm not blaming/correcting you or anything, just giving my side of the story.

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Bearillusion said:

Yet the Gamecube had better games.

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Raist on GH:OT said:

I've seen a shitload of ads for it on TV (France)

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