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[JABEE]

But Brady lost two Superbowls!!

Each Superbowl Brady put his team in a position to win. Welker drooped a pass and Samuel dropped an interception and then the DEFENSE let the Pats down.

Brady has always put his team in a position to win in Superbowls. Meanwhile Peyton got blown the fuck out last year.

The Patriots scoring 14 and 17 points in those Super Bowls was the defense letting the team down.

Tom Brady overthrowing an easy pass to Welker is "Welker dropping a pass."

I will give you Asante dropping the interception, but Brady has no one else but himself to blame for the other games.

Watch some of the recent games Brady played against the Ravens in the playoffs. He has looked shaky as fuck under any kind of pass rush.

The game that the Pats won last post season was a case of Belichick taking the ball out Brady's feeble, aging hands. They relied heavily on the run to win the game.

This is without mentioning the cheating that the Pats got away with in the early 2000s, a time when Brady's Canton resume was cemented.

You know who beat those great Manning Colts teams and that great Steelers team? The Patriots and their cameras. They cheated through every game. The Pats may have been a great team on their own, but we will never know. They needed the edge that they had to beat some great teams that were favored in their games (Steelers, Rams, Eagles).

The Pats are remembered for their dynasty days. They were all a sham. Brady may have stolen a championship or two from Manning and Roethlisberger during those days.

Brady has absolutely zero championships since the Patriots were caught for cheating the game. They received an advantage from cheating. Every one of those Super Bowl "victories" were won on field goals. The Patriots used their advantage to beat superior teams.

 

[LyleLanley]

Tom Brady is the greatest football player of all time and anyone who disagrees is a stupid idiot who has probably never watched a game in their life.

 

[Stat Flow]

Amendola is an established and known player. His signing was big at the time. Who knew he would turn out to be a complete waste of money.

I never said he wasn't known, I said that about Edelman, I was talking about the quality of the weapons. And Amendola hasn't really produced, plus the injury prone-ness.

People are still acting like Edleman isn't good? Put him with any good QB and he'd make plays. Amendola isn't a scrub either (one of these dudes returned a punt)... Gronk speaks for himself since he is what makes offense gel together.

Peyton has more raw talent around him, but the no name stuff is played out and exaggerated. There are days when Manning is throwing absolute dimes and just throwing guys open. Today was mostly a duck day for him, but both of these dudes name everyone around them better. Manning make Blair White look like he had a future in the NFL after the Colts lol.

I never said Edelman was a scrub. What I said about Edelman was that he literally came out of nowhere.

I never said Amendola was a scrub either. He's injury prone and has been somewhat of a no-show in many games.

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All I am saying is that the overall quality of weapons that Peyton has is superior to what Brady has. If we're going to act like that's not the case, then we must be watching different teams. I never said Brady doesn't have any receivers whatsoever.

 

[PARTYNEXTDOOR]

The Patriots scoring 14 and 17 points in those Super Bowls was the defense letting the team down.

Tom Brady overthrowing an easy pass to Welker is "Welker dropping a pass."

I will give you Asante dropping the interception, but Brady has no one else but himself to blame for the other games.

Watch some of the recent games Brady played against the Ravens in the playoffs. He has looked shaky as fuck under any kind of pass rush.

The game that the Pats won last post season was a case of Belichick taking the ball out Brady's feeble, aging hands. They relied heavily on the run to win the game.

This is without mentioning the cheating that the Pats got away with in the early 2000s, a time when Brady's Canton resume was cemented.

You know who beat those great Manning Colts teams and that great Steelers team? The Patriots and their cameras. They cheated through every game. The Pats may have been a great team on their own, but we will never know. They needed the edge that they had to beat some great teams that were favored in their games (Steelers, Rams, Eagles).

The Pats are remembered for their dynasty days. They were all a sham. Brady may have stolen a championship or two from Manning and Roethlisberger during those days.

Brady has absolutely zero championships since the Patriots were caught for cheating the game. They received an advantage from cheating. Every one of those Super Bowl "victories" were won on field goals. The Patriots used their advantage to beat superior teams.

Doesn't matter. Brady still put them in a position to win and no Welker NEEDS to catch that ball.

Let's not even bring up Peytons QB performance
The Cold, Hard Reality: Peyton Manning shits the bed every year in the playoffs

Manning is a prolific Hall of Fame quarterback who will be remembered as one of the all-time great.

But the bottom line is that his otherwise brilliant career is burdened by one undeniable weakness: he shits the bed almost every f*cking year in the playoffs. In fact, based upon regular season production and postseason results, Manning is probably the worst Big Game quarterback of all time, always reserving his worst game of the season for the playoffs.

1997 regular season – Manning is dominant in his final season for the Tennessee Volunteers, passing for 36 TD, 11 INT while leading the team to 32.9 PPG in the tough SEC. The best QB in college football finishes No. 2 in the Heisman voting, behind triple-theat performer Charles Woodson.

1997 postseason – Manning produces just a single TD through three quarters and is benched in the fourth quarter as the talent-laden No. 3 Volunteers get smoked by Nebraska, 42-17. Manning completes 21 of 31 for 131 yards, a dismal 4.2 YPA. He is benched in the fourth quarter for Tee Martin, who leads a scoring drive and then leads stacked Tennessee to the national title the following season.

1999 regular season – The Colts roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind second-year phenom Manning. They score 26.4 PPG, third in the NFL.

1999 postseason – Manning completes just 45.2% of his passes with 5.4 YPA and a 62.3 rating as the Colts lose to the Titans, 19-16, playing at home in the Indy dome no less. One and done in the playoffs.

2000 regular season – Manning is brilliant (33 TD, 15 INT, 94.7 rating), while leading the Colts to 26.8 PPG (fourth) and a 10-6 record.

