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#GAMERGATE: The Threadening [Read the OP] -- #StopGamerGate2014

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8chan post suggesting the enemies of GamerGate will sacrifice one of their own to destroy the ethics movement that's trying to save video games.

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Fucking amazing.

... the cognitive dissonance of these people.

Video games represent exactly what they need to.

.... dude.

I really hope you did not intent this to mean what I'm sure all of this thread are reading it as.

It means that the industry has built in mechanisms to accurately reflect the needs and wants of the consumer.

.... and you did intend it like that. Okay. Nevermind.
 
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Deleted member 126221

Unconfirmed Member
These things are obvious. I was saying an obvious thing just to.

I think I'm dumb but I don't see what's "obvious". Please enlighten me, I don't really see how the recent events validates the dumb things she says. What did she say that got validated?
 

mdisen

Banned
Becomes less silly as the days go on.

As women are driven from their homes.

As universities close events due to threats of gun violence.

As gaming conventions receive bomb threats because they're letting women talk.

Less silly as the days go on.



Does it now?

Like what? Go on. Get specific.

Women being forced from their homes. Events being canceled. This could all be the work of a handful of agitators. Should Muslims abandon Islam because of ISIS?
 

Wensih

Member
2014: The year all games got pushed back to 2015, causing bored assholes to pre-occupy their time tweeting death/rape threats and paradoxically progressing the negative stereotypes they claimed to be denouncing all in the name of journalistic integrity which mostly relates to women in the workplace.-Gamergate
 
Saying it's about ethical journalism is silly. Saying it's a unified harassment campaign is silly.

How about saying it started off as a unified harassment campaign, and then attracted people happy to ignore the human consequences of that harassment as long as they could complain about "SJWs?"
 

mdisen

Banned
One half of this statement is total bullshit. I'm getting sick of people trying to make excuses for the GG people.

I really hope that people start getting arrested for this shit.

I strongly disagree with using violence or the threat of violence. But I also strongly disagree with the sentiment of those being threatened. What am I to do, throw my hands up and say "yep, you were right all along!"?
 

23qwerty

Member
Unreal.

That's a horribly offensive, insensitive and ignorant statement. Very surprised to see such short sighted and rude comment about one groups rights in a thread about defending another groups rights. Clearly you are far from educated on the topic and I advise you to open a history book.

Not joking at all.

America's gun culture is fucked in the head.
 

Mesoian

Member
Women being forced from their homes. Events being canceled. This could all be the work of a handful of agitators. Should Muslims abandon Islam because of ISIS?

Sure, it could be a handful of agitators, a group of bad apples trying spoil the bunch.

But then I see stuff like this.

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Daily.

Less silly as the days go on.
 

Nekofrog

Banned
I strongly disagree with using violence or the threat of violence. But I also strongly disagree with the sentiment of those being threatened. What am I to do, throw my hands up and say "yep, you were right all along!"?

most decent human beings probably would, since the demonstrated threats of violence in and of itself proves the sentiment of those being threatened
 

RM8

Member
I can't believe someone would look at both sides and say "yup, both deserve to be defended equally, they're both just as good / bad". Holy cow, how does that even happen? A woman stating her opinion about games is now just as bad as harassment and insane threats.
 
I strongly disagree with using violence or the threat of violence. But I also strongly disagree with the sentiment of those being threatened. What am I to do, throw my hands up and say "yep, you were right all along!"?
You could give a shit about the safety of a human being and what this event means for us as a culture and society.
 
8chan post suggesting the enemies of GamerGate will sacrifice one of their own to destroy the ethics movement that's trying to save video games.

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Fucking amazing.

I would say that one main thing that all hardcore conspiracy theorists have in common is that they see themselves, or their role in their chosen cause, as being much, much more important to the world than they really are. This is some next level version of that concept, though. This shit right here is active mental dysfunction. Mental dysfunction combined with firearms makes for a really bad situation, cancelling that event was probably the best course of action.

The whole moronic situation is just another illustration of the endless filibuster all debate is rapidly turning into.
 

stupei

Member
Women being forced from their homes. Events being canceled. This could all be the work of a handful of agitators. Should Muslims abandon Islam because of ISIS?

Islam is a unified belief system with core values. Gamergate is a movement of anger directed at no clear target with unfocused and unspecific goals. If you cannot actually see how these two things are not remotely comparable -- and the multitude of ways in which drawing the comparisons is very offensive -- then I'm not sure how far this conversation can actually go. I mean, points for shock value attempt there, I guess, but the ISIS comparison is sort of played out at this point. It's almost as cliche as Nazis by now.
 

BanGy.nz

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8chan post suggesting the enemies of GamerGate will sacrifice one of their own to destroy the ethics movement that's trying to save video games.

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Fucking amazing.
I shouldn't laugh but it's so absurd I couldn't help myself. It's incredible how little perspective of the world that person must have.
 

SwissLion

Member
I strongly disagree with using violence or the threat of violence. But I also strongly disagree with the sentiment of those being threatened. What am I to do, throw my hands up and say "yep, you were right all along!"?

You know that old saying? If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all?

Well obviously it has its problems. Constructive criticism isn't always nice after all.

But you know where it pretty universally applies?

When someone who has done nothing wrong is receiving continuous death threats, maybe it's not the time for your obviously superbly reasoned and nuanced criticism.
 

danm999

Member
I strongly disagree with using violence or the threat of violence. But I also strongly disagree with the sentiment of those being threatened. What am I to do, throw my hands up and say "yep, you were right all along!"?

