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Winter-Spring 2014 Anime |OT3| People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time

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One Week Friends 2
I guess I'm starting to think about this too much, because the rules of the world are starting to break down for me. Like if she has fun in a class, but her classmates aren't necessarily her "friends", does she still remember what happened? What defines a friend that allows her brain to erase them from her memory?

Well, since she specifically mentions how she thought it was weird that she didn't recognize Hase at all, so I assume she remembers people as long as she doesn't get particularly close to them. I'm assuming it would be just having positive and friendly interactions that would trigger her forgetting them. That's probably why she's completely cold to everyone in class, and isn't even willing to help that one girl out in the first episode. Maybe she's gotten into trouble through things like that in the past, such as giving someone some minor help in class and then not remembering them later on.
 

Grzi

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Baby Steps - 02

This was pretty good, it's charming and relaxing and the romance aspect has the potential to be a cute distraction from the sports stuff (as long as it remains a smaller subplot), definitely enjoying this.
 

Narag

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Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: The Last Blitz of Zeon

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Always hard to judge a compilation movie after having watched what it's based upon due to knowledge of missing events but I feel confident enough to say this is really the way to go to experience 0083. A lot of fat has been trimmed to make this focus almost entirely on Kou, Nina, and Gato. I really do mean a lot too as 20 minutes in and it's already on episode 5 of OVA material, 45 minutes hits episode 9, mostly excising some extraneous fights, the more comedic bits, and the general support cast interaction. This isn't really a bad thing unless you want a Monsha fix either as everything feels much tighter throughout while highlighting the excellent visuals which is typically the only reason to bother with this anyhow.

I was checking out the OVA series alongside this to observe some changes and I think they're largely positive:

  • Opening 10-15 minutes is narrated by Nina to establish her role and the main conflict
  • Soundtrack generally seems better in a less is more sort of way, removing some music or picking a better track.
  • Kelly Layzner fight was removed entirely. His drunken viewing of Gato's message was moved up to before Kou returning to help fix the mobile armor. Scene presents Layzner as entirely more sympathetic, a pilot with his wings clipped finishing a final project rather than being a crackpot that gets himself killed. Cima and her crony never appear here so it appears as he's just trying to catch back up to Gato rather than doing a job for the Delaz fleet.
  • Less forced romance
  • Kou presented as slightly less bright eyed and incompetent.
  • Burning's character is nearly non-existent along with the associated drama which is unfortunate.
  • No awful la vie en rose subplot.
  • No awful "one year later..." bit.

Basically I'd always heard this was better than the OVAs and it was. That's not saying much though as 0083 will never be that good.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Well, since she specifically mentions how she thought it was weird that she didn't recognize Hase at all, so I assume she remembers people as long as she doesn't get particularly close to them. I'm assuming it would be just having positive and friendly interactions that would trigger her forgetting them. That's probably why she's completely cold to everyone in class, and isn't even willing to help that one girl out in the first episode. Maybe she's gotten into trouble through things like that in the past, such as giving someone some minor help in class and then not remembering them later on.
So platitudes and general sociability is fine, but anything other than that isn't? Why does she have a relationship with her mother then? Unless she's not friends with her mom!
(Gotta stop thinking too much about this...)
 
So platitudes and general sociability is fine, but anything other than that isn't? Why does she have a relationship with her mother then? Unless she's not friends with her mom!
(Gotta stop thinking too much about this...)

She specifically said in the first episode that her memories of her family weren't lost, just of people outside her family.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
She specifically said in the first episode that her memories of her family weren't lost, just of people outside her family.
Yes, but why? What chemical processes in her brain allow her to differentiate one from the other? What if she gets married? Does her new husband (or partner, because 21st century), qualify for family status and she can remember them then? Or since they aren't biologically related, does she forget them after a week?
 
Yes, but why? What chemical processes in her brain allow her to differentiate one from the other? What if she gets married? Does her new husband (or partner, because 21st century), qualify for family status and she can remember them then? Or since they aren't biologically related, does she forget them after a week?

Well, that we don't know since they haven't really explained anything. Maybe it's just a matter of the fact that she lives with them, or it could be that only people she's met after whenever this problem started (assuming it only developed at some point in her life), so her family aren't effected by it.
 

Jex

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Haikyuuuuu 2
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#malegaze #1reasonwhy #checkyourprivilege #creepshots

The worst part of this is that the butt shot doesn't even make sense since the characters don't see her from behind when they first meet her. So it's literally a male gaze shot for the audience. (Yet, this show is clearly for girls who want boys to fuck each other's brain's out, so I don't even know who that serves. Maybe it's like she's a reverse-harem protagonist?)
Yeah, I was wondering if anyone was going to comment on that. It was pretty egregious.
 