2000 postseason – Manning again struggles to get the ball downfield, completing just 53.1% of his passes for 194 yards, 6.1 YPA and an ordinary 82.0 rating. The Colts lose in Miami, 23-17. One and done in the playoffs.

2002 regular season – The Colts are merely ordinary on offense but go 10-6 and earn a wildcard spot behind one of the league's better defenses: 19.6 PPG (7th). They earn a cushy draw against the 9-7 AFC East champion Jets.

2002 postseason – Manning and the Colts come up lame in one of the most dismal offensive performances in modern playoff history. He completes 45.2% of his passes for 137 yards, 4.4 YPA, 0 TD, 2 INT and a 31.2 rating. The Colts are embarrassed by the 9-7 Jets, 41-0. One and done in the playoffs.

2003 regular season – The Colts explode for 27.9 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record and the AFC South crown. Manning wins his first NFL MVP award, sharing the honor with Steve McNair.

2003 postseason – MVP Manning finally enjoys his first postseason success leading the Colts to the AFC title game with a pair of brilliant playoff performances against the Broncos and Chiefs. Then his statistical chariot turned into a pumpkin, with four picks and a 35.5 rating in an ugly 24-14 loss at New England.

2004 regular season – MVP Manning sets the football world abuzz, throwing a record 49 TD passes while leading the Colts to 522 points and a 12-4 record. Manning wins his second consecutive league MVP award.

2004 postseason – Manning is brilliant against the Broncos in the wildcard round, as he was the year before. Then the NFL MVP shits the bed against the Patriots, with just 5.7 YPA, 0 TD, 1 INT and a 69.3 rating in a 20-3 loss. Compared to regular-season production, it is arguably the worst offensive performance in the history of the NFL postseason – at least to that point.

2005 regular season – The mighty Colts are teed up on both sides of the ball to win the Super Bowl: No. 2 in scoring offense (27.4 PPG); No. 2 in scoring defense (15.4), on their way to a brilliant 14-2 record and No. 1 seed in the AFC. It sets up a week rest and a home game against the 11-5 Steelers. By now you know how this story ends.

2005 postseason – Manning didn't exactly shit the bed. But after another brilliant regular season, the offense struggles with its worst performance of the year, producing just 3 points through three quarters. The Colts lose at home to the Steelers, 21-18. One and done in the playoffs.

2006 regular season – The Colts score 26.7 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record.

2006 postseason – Proving that even a blind squirrel can find a nut, Manning throws 3 TDs and 7 INTs in four postseason games, but bumbles his way to his only Super Bowl victory behind Indy's brilliant defensive play (16.3 PPG in postseason). He posts the lowest playoff passer rating of any Super Bowl-winning quarterback.

2007 regular season – The defending champs roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind a prolific offense (28.1 PPG; 3rd) and the league's best defense (16.4 PPG; 1st).

2007 postseason – Manning passes for 402 yards and 3 TDs against the visiting Chargers. But the game turns on two costly INTs in San Diego territory at the end of the first half and at the start of the second half. His third-quarter pass was picked off at the San Diego 3, costing the team critical points in a 28-24 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2008 regular season – The Colts go 12-4, led by a defense that's No. 7 in the NFL in scoring (18.6 PPG). They go on the road in the wildcard round, but get another gimme draw against the 8-8 AFC West champion Chargers. With foil Tom Brady out all year with an injury, the path is paved for Manning and the Colts to win their second Super Bowl.

2008 postseason – Manning doesn't shit the bed. But he hardly looks like the NFL's Most Valuable Player against the average San Diego defense. The Colts struggle to find a groove in a 23-17 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2009 regular season – The balanced Colts go 14-2 behind a strong offense (7th in scoring) and defense (8th), and another MVP performance by Manning (33 TD, 16 INT, 99.9 rating).

2009 postseason – Manning advances to the Super Bowl for the second time in his career. The MVP has a chance to tie the game and cement his legend in the fourth quarter. Instead, his pass his picked off by Tracy Porter, who returns it 74 yards for the game-clinching score. Colts lose to the Saints, 31-17, as Manning is outplayed by Drew Brees.

2010 regular season – The Colts struggle through a 10-6 season, but it's still enough to win the AFC South. Manning throws 33 TD passes and again leads one of the best offenses in football (27.2 PPG).

2010 postseason – Manning plays well, passing for 225 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT and a 108.7 rating on 26 attempts. But his team, as usual, suddenly struggles to score points in a critical game. The Colts lose at home to the Jets, 17-16. One and done in the playoffs.

2012 regular season – Manning's first year in Denver is a great success. The Broncos are stacked on both sides of the ball (No. 2 scoring offense; No. 4 scoring defense), go 13-3 and earn the AFC's No. 1 seed.

2012 postseason – Manning threw a pick-six and an ugly Favre-esque across-his-body overtime INT to seal Denver's fate in a 38-35 loss to the Ravens. The Broncos fail to win a game in which they produced two special teams touchdowns. One and done in the playoffs.

2013 regular season – The Broncos dominate the NFL behind Manning's fifth MVP performance. He throws a record 55 TD passes while leading the first 600-point team in NFL history (606).

2013 postseason – Manning takes shitting the bed to new levels in Super Bowl XLVIII. Hell, he shit all over the floor and the walls, too. Wide-eyed Manning muffs the first snap of the game, handing the Seahawks a gift 2-0 lead. He's picked off in Seattle territory later in the first quarter, and throws a pick-six at the end of the first half.

