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What are you looking forward the most and why? Xenoblade X or FFXV?

DevilFox

Member
FFXV. I guess I know what to expect from X, a bigger, better, deeper and more polished Xenoblade experience.
On the other hand, we still don't know much about FFXV. Only thing I can say is that everything I've read or seen fill my hype gauge, since the first trailer with that "Somnus" song, a long, looong time ago.
 
XCX. I've played every single Final Fantasy sans 13 and none of them (ff6 gets close :p) gave me what Xenoblade did.

The question gets a little more difficult when taking into account Persona 5, though.
 

manueldelalas

Time Traveler
I thought Xenoblade was better than any FF game, and I find the FF series mediocre as a whole, with IV DS, VI and IX being the only great games (others ranging from terrible to mediocre/good), so I'll go with Xenoblade X, which is the most fun I've had with an RPG since the PS1 era.
 

Kuni

Member
FFXV. Easily. Really hoping for something that bridges the gap between the old and the new (and helps us forget XIII). In Nomura I trust!
 

jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
Well considering thier development history, I also would never have thought a game like Xenoblade would have been made by them. Xenoblade itself is opposite the kind of games the people at monolith are known for. Takahashi even kind of said as much.

Xenoblade was a change in direction, but it's still a game designed by MonolithSoft. Maybe if the E3 demo hadn't shown off the new combat elements like the Soul Voice System on top of the cinematic direction I'd doubt the focus of the game my-self, but Xenoblade X is definitely being designed for the same audience. If/when they do announce multiplayer, there's no reason to think it'll become the focus of the game.
 

batbeg

Member
It's going to be Xenoblade Chronicles X for me. I was extremely hyped for Final Fantasy Versus XIII back when I first signed up in GAF in 2007, and even before that when I was lurking. I had faith in Square-Enix to blow me away with the Fabula Nova Crystallis bullshit. But that was a long fucking time ago, and a lot has changed. I'm not a huge fan of Xenoblade (never finished it, but did thoroughly enjoy it for about 50 hours) but I still have more faith getting into that series than anything related to the taint of FNC. Give me a goddamned Ito-san FFXVI and I'll be excited once more.
 

Lernaean

Banned
Hyped for both, but we all know that, unless a miracle happens in SE, Xenoblade X will be the better game.
So i'll go with Xeno X.
Now, because the conversation has already moved there, if the question was P5 or Xeno X or FF, then i'd say P5 without even having seen one screenshot.
It looks like a great gen start for RPGs anyway.
 

Clov

Member
That's tough. Probably Xenoblade, since I already have a Wii U. XV looks great, but I don't have a console to play it on yet.
 

Cosmozone

Member
If I'm not mistaken, we know next to nothing about FFXV at this point. Might include KH3 is well, then. Genuinely hyped about XCX, there's much more information and it's all good news.
 

10k

Banned
Nomura is a great artist and should be the lead artist. But in terms of directing, he's incompetent with schedules and deadlines and is too ambitious with his ideas that he can't accomplish his original vision due to hardware limitations. If this was a western company and he took this long to finish a project, one of two things would happen:

1) he'd be fired and the project salvaged or rebooted
2) he'd be able to finish the project 10 years later, and then be fired.

To me he's unemployable as a director after this. Great artist though.
 

Voliko

Member
Nomura is a great artist and should be the lead artist. But in terms of directing, he's incompetent with schedules and deadlines and is too ambitious with his ideas that he can't accomplish his original vision due to hardware limitations. If this was a western company and he took this long to finish a project, one of two things would happen:

1) he'd be fired and the project salvaged or rebooted
2) he'd be able to finish the project 10 years later, and then be fired.

To me he's unemployable as a director after this. Great artist though.
Nomura has directed several KH games and has worked on various other projects since Versus was announced. It's more the fault of management at SE. There is no way this game has been in production for 8 years, they just announced it way, way too early.
 

SykoTech

Member
Going by the previous games, Final Fantasy XV will likely have the superior battle system. Better characters and story as well, though that probably won't be saying much. Xenoblade Chronicles X will probably be more fun to explore though, with the mechs and all. It's also coming out sooner. But overall, I'd give to FFXV.

Honestly, I care more about Persona 5 and Kingdom Hearts III than both of these.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
Going by the previous games, Final Fantasy XV will likely have the superior battle system. Better characters and story as well, though that probably won't be saying much. Xenoblade Chronicles X will probably be more fun to explore though, with the mechs and all. It's also coming out sooner. But overall, I'd give to FFXV.

Honestly, I care more about Persona 5 and Kingdom Hearts III than both of these.

Actually going by the previous games I'm certain X will have the far superior battle system, characters, and story.
 

MisterHero

Super Member
Even if someone could convince me that XB was derivative of FFXII (it isn't), a spiritual followup of FFXII would've been better than XIII.

Judging unreleased games via their predecessors is a little harsh but XBX has the momentum right now.
 