Andrew J.

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FMP The Second Raid 11

Gates just implied he might want to rape Yu Lan's corpse. This is in no way shocking or out of character for him.

I'm not sure how much Sousuke understands what's going on with this lookalike, and I don't really think I want to know.

Sousuke really needs to hurry up and have an epiphany about what he should do. There's only two episodes left, after all!
 
Yes, but why? What chemical processes in her brain allow her to differentiate one from the other? What if she gets married? Does her new husband (or partner, because 21st century), qualify for family status and she can remember them then? Or since they aren't biologically related, does she forget them after a week?

That's why amnesia is such a convenient plot device, it can do any of those if the writer wants it to!
 

Gazoinks

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Well, that we don't know since they haven't really explained anything. Maybe it's just a matter of the fact that she lives with them, or it could be that only people she's met after whenever this problem started (assuming it only developed at some point in her life), so her family aren't effected by it.

Every Sunday night little space aliens enter her ears and chisel out specific memories.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Well, that we don't know since they haven't really explained anything. Maybe it's just a matter of the fact that she lives with them, or it could be that only people she's met after whenever this problem started (assuming it only developed at some point in her life), so her family aren't effected by it.
Here's hoping that there's a "rational" explanation for all of this. Especially for why she didn't bother recording her thoughts before this episode. I'm going to hope that this is all psychological and she's just coping with some trauma, rather than it being some biological impairment ala Ghost Banri.

Yeah, I was wondering if anyone was going to comment on that. It was pretty egregious.
It was literally tits and ass.

That's why amnesia is such a convenient plot device, it can do any of those if the writer wants it to!
Sure, and I was fine with it in the first episode. lol
I think I just need some clear rules for how this stuff works, mostly so that I can feel confident that it isn't being made up as they go along.
 

Jex

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Haikyuuuuu 2

Having already watched OoFuri, I think I'm out. I suppose the show itself isn't bad per se, but it's your sportsy-ass sports show, and I don't think I care enough about volleyball to sit through the OoFuri arc again.
Out of all the sport shows this season the one I'm most interested in is Ping Pong because neither of two main characters expressed a need or desire to engage in a training montage to be the best, or expressed any grand, shounen-esque dreams. They also didn't seem particularly "likeable" either, in the traditional sense. It just felt more...authentic and less shonen sports series. Even though it clearly contains the usual sports tropes.
 
Here's hoping that there's a "rational" explanation for all of this. Especially for why she didn't bother recording her thoughts before this episode. I'm going to hope that this is all psychological and she's just coping with some trauma, rather than it being some biological impairment ala Ghost Banri.

I've been assuming it was trauma related, but I guess that will all be revealed eventually (I hope).

As far as why she never thought about it before, maybe she just never had anyone like Hase who really wanted to go that extra step before and keep trying week after week. If she's coping with some trauma, the idea of trying to record memories might also have never occurred to her because some part of her subconscious thought she deserved to keep losing her happy memories. Or maybe she has tried this before, but then the other person gave up on trying to be friends with her, so she stopped writing her thoughts down and thus forgot it all the next week.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Out of all the sport shows this season the one I'm most interested in is Ping Pong because neither of two main characters expressed a need or desire to engage in a training montage to be the best, or expressed any grand, shounen-esque dreams. They also didn't seem particularly "likeable" either, in the traditional sense. It just felt more...authentic and less shonen sports series. Even though it clearly contains the usual sports tropes.
Yeah, for whatever reason Ping Pong feels much more grounded even if, on paper, it seems equally formulaic. I hope I'm not being tricked by the Mandarin/Yuasa-ness of the show though. Like if the Chinese dude was speaking Japanese and the show looked like Haikyuu, would I still be as impressed by it? I have no idea.

I've been assuming it was trauma related, but I guess that will all be revealed eventually (I hope).

As far as why she never thought about it before, maybe she just never had anyone like Hase who really wanted to go that extra step before and keep trying week after week. If she's coping with some trauma, the idea of trying to record memories might also have never occurred to her because some part of her subconscious thought she deserved to keep losing her happy memories. Or maybe she has tried this before, but then the other person gave up on trying to be friends with her, so she stopped writing her thoughts down and thus forgot it all the next week.
Well, I'm assuming she's seeing a healthcare professional of some sort. I mean, unless Japan also has a terrible Obama-care website that no one can sign in on. lol
 

Jex

Member
That's not a high enough number to merit such an incredulous reaction. I'm watching 6 current shows myself, and I'm skipping several that seem pretty popular here.