The greatest offense in NFL history is shutout for nearly three quarters, behind Manning's worst game of the season (5.7 YPA, 73.5 rating). The Denver offense, after scoring 37.9 PPG in the regular season, is humiliated in a 43-8 loss. It is easily the worst postseason offensive performance relative to regular season success in the Super Bowl Era, replacing Manning's 2004 Colts for that dishonor.

 

[crimzonflame]

Vinateri >>> Brady

 

[LyleLanley]

 

[PARTYNEXTDOOR]

Brady too goat.

 

[Godslay]

I couldn't support a metrosexual European poser as my QB.

As shitty as Manning may be in the playoffs, fact still stands he's a man, he was born in America, and he loves freedom. Pretty ironic that Tom Brady plays for the Patriots when he's a red coat at heart.

 

[Halcyon]

Tom Brady overthrowing an easy pass to Welker is "Welker dropping a pass."

It hits him right in the hands.

 

[Respect]

Still hurts

 

[rjc571]

Doesn't matter. Brady still put them in a position to win and no Welker NEEDS to catch that ball.

Let's not even bring up Peytons QB performance
The Cold, Hard Reality: Peyton Manning shits the bed every year in the playoffs

Manning is a prolific Hall of Fame quarterback who will be remembered as one of the all-time great.

But the bottom line is that his otherwise brilliant career is burdened by one undeniable weakness: he shits the bed almost every f*cking year in the playoffs. In fact, based upon regular season production and postseason results, Manning is probably the worst Big Game quarterback of all time, always reserving his worst game of the season for the playoffs.

1997 regular season – Manning is dominant in his final season for the Tennessee Volunteers, passing for 36 TD, 11 INT while leading the team to 32.9 PPG in the tough SEC. The best QB in college football finishes No. 2 in the Heisman voting, behind triple-theat performer Charles Woodson.

1997 postseason – Manning produces just a single TD through three quarters and is benched in the fourth quarter as the talent-laden No. 3 Volunteers get smoked by Nebraska, 42-17. Manning completes 21 of 31 for 131 yards, a dismal 4.2 YPA. He is benched in the fourth quarter for Tee Martin, who leads a scoring drive and then leads stacked Tennessee to the national title the following season.

1999 regular season – The Colts roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind second-year phenom Manning. They score 26.4 PPG, third in the NFL.

1999 postseason – Manning completes just 45.2% of his passes with 5.4 YPA and a 62.3 rating as the Colts lose to the Titans, 19-16, playing at home in the Indy dome no less. One and done in the playoffs.

2000 regular season – Manning is brilliant (33 TD, 15 INT, 94.7 rating), while leading the Colts to 26.8 PPG (fourth) and a 10-6 record.

2000 postseason – Manning again struggles to get the ball downfield, completing just 53.1% of his passes for 194 yards, 6.1 YPA and an ordinary 82.0 rating. The Colts lose in Miami, 23-17. One and done in the playoffs.

2002 regular season – The Colts are merely ordinary on offense but go 10-6 and earn a wildcard spot behind one of the league's better defenses: 19.6 PPG (7th). They earn a cushy draw against the 9-7 AFC East champion Jets.

2002 postseason – Manning and the Colts come up lame in one of the most dismal offensive performances in modern playoff history. He completes 45.2% of his passes for 137 yards, 4.4 YPA, 0 TD, 2 INT and a 31.2 rating. The Colts are embarrassed by the 9-7 Jets, 41-0. One and done in the playoffs.

2003 regular season – The Colts explode for 27.9 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record and the AFC South crown. Manning wins his first NFL MVP award, sharing the honor with Steve McNair.

2003 postseason – MVP Manning finally enjoys his first postseason success leading the Colts to the AFC title game with a pair of brilliant playoff performances against the Broncos and Chiefs. Then his statistical chariot turned into a pumpkin, with four picks and a 35.5 rating in an ugly 24-14 loss at New England.

2004 regular season – MVP Manning sets the football world abuzz, throwing a record 49 TD passes while leading the Colts to 522 points and a 12-4 record. Manning wins his second consecutive league MVP award.

2004 postseason – Manning is brilliant against the Broncos in the wildcard round, as he was the year before. Then the NFL MVP shits the bed against the Patriots, with just 5.7 YPA, 0 TD, 1 INT and a 69.3 rating in a 20-3 loss. Compared to regular-season production, it is arguably the worst offensive performance in the history of the NFL postseason – at least to that point.

2005 regular season – The mighty Colts are teed up on both sides of the ball to win the Super Bowl: No. 2 in scoring offense (27.4 PPG); No. 2 in scoring defense (15.4), on their way to a brilliant 14-2 record and No. 1 seed in the AFC. It sets up a week rest and a home game against the 11-5 Steelers. By now you know how this story ends.

2005 postseason – Manning didn't exactly shit the bed. But after another brilliant regular season, the offense struggles with its worst performance of the year, producing just 3 points through three quarters. The Colts lose at home to the Steelers, 21-18. One and done in the playoffs.

2006 regular season – The Colts score 26.7 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record.

2006 postseason – Proving that even a blind squirrel can find a nut, Manning throws 3 TDs and 7 INTs in four postseason games, but bumbles his way to his only Super Bowl victory behind Indy's brilliant defensive play (16.3 PPG in postseason). He posts the lowest playoff passer rating of any Super Bowl-winning quarterback.

2007 regular season – The defending champs roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind a prolific offense (28.1 PPG; 3rd) and the league's best defense (16.4 PPG; 1st).

2007 postseason – Manning passes for 402 yards and 3 TDs against the visiting Chargers. But the game turns on two costly INTs in San Diego territory at the end of the first half and at the start of the second half. His third-quarter pass was picked off at the San Diego 3, costing the team critical points in a 28-24 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2008 regular season – The Colts go 12-4, led by a defense that's No. 7 in the NFL in scoring (18.6 PPG). They go on the road in the wildcard round, but get another gimme draw against the 8-8 AFC West champion Chargers. With foil Tom Brady out all year with an injury, the path is paved for Manning and the Colts to win their second Super Bowl.