KoopaTheCasual

Junior Member
Nomura is a great artist and should be the lead artist. But in terms of directing, he's incompetent with schedules and deadlines and is too ambitious with his ideas that he can't accomplish his original vision due to hardware limitations. If this was a western company and he took this long to finish a project, one of two things would happen:

1) he'd be fired and the project salvaged or rebooted
2) he'd be able to finish the project 10 years later, and then be fired.

To me he's unemployable as a director after this. Great artist though.
Please do a simple wiki check of Nomura's credits since 2006, and realize how laughably wrong you are.
 

Lunafreya

Member
Final Fantasy XV for me.

I've been hooked on XIV almost all year, and I still believe SE can make good games.

Still hyped for Xenoblade C X tho!
 

Boogybro

Member
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Strong Midgar vibes.
 
Considering we still haven't seen anything of FFXV except for a bit more than target renders and cutscenes I'm gonna go with the sequel to the best (JRPG) game of last gen which is also further along in development.

Xenoblade X will definitely deliver and then some i think if it's anything like Xenoblade.

FFXV definitely looks pretty and the target renders seem to do a good job but I hope it's nearer to completion than we think. Any more sort of delay will surely kill the Final Fantasy brand even more.
 

Days like these...

Have a Blessed Day
You guys saying ffxv how can you honestly say this, especially after ffxiii? You guys are just setting yourselves up for disappoint but since you are so emotionally invested and have waited so long for it that when it finally releases it will be proclaimed as the 2nd coming of christ no matter how mediocre it turns out to be. As for me (as if it weren't obvious) put me in the Xenoblade camp.
 

Skilletor

Member
You guys saying ffxv how can you honestly say this, especially after ffxiii? You guys are just setting yourselves up for disappoint but since you are so emotionally invested and have waited so long for it that when it finally releases it will be proclaimed as the 2nd coming of christ no matter how mediocre it turns out to be. As for me (as if it weren't obvious) put me in the Xenoblade camp.

Probably because the people who made FF13 have nothing to do with FF15.

Also hilarious that you say that people won't say it's mediocre and yet cite FF13 since, you know, people have no problem saying how terrible that game and its ilk turned out. You're sounding more emotionally invested than the people you're accusing. Seems like you've already decided it'll be a bad game without playing it? lololol
 

impact

Banned
I kinda see what you're saying, but you can't look forward to a game without playing it predecessor? How do new IPs fit into that?

If there was no info, sure, but there's like hours straight of gameplay of X.

I've got enough platforms that I'm never in dire need to find a game to play, so yea I'd skip a game in a story focused genre if I haven't played the first. The fact that there's a New 3DS port but not a Wii U port is just spitting in my face. Their loss, not mine.
 
You guys saying ffxv how can you honestly say this, especially after ffxiii? You guys are just setting yourselves up for disappoint but since you are so emotionally invested and have waited so long for it that when it finally releases it will be proclaimed as the 2nd coming of christ no matter how mediocre it turns out to be. As for me (as if it weren't obvious) put me in the Xenoblade camp.

Since you obviously have such a good idea of what's going on, why don't you tell me why you think FFXV will be bad, and how it relates to XIII?
 

Days like these...

Have a Blessed Day
Probably because the people who made FF13 have nothing to do with FF15.

Also hilarious that you say that people won't say it's mediocre and yet cite FF13 since, you know, people have no problem saying how terrible that game and its ilk turned out. You're sounding more emotionally invested than the people you're accusing.

Lol kettle meet pot. The majority of people willing to admit ffxiii was mediocre were the ones who were NOT emotionally invested in the game. I hope it turns out to be a good game but I have little faith in SE these days.
 

Skilletor

Member
Lol kettle meet pot. The majority of people willing to admit ffxiii was mediocre were the ones who were NOT emotionally invested in the game. I hope it turns out to be a good game but I have little faith in SE these days.

Considering how widely panned and how poorly the sequels did, I wonder how you come up with these statistics.
 

Boogybro

Member
Because SE has more than one team working on FF games. XIII has absolutely nothing to do with the game.

How true is this? Isn't the reason Versus has been in Vapor Hell because the team keeps getting pulled apart to go work on other games? Games like XIII for example.
 

JoJoSono

Banned
You guys saying ffxv how can you honestly say this, especially after ffxiii? You guys are just setting yourselves up for disappoint but since you are so emotionally invested and have waited so long for it that when it finally releases it will be proclaimed as the 2nd coming of christ no matter how mediocre it turns out to be. As for me (as if it weren't obvious) put me in the Xenoblade camp.
Because I like FFXIII.

Opinions how do they work?
 

Lingitiz

Member
Because SE has more than one team working on FF games. XIII has absolutely nothing to do with the game.



what

Ehh do we really know enough about the inner workings of the game to say that those on FF13 aren't touching FFXV? I assume it's all hands on deck considering the original group couldn't even get the game out last gen.
 