It just seemed they were all being watched on the same day, which seems like quite a marathon!
 

Kurita

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Haikyuu!! 2

Great adaptation continues to be great. Tanaka's evil laugh and scary faces are perfect, he's the GOAT. The animation is still solid, let's hope that the whole season can keep this relative level of quality. Some nice musics in this episode, I really liked the one that was on when they discussed the details of the match.
 
If you think about it, it has already easily done more in 11 episodes than any other Precure. Simply putting out more of what it's been doing leaves us with a consistently enjoyable show in every episode, and it hasn't even really developed the plot threads it has started yet, something the director has shown himself perfectly capable of.

To me, it's no longer about how high this show can go in the Precure rankings, but how high it can go among all magical girl shows.
I have to admit It certainly has the potential to go up in a magical girl show list.

Better than Sailor Moon and PGSM confirmed.
NOt at this level yet , but it could be . AT least one thing for sure this precure season clearly has the potential to do a lot.
 

Jex

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Yeah, for whatever reason Ping Pong feels much more grounded even if, on paper, it seems equally formulaic. I hope I'm not being tricked by the Mandarin/Yuasa-ness of the show though. Like if the Chinese dude was speaking Japanese and the show looked like Haikyuu, would I still be as impressed by it? I have no idea.

I don't think that's really a viable question to hold because, as anime is a visual medium, it's pretty clear that the way the story is told via the visuals is hugely important and so if the staff making the show were different of course the show itself would be very different. Still, the actual writing itself is nothing to do with Yuasa but the original author of the manga, Matsumoto and the original manga was not written to be an endless shounen sport series.
 
Out of all the sport shows this season the one I'm most interested in is Ping Pong because neither of two main characters expressed a need or desire to engage in a training montage to be the best, or expressed any grand, shounen-esque dreams. They also didn't seem particularly "likeable" either, in the traditional sense. It just felt more...authentic and less shonen sports series. Even though it clearly contains the usual sports tropes.

Hmm? But I would think most of the real life players in any sport would want to be the best and if they need training they would train, I don't see two guys that don't want to train being more authentic than people that want to be the best, just different from the norm.
 

Pokemon XY Special: The Strongest Mega Evolution 1

Ash? Amazing?

Riiiiiiiiiight

So I'm going to expect Alan to face off against him sometime in the future? Works for me. Actually liked Alan and wouldn't mind if he pops up as the rival.

Glad to see Blastoise defeat Charizard. Was sick and tired of seeing Blastoise job to that lizard just to show how amazing it is.

OG water starter does not deserve that disrespect.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Your optimism is downright inspiring.
Anime is great! Really!

I don't think that's really a viable question to hold because, as anime is a visual medium, it's pretty clear that the way the story is told via the visuals is hugely important and so if the staff making the show were different of course the show itself would be very different. Still, the actual writing itself is nothing to do with Yuasa but the original author of the manga, Matsumoto and the original manga was not written to be an endless shounen sport series.
Yeah, that's probably true. I hope the strength of the source material holds true next week anyway.

NOt at this level yet , but it could be . AT least one thing for sure this precure season clearly has the potential to do a lot.
Man... well, is it still only two Precures, or is there a full team? I found I vastly preferred Smile (and even Doki) because they just had the crew assembled right off the bat.
 

cereal_killerxx

Junior Member
I looked at the Spring list... nothing looked good to me. Maybe I'm just getting old. What would you guys say are the two best shows this season so far?

Super excited for SAO S2 in the summer though!
 
Baby Steps 2

lol maybe reading the manga wasn't the best thing to do right when the show started airing as now I don't really feel like watching the earlier episodes since it's so far behind and weekly. Plus waifu flirting also takes a bit.

But at least I saw this in crunchyroll comments:

"So after watching the first episode last week, I went and read the _entire_ 207 (now 208) chapters of Baby Steps. I am so psyched to watch the animation of this series. So much more satisfying than Prince of Tennis ever was, honestly. "

"yeah i did too i couldn't hold myself back I cant wait to see everyone's reaction to next weeks episode. "

"lmfao ME TOO !!!!!!!! "

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MAH BROS
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Man... well, is it still only two Precures, or is there a full team? I found I vastly preferred Smile (and even Doki) because they just had the crew assembled right off the bat.
...and then it didn't do anything with them.