2008 postseason – Manning doesn't shit the bed. But he hardly looks like the NFL's Most Valuable Player against the average San Diego defense. The Colts struggle to find a groove in a 23-17 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2009 regular season – The balanced Colts go 14-2 behind a strong offense (7th in scoring) and defense (8th), and another MVP performance by Manning (33 TD, 16 INT, 99.9 rating).

2009 postseason – Manning advances to the Super Bowl for the second time in his career. The MVP has a chance to tie the game and cement his legend in the fourth quarter. Instead, his pass his picked off by Tracy Porter, who returns it 74 yards for the game-clinching score. Colts lose to the Saints, 31-17, as Manning is outplayed by Drew Brees.

2010 regular season – The Colts struggle through a 10-6 season, but it's still enough to win the AFC South. Manning throws 33 TD passes and again leads one of the best offenses in football (27.2 PPG).

2010 postseason – Manning plays well, passing for 225 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT and a 108.7 rating on 26 attempts. But his team, as usual, suddenly struggles to score points in a critical game. The Colts lose at home to the Jets, 17-16. One and done in the playoffs.

2012 regular season – Manning's first year in Denver is a great success. The Broncos are stacked on both sides of the ball (No. 2 scoring offense; No. 4 scoring defense), go 13-3 and earn the AFC's No. 1 seed.

2012 postseason – Manning threw a pick-six and an ugly Favre-esque across-his-body overtime INT to seal Denver's fate in a 38-35 loss to the Ravens. The Broncos fail to win a game in which they produced two special teams touchdowns. One and done in the playoffs.

2013 regular season – The Broncos dominate the NFL behind Manning's fifth MVP performance. He throws a record 55 TD passes while leading the first 600-point team in NFL history (606).

2013 postseason – Manning takes shitting the bed to new levels in Super Bowl XLVIII. Hell, he shit all over the floor and the walls, too. Wide-eyed Manning muffs the first snap of the game, handing the Seahawks a gift 2-0 lead. He's picked off in Seattle territory later in the first quarter, and throws a pick-six at the end of the first half.

The greatest offense in NFL history is shutout for nearly three quarters, behind Manning's worst game of the season (5.7 YPA, 73.5 rating). The Denver offense, after scoring 37.9 PPG in the regular season, is humiliated in a 43-8 loss. It is easily the worst postseason offensive performance relative to regular season success in the Super Bowl Era, replacing Manning's 2004 Colts for that dishonor.

...and that's all she wrote. God dayum.

 

[Edwardo]

Tom Brady is the greatest football player of all time and anyone who disagrees is a stupid idiot who has probably never watched a game in their life.

WOOO! Telling it how it is.

It hits him right in the hands.

Why do you do this to me right now?

 

[Milchjon]

I couldn't support a metrosexual European poser as my QB.

As shitty as Manning may be in the playoffs, fact still stands he's a man, he was born in America, and he loves freedom. Pretty ironic that Tom Brady plays for the Patriots when he's a red coat at heart.

 

[vikki]

Vinateri >>> Brady

You should probably let him play QB for you then.

 

[Halcyon]

WOOO! Telling it how it is.



Why do you do this to me right now?

 

[LyleLanley]

I get scared every time Gronk hits the ground.

 

[eznark]

 

[LQX]

Glad I did not get rid of him from my fantasy team. I was so tempted but he has come through big time.

Who is the woman in the center?

Edit-founder her.

 

[Respect]

I get scared every time Gronk hits the ground.

I knew I wasn't the only one.

Hell, the very first catch he made yesterday, TJ ward torpedoed his legs...there was a moment of FUCK...then he popped up, and my heart rate stabilized. On that note is TJ Ward the new Bernard Pollard? Since we aren't playing the titans does he feel the need to take up the mantle?

 

[Milchjon]

Who is the women in the center?

Some comedian I've never heard of but that makes for perfect reaction gifs.

Name is Amanda Seales.

 

[Respect]

Asante Samuel dropping that int kills me more, though this doesn't feel all that good either.

 

[Haloid1177]

As a Pats fan that's the best/worst play I've seen in my lifetime.

 

[Edwardo]

Thanks. God he's such a beast.

 

[Half and half]

Divine intervention couldn't have stopped that.

 

[eznark]

Divine intervention couldn't have stopped that.

But a great A/V team would've

 

[Zeke]

Doesn't matter. Brady still put them in a position to win and no Welker NEEDS to catch that ball.

Let's not even bring up Peytons QB performance
The Cold, Hard Reality: Peyton Manning shits the bed every year in the playoffs

Manning is a prolific Hall of Fame quarterback who will be remembered as one of the all-time great.

But the bottom line is that his otherwise brilliant career is burdened by one undeniable weakness: he shits the bed almost every f*cking year in the playoffs. In fact, based upon regular season production and postseason results, Manning is probably the worst Big Game quarterback of all time, always reserving his worst game of the season for the playoffs.

1997 regular season – Manning is dominant in his final season for the Tennessee Volunteers, passing for 36 TD, 11 INT while leading the team to 32.9 PPG in the tough SEC. The best QB in college football finishes No. 2 in the Heisman voting, behind triple-theat performer Charles Woodson.

1997 postseason – Manning produces just a single TD through three quarters and is benched in the fourth quarter as the talent-laden No. 3 Volunteers get smoked by Nebraska, 42-17. Manning completes 21 of 31 for 131 yards, a dismal 4.2 YPA. He is benched in the fourth quarter for Tee Martin, who leads a scoring drive and then leads stacked Tennessee to the national title the following season.

