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Exactly.But the games aren't some bonus you get with the service. They ARE the service...
Exactly.But the games aren't some bonus you get with the service. They ARE the service...
It's an odd situation, because you had to have a metacritic of 75 (I think that was the number?) to get on PS+ last generation, but now as they've been day one indie games, we get them announced before the press rate them, so they don't have MC ratings. Knack would have been below par by Sony's rules, but presumably now they don't mind.
Personally, I'd like to see Knack on the service. Seems like the obvious first full priced retail game to me.
That doesn't seem right to me though, because while the apple tree was officially free, it played into the complete value proposition of the deal they gave me, in my eyes, that tree was part of the package. Oh man, that's the other thing I forgot to tell you, they delayed my apple tree, I'd call and call and they'd keep telling me I'd hear something soon or whatever, took eleven months before they sent it. Crazy.That sucks man. My apple tree produces apples every month, and the cost of upkeep is pretty miniscule compared to the price I'd pay for apples at the store. If you want more apples, I'd suggest buying a full priced tree.
Most people aren't saying this.For those complaining, you dont have to buy the game. Heck, you dont even have to download the free "demo". Unsubscribe from PS+ if that will right the horrendous wrong committed by sony. How dare they give out free content.
Not enough for me. I'll probably just buy the full game, but I guess it's still a good way for me to know whether I'll enjoy the game or not!
No, they don't care about the downgrade of this PS+ version. Not that they don't care about people complaining. They care about people complaining because instead of this thread being about what we are getting, it's turned almost completely into people bitching that it's not enough.Misplaced expectations ... the studio said this:
Are you even reading that? Are you? Because I feel everybody that says "they never said that" is just skipping over the large amount of articles written a few months ago when it was announced.
How else am I supposed to interpret that?
They care enough to come in and bitch about the people disappointed. How is that any worse than us expressing our disappointment? These threads usually turn into a circlejerk of negativity anyway .. and I try to avoid them. I failed at that today.
Hey, if that's true I'll take back what I've said. But I don't think it is. Especially if the demo is a 'good majority' of the game making that original statement true it means the game won't have much content in general. I can't imagine 5 cars being 'just a few less' than the retail release.
If you gave that much of a shit about the delay and feel so betrayed then don't download the PS+ version or buy the full title.That doesn't seem right to me though, because while the apple tree was officially free, it played into the complete value proposition of the deal they gave me, in my eyes, that tree was part of the package. Oh man, that's the other thing I forgot to tell you, they delayed my apple tree, I'd call and call and they'd keep telling me I'd hear something soon or whatever, took eleven months before they sent it. Crazy.
Most people aren't saying this.
Feel like mild disappointment isn't unreasonable. That's about it tho.
I feel this stance is more unreasonable tbh. I mean, those things were said.Yes, but they're acting like entitled children if you ask me. Its free, just take whats given instead of playing the "but they said this x amount of time ago" game. Its not mild at all.
Which car game demo has ever had 5 tracks and 10 cars in the past?
That sounds like a demo to me.
No, they don't care about the downgrade of this PS+ version. Not that they don't care about people complaining. They care about people complaining because instead of this thread being about what we are getting, it's turned almost completely into people bitching that it's not enough.
If you gave that much of a shit about the delay and feel so betrayed then don't download the PS+ version or buy the full title.
I feel this stance is more unreasonable tbh. I mean, those things were said.
For those complaining, you dont have to buy the game. Heck, you dont even have to download the free "demo". Unsubscribe from PS+ if that will right the horrendous wrong committed by sony. How dare they give out free content.
Come on. It's not really what they said
It's not a big deal tho.
No but they probably shouldn't be giving demos in place of full games either.
Why do you say that?Don't expect too much from this game guys.
I feel this stance is more unreasonable tbh. I mean, those things were said.
That doesn't seem right to me though, because while the apple tree was officially free, it played into the complete value proposition of the deal they gave me, in my eyes, that tree was part of the package. Oh man, that's the other thing I forgot to tell you, they delayed my apple tree, I'd call and call and they'd keep telling me I'd hear something soon or whatever, took eleven months before they sent it. Crazy.