Anyway, as for ep 11 there are 3 with 1 outer.
 
Here's hoping that there's a "rational" explanation for all of this. Especially for why she didn't bother recording her thoughts before this episode. I'm going to hope that this is all psychological and she's just coping with some trauma, rather than it being some biological impairment ala Ghost Banri.
The way she reacted when Hase suggested it tells me she has tried it before in the past and it didn't work.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
...and then it didn't do anything with them.

Anyway, as for ep 11 there are 3 with 1 outer.
I still think the Smile cast is great. :(

The way she reacted when Hase suggested it tells me she has tried it before in the past and it didn't work.
It all seems to be novel to her though. And again, you'd think she'd have some kind of therapist or psychologist or someone taking notes about her life anyway.
 

Tenumi

Banned
Soul Eater NOT: 01

Well, that was a cute first episode. Interesting to watch a series starring new characters in a world I already am accustomed to. Should be a fun season.
 

Andrew J.

Member
FMP The Second Raid 12

Chidori is best girl. I'd say she's even too good for Sousuke, but that's being uncharitable to him and all the psychological trauma he has to deal with.

I thought I'd read that Gauron comes back again, but it took so long I thought I'd misremembered.

That even Gauron thinks Gates is crazy pretty much tells you all you need to know.

Tessa's a pretty cool girl too, though.

Is Gauron really dead this time? That seemed pretty definitive, but still...
 

Jex

Member
Hmm? But I would think most of the real life players in any sport would want to be the best and if they need training they would train, I don't see two guys that don't want to train being more authentic than people that want to be the best, just different from the norm.

Well, funnily enough, Smile doesn't seem to be particularly competitive, although Peco obviously is.

But that's not really my point, of course people who play a particular sport seriously will need to train and they need to have ambition to want to do better. But formula dictates that your sports shounen series must start in the first episode with a character who has Big Dreams (usually complete with vision of them competing in a major, end of series event in a large venue) but little actual skill in their chosen field. You'll also notice that our lead is plucky and likeable with a a good heart and lots of enthusiasm to do better, they display great sporstmanship as well, but they're probably not that bright. Through Hard Work and Training Montages they will overcome their early deficiencies and surprise other players in said sport because, even though they're merely a novice, they some how have some Talent that sets them apart from the rest. They'll then engage in a big First Test of their talent that they might win or lose but it doesn't matter because they've done enough to impress the Coach/Captain and get them into the Team. Their teammates will be mostly likeable, although their may still be doubted they have to win over. They'll probably have also earned a Rival whose more experienced at the sport but can see their Raw Talent. From then on it's off to the races as they find challenges to over come and best, although they'll probably Lose Big early on to allow us to see that they aren't completely invincible. This is pretty much how your first few episodes are supposed to go. It's all extremely generic.

Now, in Ping Pong, we apparently have two main characters, which is already a little weird. Smile is aloof and uncaring, with no apparent desire to play competitively. Peco is very competitive, but he doesn't seem to take the sport too seriously and he even plays for cash against weaker players and has no sense of sportsmanship. He and Smile have a weird relationship where they seem to be friends who share no affection for one another, except that Smile is secretly losing to Peco so as not to damage Peco's pride. Their relationship is fairly complicated and yet still rather understated. More over, both Peco and Smile are both pretty good at Ping Pong already and so there's no room for the traditional novice to pro arc that nearly all spots shows are based around.

Fundamentally, the focus on the show is actually on the characters and how they interact rather than solely on the sport itself. In every other show the characters usually just exist to play the sport OR to find a girl in their spare time.
 
Man... well, is it still only two Precures, or is there a full team? I found I vastly preferred Smile (and even Doki) because they just had the crew assembled right off the bat.

Assembling a full team right off the bat would be the best way in order to deal with doing things with Cures. However, even with that, you must do something with them, which... Smile didn't really do. Yes! 5 did at least, so the concept can still happen.
 

survivor

Banned
I don't think that's really a viable question to hold because, as anime is a visual medium, it's pretty clear that the way the story is told via the visuals is hugely important and so if the staff making the show were different of course the show itself would be very different. Still, the actual writing itself is nothing to do with Yuasa but the original author of the manga, Matsumoto and the original manga was not written to be an endless shounen sport series.

In fact, Matsumoto wanted to even quit writing the manga after 3 volumes, but then he met Moebius and got inspired to continue drawing the last 2 volumes.
 
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