1999 regular season – The Colts roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind second-year phenom Manning. They score 26.4 PPG, third in the NFL.

1999 postseason – Manning completes just 45.2% of his passes with 5.4 YPA and a 62.3 rating as the Colts lose to the Titans, 19-16, playing at home in the Indy dome no less. One and done in the playoffs.

2000 regular season – Manning is brilliant (33 TD, 15 INT, 94.7 rating), while leading the Colts to 26.8 PPG (fourth) and a 10-6 record.

2000 postseason – Manning again struggles to get the ball downfield, completing just 53.1% of his passes for 194 yards, 6.1 YPA and an ordinary 82.0 rating. The Colts lose in Miami, 23-17. One and done in the playoffs.

2002 regular season – The Colts are merely ordinary on offense but go 10-6 and earn a wildcard spot behind one of the league's better defenses: 19.6 PPG (7th). They earn a cushy draw against the 9-7 AFC East champion Jets.

2002 postseason – Manning and the Colts come up lame in one of the most dismal offensive performances in modern playoff history. He completes 45.2% of his passes for 137 yards, 4.4 YPA, 0 TD, 2 INT and a 31.2 rating. The Colts are embarrassed by the 9-7 Jets, 41-0. One and done in the playoffs.

2003 regular season – The Colts explode for 27.9 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record and the AFC South crown. Manning wins his first NFL MVP award, sharing the honor with Steve McNair.

2003 postseason – MVP Manning finally enjoys his first postseason success leading the Colts to the AFC title game with a pair of brilliant playoff performances against the Broncos and Chiefs. Then his statistical chariot turned into a pumpkin, with four picks and a 35.5 rating in an ugly 24-14 loss at New England.

2004 regular season – MVP Manning sets the football world abuzz, throwing a record 49 TD passes while leading the Colts to 522 points and a 12-4 record. Manning wins his second consecutive league MVP award.

2004 postseason – Manning is brilliant against the Broncos in the wildcard round, as he was the year before. Then the NFL MVP shits the bed against the Patriots, with just 5.7 YPA, 0 TD, 1 INT and a 69.3 rating in a 20-3 loss. Compared to regular-season production, it is arguably the worst offensive performance in the history of the NFL postseason – at least to that point.

2005 regular season – The mighty Colts are teed up on both sides of the ball to win the Super Bowl: No. 2 in scoring offense (27.4 PPG); No. 2 in scoring defense (15.4), on their way to a brilliant 14-2 record and No. 1 seed in the AFC. It sets up a week rest and a home game against the 11-5 Steelers. By now you know how this story ends.

2005 postseason – Manning didn't exactly shit the bed. But after another brilliant regular season, the offense struggles with its worst performance of the year, producing just 3 points through three quarters. The Colts lose at home to the Steelers, 21-18. One and done in the playoffs.

2006 regular season – The Colts score 26.7 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record.

2006 postseason – Proving that even a blind squirrel can find a nut, Manning throws 3 TDs and 7 INTs in four postseason games, but bumbles his way to his only Super Bowl victory behind Indy's brilliant defensive play (16.3 PPG in postseason). He posts the lowest playoff passer rating of any Super Bowl-winning quarterback.

2007 regular season – The defending champs roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind a prolific offense (28.1 PPG; 3rd) and the league's best defense (16.4 PPG; 1st).

2007 postseason – Manning passes for 402 yards and 3 TDs against the visiting Chargers. But the game turns on two costly INTs in San Diego territory at the end of the first half and at the start of the second half. His third-quarter pass was picked off at the San Diego 3, costing the team critical points in a 28-24 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2008 regular season – The Colts go 12-4, led by a defense that's No. 7 in the NFL in scoring (18.6 PPG). They go on the road in the wildcard round, but get another gimme draw against the 8-8 AFC West champion Chargers. With foil Tom Brady out all year with an injury, the path is paved for Manning and the Colts to win their second Super Bowl.

2008 postseason – Manning doesn't shit the bed. But he hardly looks like the NFL's Most Valuable Player against the average San Diego defense. The Colts struggle to find a groove in a 23-17 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2009 regular season – The balanced Colts go 14-2 behind a strong offense (7th in scoring) and defense (8th), and another MVP performance by Manning (33 TD, 16 INT, 99.9 rating).

2009 postseason – Manning advances to the Super Bowl for the second time in his career. The MVP has a chance to tie the game and cement his legend in the fourth quarter. Instead, his pass his picked off by Tracy Porter, who returns it 74 yards for the game-clinching score. Colts lose to the Saints, 31-17, as Manning is outplayed by Drew Brees.

2010 regular season – The Colts struggle through a 10-6 season, but it's still enough to win the AFC South. Manning throws 33 TD passes and again leads one of the best offenses in football (27.2 PPG).

2010 postseason – Manning plays well, passing for 225 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT and a 108.7 rating on 26 attempts. But his team, as usual, suddenly struggles to score points in a critical game. The Colts lose at home to the Jets, 17-16. One and done in the playoffs.

2012 regular season – Manning's first year in Denver is a great success. The Broncos are stacked on both sides of the ball (No. 2 scoring offense; No. 4 scoring defense), go 13-3 and earn the AFC's No. 1 seed.

2012 postseason – Manning threw a pick-six and an ugly Favre-esque across-his-body overtime INT to seal Denver's fate in a 38-35 loss to the Ravens. The Broncos fail to win a game in which they produced two special teams touchdowns. One and done in the playoffs.

2013 regular season – The Broncos dominate the NFL behind Manning's fifth MVP performance. He throws a record 55 TD passes while leading the first 600-point team in NFL history (606).