How true is this? Isn't the reason Versus has been in Vapor Hell because the team keeps getting pulled apart to go work on other games? Games like XIII for example.

Ehh do we really know enough about the inner workings of the game to say that those on FF13 aren't touching FFXV? I assume it's all hands on deck considering the original group couldn't even get the game out last gen.

The people in charge of notable positions are different hence the different design decisions. Iirc the Versus team is the KH hearts team (KH1 and 2) primarily. Of course there will be some overlap in the teams.
 
I actually have a concrete idea of what XCX is, in terms of gameplay, concept and story. I can't say the same for FFXV. It's a lot easier to get hyped for the former, especially since the original Xenoblade helped revitalize some of my waning interest in console jrpgs and get me to play a lot of other neat games in the genre again. It's also much easier to have faith in a game that still has had a reasonable development schedule.

That said I am very interested in seeing more of FFXV, especially the combat system.
 

Shaanyboi

Banned
Xenoblade. I have little-to-no faith in modern Final Fantasy. XIII was abhorrent garbage stuck so far up its own ass in just about every facet of its design and narrative. Nomura and all that share his "design philosophy" need to get booted.
 

AniHawk

Member
current tally:

xcx - 182
common reasons:
-xenoblade chronicles x will actually come out
-no faith in square enix
-xenoblade chronicles was awesome

ffxv - 71
common reasons:
-nothing beats a brand new final fantasy
-i don't have a wii u
-xenoblade chronicles wasn't that great

p5 - 16
common reasons:
 

Boogybro

Member
The people in charge of notable positions are different hence the different design decisions. Iirc the Versus team is the KH hearts team (KH1 and 2) primarily. Of course there will be some overlap in the teams.

So there is an overlap, no matter how small it might be.
 
How true is this? Isn't the reason Versus has been in Vapor Hell because the team keeps getting pulled apart to go work on other games? Games like XIII for example.

The leadership is completely different. I assume the people pulled to work on XIV and the like were more like programmers, animators, whatever. Nomura just went and worked on handheld games with Osaka team and whoever handled Dissidia, because those could be made with the resources that weren't being allocated to larger projects.


So there is an overlap, no matter how small it might be.

Yeah, but if those people aren't in any position of creative control then it doesn't really matter.
 
So there is an overlap, no matter how small it might be.

The reason FF13 was hated was for its design choices, character design, story etc not because programmer x was working on it.

Of course there's overlap but saying that Ff13 was disappointing and then saying that's a reason why FFXV will be or you have little faith that it won't be is you simply being ignorant. All major roles are lead by different people.

I'm sure the FF14 team has members from the FF13 team as well.
 

sublimit

Banned
current tally:

xcx - 182
common reasons:
-xenoblade chronicles x will actually come out
-no faith in square enix
-xenoblade chronicles was awesome

ffxv - 71
common reasons:
-nothing beats a brand new final fantasy
-i don't have a wii u
-xenoblade chronicles wasn't that great

p5 - 16
common reasons:

Thanks for that. I'll put the link of your post in the OP.
 

aravuus

Member
current tally:

xcx - 182
common reasons:
-xenoblade chronicles x will actually come out
-no faith in square enix
-xenoblade chronicles was awesome

ffxv - 71
common reasons:
-nothing beats a brand new final fantasy
-i don't have a wii u
-xenoblade chronicles wasn't that great

p5 - 16
common reasons:

I'm sure P5 would have tons of more votes if OP actually included it in the question. I know I would have picked it in that case.

Also, common reasons:
- it's fucking persona man come on it's gonna be incredible

So there is an overlap, no matter how small it might be.

Of course, but it makes absolutely no difference when the overlap people are the ones following orders, not the ones designing the game
 

Boogybro

Member
The reason FF13 was hated was for its design choices, character design, story etc not because programmer x was working on it.

Of course there's overlap but saying that Ff13 was disappointing and then saying that's a reason why FFXV will be or you have little faith that it won't be is you simply being ignorant. All major roles are lead by different people.

I'm sure the FF14 team has members from the FF13 team as well.

So you're saying there is no overlap between the team of designers, team of artists, musicians, animators? Just the team of coders?

I'm not just talking about the people at the top making the decisions, but the actual teams of individuals working on the different parts to make up an actual product. You're telling me there is no overlap? I don't believe it.
 

sublimit

Banned
I'm sure P5 would have tons of more votes if OP actually included it in the question. I know I would have picked it in that case.

Also, common reasons:
- it's fucking persona man come on it's gonna be incredible

I agree it's not fair to include P5 so i'll just put the other two results.
 
So you're saying there is no overlap between the team of designers, team of artists, musicians? Just the team of coders?

I'm not just talking about the people at the top making the decisions, but the actual teams of individuals working on the different parts to make up an actual product. You're telling me there is no overlap? I refuse to believe it.

smh where did I say that?

Of course there's overlap. What matters are the lead roles....they are the ones making the design choices and thats why FFXV is fundamentally different.
 
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