Its pretty reasonable when we have people here dafaulting to calling it a demo just because they werent given the full game. My experiences of demos were 1 track and 2-3 cars if lucky. Its not a demo, but its not the full game which im pretty sure was mentioned when the game was first announced.
So, more than a demo, but less than the full game.
That sounds ok to me. why are people getting bent out of shape?
It's an odd situation, because you had to have a metacritic of 75 (I think that was the number?) to get on PS+ last generation, but now as they've been day one indie games, we get them announced before the press rate them, so they don't have MC ratings. Knack would have been below par by Sony's rules, but presumably now they don't mind.
Personally, I'd like to see Knack on the service. Seems like the obvious first full priced retail game to me.
LOL people believing what they are told by somebody making the game
Yet you didn't add this yeti've added this line to the op, assuming anyone that actually enters this thread bothers to read OPs
THE REASON PEOPLE ARE MOANING IS THE CONTENT WE WERE TOLD WE WOULD BE GETTING LAST YEAR AND THE CONTENT WE ARE NOW GETTING HAS CHANGED
i've added this line to the op, assuming anyone that actually enters this thread bothers to read OPs
THE REASON PEOPLE ARE MOANING IS THE CONTENT WE WERE TOLD WE WOULD BE GETTING LAST YEAR AND THE CONTENT WE ARE NOW GETTING HAS CHANGED
Yet you didn't add this yet
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/08/20/driveclub-pre-order-bonuses-revealed/
for those asking whats the problem, read the OP. The content we are now getting and the content that was suggested that we were getting last year now differs.
So, more than a demo, but less than the full game.
That sounds ok to me. why are people getting bent out of shape?
At least it's free
i've added this line to the op, assuming anyone that actually enters this thread bothers to read OPs
THE REASON PEOPLE ARE MOANING IS THE CONTENT WE WERE TOLD WE WOULD BE GETTING LAST YEAR AND THE CONTENT WE ARE NOW GETTING HAS CHANGED
Funny you mention that, my garden centre actually gives away apples, to everyone! Just to see if they want to buy the apple tree! How cool is that? No purchase necessary free apples. But now... That raises a question.... If you have to pay monthly for your sample apple tree, and my sample apples used to be free, maybe the garden centre would decide not to give away the free apples if they felt like these sample apple trees can be used in place of free complete trees with other fruits. That could be a concerning precedent.I'm glad I got to taste it before making a decision.
I've always found that practice strange. Obviously it does work, BF4 did really well, as did AC4. Logically I'd think you'd never want to give away the previous game before the release of the next one, because I'd think people would have got their fill from the free game.I think they could also get away with giving AC4 out as the first full retail game. time will tell tho.
Driveclub is now called PS+?PS+ is free?
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say you're paying for membership to the garden center, not the sample tree? Like BJs or Sams Club. You have to pay monthly to even enter the facility, and you still have to pay for any goods you want out of the facility. However, because you are a member, you recieve a discount. You may even get a free item once a month. In that scenario, why are you paying the fee? To gain access.Funny you mention that, my garden centre actually gives away apples, to everyone! Just to see if they want to buy the apple tree! How cool is that? No purchase necessary free apples. But now... That raises a question.... If you have to pay monthly for your sample apple tree, and my sample apples used to be free, maybe the garden centre would decide not to give away the free apples if they felt like these sample apple trees can be used in place of free complete trees with other fruits. That could be a concerning precedent.
I certainly don't think we should roll up to my garden centre, pitch forks in hand, it's not the end of the world, and I'm really happy with my orange tree, but honestly, it bothers me, they misrepresented their side of the deal, and even though my mostly barren tree might still be really nice, it's the lie that bothers me, not the fruit. In fact, part of me thinks they knew for a long time that my apple tree wasn't going to come when they promised, they just wanted to rope in other orange tree owners on the promise of free apple trees.
PS+ is free?
Almost everything I have heard about this reintroduction of Driveclub sounds worse than what was originally promised. What stings even more is you have to wait 11 months for less content and features.
PS+ is free?
If you'd like to talk about the wording on this, can you start a new thread? It's getting a little tiring to see it explained to each genius individually. Thanks.
Yet you didn't add this yet
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/08/20/driveclub-pre-order-bonuses-revealed/
How do we know this is not a "slightly" paired down version of the final game?