2013 postseason – Manning takes shitting the bed to new levels in Super Bowl XLVIII. Hell, he shit all over the floor and the walls, too. Wide-eyed Manning muffs the first snap of the game, handing the Seahawks a gift 2-0 lead. He's picked off in Seattle territory later in the first quarter, and throws a pick-six at the end of the first half.

The greatest offense in NFL history is shutout for nearly three quarters, behind Manning's worst game of the season (5.7 YPA, 73.5 rating). The Denver offense, after scoring 37.9 PPG in the regular season, is humiliated in a 43-8 loss. It is easily the worst postseason offensive performance relative to regular season success in the Super Bowl Era, replacing Manning's 2004 Colts for that dishonor.

This has to be the best nfl post ever.
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[Slappers Only]

Yesterday's installment in the Brady/Manning saga was an emblematic performance and an instant classic.

The two best quarterbacks of our era doing what they'll be remembered for: Manning putting up big numbers, and Brady winning.

 

[Milchjon]

This has to be the best nfl post ever.
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It's all copy/pasted from this post:

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.co...w-tom-brady-better-than-peyton-manning/31873/

Which is one of the loveliest things I've read all year. There's so much more in there, and it should be read in full.

 

[eznark]

Staunchest Tom Brady supporter is also a plagiarist. Surprising no one.

 

[Milchjon]

Staunchest Tom Brady supporter is also a plagiarist. Surprising no one.

Let's call it a remix, okay?

It's not like Brady haters have come up with any new material in about 7 years.

 

[Cheap]

It's funny to see people get so riled up just for even mentioning the Patriots. I'm not even a Pats fan and even I can acknowledge the fact that they have probably been the best team in well over a decade and counting now.

People also bring up the fact they haven't won a Superbowl in years as if that is the end-all metric for how good a team is. Though it is the ultimate goal for every team to win it, it shouldn't be the only prerequisite for a successful season.

I'm ecstatic if my team even makes the playoffs.

 

[Striker]

Asante Samuel dropping that int kills me more, though this doesn't feel all that good either.

Who's to say he comes down with both feet in? He never gets the opportunity if Tyree runs his right route.

Besides, the bigger never-to-be was one of the hail mary passes to Moss that was broken up by a trailing Corey Webster who finger tipped it away otherwise it's a TD or pass completed into FG position.

And the Giants didn't take them down once, but twice!

 

[Maxim726X]

18-7
10-11

Brady and Manning playoff record respectively. Brady plays better in the playoffs and Manning plays worse. That's enough for me.

Truth.

It's the one knock against Peypey- Hit him early, and he's useless for the rest of the game. Yes, this can be said of any QB to some extent but he's awful when he's under a lot of pressure from great defenses (see: playoff history).

 

[Milchjon]

Who's to say he comes down with both feet in? He never gets the opportunity if Tyree runs his right route.

Besides, the bigger never-to-be was one of the hail mary passes to Moss that was broken up by a trailing Corey Webster who finger tipped it away otherwise it's a TD or pass completed into FG position.

And the Giants didn't take them down once, but twice!

Both games had so many moments that could've gone the other way. Sometimes you're just shit outta luck.

 

[MechDX]

Tom will look good in a Texans jersey next year.

 

[Tom Penny]

Manning is the greatest QB in history that nobody would ever choose to win one game and if the game is in bad weather he's not even in the conversation.

 

[Striker]

Both games had so many moments that could've gone the other way. Sometimes you're just shit outta luck.

Yeah there were a lot of moments, and went both ways. The second meeting, truthfully neither team was that good. Eli and the pass offense carried the team for so many games. JPP saved them with a blocked FG after Romo overthrew a wide open Miles Austin.

Or when Green Bay got into the playoffs back in 2010 because of Matt Dodge's punt. Saints going through countless WTF wins in their run.

 

[JABEE]

It hits him right in the hands.

Shit throw. Wes Welker is about 5'4" and Brady throws it high and behind him.

 

[Respect]

Tom will look good in a Texans jersey next year.

Psh, he's already there!

 

[friskykillface]

It hits him right in the hands.

grrrrrr CATCH THE BALL WELKER

 

[Cooter]

Doesn't matter. Brady still put them in a position to win and no Welker NEEDS to catch that ball.

Let's not even bring up Peytons QB performance
The Cold, Hard Reality: Peyton Manning shits the bed every year in the playoffs

Manning is a prolific Hall of Fame quarterback who will be remembered as one of the all-time great.

But the bottom line is that his otherwise brilliant career is burdened by one undeniable weakness: he shits the bed almost every f*cking year in the playoffs. In fact, based upon regular season production and postseason results, Manning is probably the worst Big Game quarterback of all time, always reserving his worst game of the season for the playoffs.

1997 regular season – Manning is dominant in his final season for the Tennessee Volunteers, passing for 36 TD, 11 INT while leading the team to 32.9 PPG in the tough SEC. The best QB in college football finishes No. 2 in the Heisman voting, behind triple-theat performer Charles Woodson.

1997 postseason – Manning produces just a single TD through three quarters and is benched in the fourth quarter as the talent-laden No. 3 Volunteers get smoked by Nebraska, 42-17. Manning completes 21 of 31 for 131 yards, a dismal 4.2 YPA. He is benched in the fourth quarter for Tee Martin, who leads a scoring drive and then leads stacked Tennessee to the national title the following season.

1999 regular season – The Colts roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind second-year phenom Manning. They score 26.4 PPG, third in the NFL.

1999 postseason – Manning completes just 45.2% of his passes with 5.4 YPA and a 62.3 rating as the Colts lose to the Titans, 19-16, playing at home in the Indy dome no less. One and done in the playoffs.