Realize that despite whatever disagreement you have with what Anita says (or what you think she says) the "worst part" is how she's being victimized, made to feel afraid and silenced by lunatics, not that things she says you disagree with are being validated.

Edit: Whelp, you got banned too.
 

Cybit

FGC Waterboy
You could give a shit about the safety of a human being and what this event means for us as a culture and society.

You're not saying it is impossible to think that the threat given towards Anita is absolutely insane, but still disagree strongly with Anita, are you?

That's really screwed up if you are.
 

SwissLion

Member
Also can we just get a ruling of banning anyone comparing Gamergate or even Gamers in general to Islam.

Cause seriously...?

Seriously?!
 

danm999

Member
You're not saying it is impossible to think that the threat given towards Anita is absolutely insane, but still disagree strongly with Anita, are you?

That's really screwed up if you are.

Of course it is possible. However;

Man, I am a pretty hardcore critic of Sarkeesian, but this is ludicrous. And the worst part is that it only validates all the dumb stuff Sarkeesian says. I can't take it.

Anyone that thinks that is the "worst part" of this situation is severely lacking in perspective or empathy.
 

Wasdie

Neo Member
Why would she care about legal conceal and carry? If somebody wanted to sneak a gun in and shoot her, they could. They wouldn't take the time to set up some checkpoint with medal detectors, lockdown every single entrance to the building, and search every bag just for a speaker that isn't a high profile politician or political candidate.

If somebody wanted to make good on a threat against her, them putting up signs saying C&C isn't allowed isn't going to stop somebody. Why is she lashing out at the local gun laws?
 

SwissLion

Member
You're not saying it is impossible to think that the threat given towards Anita is absolutely insane, but still disagree strongly with Anita, are you?

That's really screwed up if you are.

There's no binary between holding both those beliefs.

But a lot of people seem to think it's a great time to express the latter much more vociferously over the former.
 

louiedog

Member
Most GG peeps are probably teens with no idea what they're doing.

Sometimes I see people say the dumbest, meanest, worst stuff on the internet and think "These kids online are awful. I hope this person at least turns into a functioning adult some day."

Then I see their name elsewhere and they talk about their career, kids, mortgage, etc. and it makes me really sad.
 

r1chard

Member
Just poked my head in to KiA. Almost every single post is about a person. And not many people at that. Absolutely nothing in there about journalism, or ethics. This is not going to get any better any time soon :(
 

Orayn

Member
Why would she care about legal conceal and carry? If somebody wanted to sneak a gun in and shoot her, they could. They wouldn't take the time to set up some checkpoint with medal detectors, lockdown every single entrance to the building, and search every bag just for a speaker.

If somebody wanted to make good on a threat against her, them putting up signs saying C&C isn't allowed isn't going to stop somebody.

Anita requested pat-downs or metal detectors at entrances, but they cited Utah's carry laws as the reasons why they couldn't do that, not time/resource constraints.
 

komplanen

Member
Just when I thought GG'ers couldn't possibly be crazier, one of them suggests the anti-GG SJWs would kill or suicide one of their own just to kill GG. I am speechless.
 
I know it's been linked and mentioned but here's another take that references Gamergate as part of the situation (the original article did not mention Gamergate)--

http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/14/...es-shooting-threat-for-anita-sarkeesian-visit

Jesus fucking fuck. This is even more extreme a terrorism event than that plane bomb threat against Sony a few months ago. With any luck maaaaaaabye this can get more people to agree that this has gone a bit too far?
 

Cybit

FGC Waterboy
Of course it is possible. However;



Anyone that thinks that is the "worst part" of this situation is severely lacking in perspective or empathy.

Ah!

OK, I read the reply and the quote he had and was like "wait, are you saying what I think you're saying??"

Worked in US politics for an election cycle and I've seen people do some terrible things under the pretense of "I was wronged even worse, so no one can criticize me even if I'm completely wrong!" (note: this is not an allusion to Anita, just the general principle spooked me)

Wanted to make sure we hadn't drifted into "her life was threatened by insane psycho, therefore you must support her 100% in everything she says" territory.

My bad. :)
 
Why would she care about legal conceal and carry? If somebody wanted to sneak a gun in and shoot her, they could. They wouldn't take the time to set up some checkpoint with medal detectors, lockdown every single entrance to the building, and search every bag just for a speaker that isn't a high profile politician or political candidate.

If somebody wanted to make good on a threat against her, them putting up signs saying C&C isn't allowed isn't going to stop somebody. Why is she lashing out at the local gun laws?

Because someone sent a e-mail to the University saying they will cause a blood bath if she went?
Also, by no means is she dumb enough to tell the University to ban guns for when she has to speak because that would not end well.
 

23qwerty

Member
WTF... seriously... wtf...

Watch people at #GG will now use Anita canceling her event because she disagrees with Utah's gun rights instead of you know because of a death threat.


Why would she care about legal conceal and carry? If somebody wanted to sneak a gun in and shoot her, they could. They wouldn't take the time to set up some checkpoint with medal detectors, lockdown every single entrance to the building, and search every bag just for a speaker that isn't a high profile politician or political candidate.

If somebody wanted to make good on a threat against her, them putting up signs saying C&C isn't allowed isn't going to stop somebody. Why is she lashing out at the local gun laws?


That was fast.
 

jetjevons

Bish loves my games!
Last line of article announcing Anita's cancellation due to open carry laws on campus:

"No prior threats had been made against USU in the 17 years Vitale has been on campus, he said."

Go #gamergate!
 
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