2000 regular season – Manning is brilliant (33 TD, 15 INT, 94.7 rating), while leading the Colts to 26.8 PPG (fourth) and a 10-6 record.

2000 postseason – Manning again struggles to get the ball downfield, completing just 53.1% of his passes for 194 yards, 6.1 YPA and an ordinary 82.0 rating. The Colts lose in Miami, 23-17. One and done in the playoffs.

2002 regular season – The Colts are merely ordinary on offense but go 10-6 and earn a wildcard spot behind one of the league's better defenses: 19.6 PPG (7th). They earn a cushy draw against the 9-7 AFC East champion Jets.

2002 postseason – Manning and the Colts come up lame in one of the most dismal offensive performances in modern playoff history. He completes 45.2% of his passes for 137 yards, 4.4 YPA, 0 TD, 2 INT and a 31.2 rating. The Colts are embarrassed by the 9-7 Jets, 41-0. One and done in the playoffs.

2003 regular season – The Colts explode for 27.9 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record and the AFC South crown. Manning wins his first NFL MVP award, sharing the honor with Steve McNair.

2003 postseason – MVP Manning finally enjoys his first postseason success leading the Colts to the AFC title game with a pair of brilliant playoff performances against the Broncos and Chiefs. Then his statistical chariot turned into a pumpkin, with four picks and a 35.5 rating in an ugly 24-14 loss at New England.

2004 regular season – MVP Manning sets the football world abuzz, throwing a record 49 TD passes while leading the Colts to 522 points and a 12-4 record. Manning wins his second consecutive league MVP award.

2004 postseason – Manning is brilliant against the Broncos in the wildcard round, as he was the year before. Then the NFL MVP shits the bed against the Patriots, with just 5.7 YPA, 0 TD, 1 INT and a 69.3 rating in a 20-3 loss. Compared to regular-season production, it is arguably the worst offensive performance in the history of the NFL postseason – at least to that point.

2005 regular season – The mighty Colts are teed up on both sides of the ball to win the Super Bowl: No. 2 in scoring offense (27.4 PPG); No. 2 in scoring defense (15.4), on their way to a brilliant 14-2 record and No. 1 seed in the AFC. It sets up a week rest and a home game against the 11-5 Steelers. By now you know how this story ends.

2005 postseason – Manning didn't exactly shit the bed. But after another brilliant regular season, the offense struggles with its worst performance of the year, producing just 3 points through three quarters. The Colts lose at home to the Steelers, 21-18. One and done in the playoffs.

2006 regular season – The Colts score 26.7 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record.

2006 postseason – Proving that even a blind squirrel can find a nut, Manning throws 3 TDs and 7 INTs in four postseason games, but bumbles his way to his only Super Bowl victory behind Indy's brilliant defensive play (16.3 PPG in postseason). He posts the lowest playoff passer rating of any Super Bowl-winning quarterback.

2007 regular season – The defending champs roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind a prolific offense (28.1 PPG; 3rd) and the league's best defense (16.4 PPG; 1st).

2007 postseason – Manning passes for 402 yards and 3 TDs against the visiting Chargers. But the game turns on two costly INTs in San Diego territory at the end of the first half and at the start of the second half. His third-quarter pass was picked off at the San Diego 3, costing the team critical points in a 28-24 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2008 regular season – The Colts go 12-4, led by a defense that's No. 7 in the NFL in scoring (18.6 PPG). They go on the road in the wildcard round, but get another gimme draw against the 8-8 AFC West champion Chargers. With foil Tom Brady out all year with an injury, the path is paved for Manning and the Colts to win their second Super Bowl.

2008 postseason – Manning doesn't shit the bed. But he hardly looks like the NFL's Most Valuable Player against the average San Diego defense. The Colts struggle to find a groove in a 23-17 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2009 regular season – The balanced Colts go 14-2 behind a strong offense (7th in scoring) and defense (8th), and another MVP performance by Manning (33 TD, 16 INT, 99.9 rating).

2009 postseason – Manning advances to the Super Bowl for the second time in his career. The MVP has a chance to tie the game and cement his legend in the fourth quarter. Instead, his pass his picked off by Tracy Porter, who returns it 74 yards for the game-clinching score. Colts lose to the Saints, 31-17, as Manning is outplayed by Drew Brees.

2010 regular season – The Colts struggle through a 10-6 season, but it's still enough to win the AFC South. Manning throws 33 TD passes and again leads one of the best offenses in football (27.2 PPG).

2010 postseason – Manning plays well, passing for 225 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT and a 108.7 rating on 26 attempts. But his team, as usual, suddenly struggles to score points in a critical game. The Colts lose at home to the Jets, 17-16. One and done in the playoffs.

2012 regular season – Manning's first year in Denver is a great success. The Broncos are stacked on both sides of the ball (No. 2 scoring offense; No. 4 scoring defense), go 13-3 and earn the AFC's No. 1 seed.

2012 postseason – Manning threw a pick-six and an ugly Favre-esque across-his-body overtime INT to seal Denver's fate in a 38-35 loss to the Ravens. The Broncos fail to win a game in which they produced two special teams touchdowns. One and done in the playoffs.

2013 regular season – The Broncos dominate the NFL behind Manning's fifth MVP performance. He throws a record 55 TD passes while leading the first 600-point team in NFL history (606).

2013 postseason – Manning takes shitting the bed to new levels in Super Bowl XLVIII. Hell, he shit all over the floor and the walls, too. Wide-eyed Manning muffs the first snap of the game, handing the Seahawks a gift 2-0 lead. He's picked off in Seattle territory later in the first quarter, and throws a pick-six at the end of the first half.

The greatest offense in NFL history is shutout for nearly three quarters, behind Manning's worst game of the season (5.7 YPA, 73.5 rating). The Denver offense, after scoring 37.9 PPG in the regular season, is humiliated in a 43-8 loss. It is easily the worst postseason offensive performance relative to regular season success in the Super Bowl Era, replacing Manning's 2004 Colts for that dishonor.

Holy crap. And that ends the Manning vs Brady debate.

 

[Halcyon]

Shit throw. Wes Welker is about 5'4" and Brady throws it high and behind him.

He threw it into triple coverage. Welker was able to square his shoulders, get his eyes on the ball, and it hits him in the diamond of his fingers. That ball was an easy grab.

You're just being an asshole.

 

[MechDX]

Psh, he's already there!

That's a younger Nick Cage

 

[DustyVonEric]

Shit throw. Wes Welker is about 5'4" and Brady throws it high and behind him.

LOL. People on here are crazy. This ain't Pop Warner, man.

ANY fan of the game knows if you get your hands on the football, you have to reel it in.

 

[Milchjon]

Totally unrelated, but is FMT's Brett Favre Depreciation thread the longest running thread in GAF history?

First posted in 2006, last post in 2013.

 

[JABEE]

Doesn't matter. Brady still put them in a position to win and no Welker NEEDS to catch that ball.

Let's not even bring up Peytons QB performance
The Cold, Hard Reality: Peyton Manning shits the bed every year in the playoffs

Manning is a prolific Hall of Fame quarterback who will be remembered as one of the all-time great.

But the bottom line is that his otherwise brilliant career is burdened by one undeniable weakness: he shits the bed almost every f*cking year in the playoffs. In fact, based upon regular season production and postseason results, Manning is probably the worst Big Game quarterback of all time, always reserving his worst game of the season for the playoffs.

1997 regular season – Manning is dominant in his final season for the Tennessee Volunteers, passing for 36 TD, 11 INT while leading the team to 32.9 PPG in the tough SEC. The best QB in college football finishes No. 2 in the Heisman voting, behind triple-theat performer Charles Woodson.

1997 postseason – Manning produces just a single TD through three quarters and is benched in the fourth quarter as the talent-laden No. 3 Volunteers get smoked by Nebraska, 42-17. Manning completes 21 of 31 for 131 yards, a dismal 4.2 YPA. He is benched in the fourth quarter for Tee Martin, who leads a scoring drive and then leads stacked Tennessee to the national title the following season.

1999 regular season – The Colts roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind second-year phenom Manning. They score 26.4 PPG, third in the NFL.

1999 postseason – Manning completes just 45.2% of his passes with 5.4 YPA and a 62.3 rating as the Colts lose to the Titans, 19-16, playing at home in the Indy dome no less. One and done in the playoffs.

2000 regular season – Manning is brilliant (33 TD, 15 INT, 94.7 rating), while leading the Colts to 26.8 PPG (fourth) and a 10-6 record.

2000 postseason – Manning again struggles to get the ball downfield, completing just 53.1% of his passes for 194 yards, 6.1 YPA and an ordinary 82.0 rating. The Colts lose in Miami, 23-17. One and done in the playoffs.

2002 regular season – The Colts are merely ordinary on offense but go 10-6 and earn a wildcard spot behind one of the league's better defenses: 19.6 PPG (7th). They earn a cushy draw against the 9-7 AFC East champion Jets.

2002 postseason – Manning and the Colts come up lame in one of the most dismal offensive performances in modern playoff history. He completes 45.2% of his passes for 137 yards, 4.4 YPA, 0 TD, 2 INT and a 31.2 rating. The Colts are embarrassed by the 9-7 Jets, 41-0. One and done in the playoffs.

2003 regular season – The Colts explode for 27.9 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record and the AFC South crown. Manning wins his first NFL MVP award, sharing the honor with Steve McNair.

2003 postseason – MVP Manning finally enjoys his first postseason success leading the Colts to the AFC title game with a pair of brilliant playoff performances against the Broncos and Chiefs. Then his statistical chariot turned into a pumpkin, with four picks and a 35.5 rating in an ugly 24-14 loss at New England.

2004 regular season – MVP Manning sets the football world abuzz, throwing a record 49 TD passes while leading the Colts to 522 points and a 12-4 record. Manning wins his second consecutive league MVP award.

2004 postseason – Manning is brilliant against the Broncos in the wildcard round, as he was the year before. Then the NFL MVP shits the bed against the Patriots, with just 5.7 YPA, 0 TD, 1 INT and a 69.3 rating in a 20-3 loss. Compared to regular-season production, it is arguably the worst offensive performance in the history of the NFL postseason – at least to that point.

2005 regular season – The mighty Colts are teed up on both sides of the ball to win the Super Bowl: No. 2 in scoring offense (27.4 PPG); No. 2 in scoring defense (15.4), on their way to a brilliant 14-2 record and No. 1 seed in the AFC. It sets up a week rest and a home game against the 11-5 Steelers. By now you know how this story ends.

2005 postseason – Manning didn't exactly shit the bed. But after another brilliant regular season, the offense struggles with its worst performance of the year, producing just 3 points through three quarters. The Colts lose at home to the Steelers, 21-18. One and done in the playoffs.

2006 regular season – The Colts score 26.7 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record.

2006 postseason – Proving that even a blind squirrel can find a nut, Manning throws 3 TDs and 7 INTs in four postseason games, but bumbles his way to his only Super Bowl victory behind Indy's brilliant defensive play (16.3 PPG in postseason). He posts the lowest playoff passer rating of any Super Bowl-winning quarterback.

2007 regular season – The defending champs roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind a prolific offense (28.1 PPG; 3rd) and the league's best defense (16.4 PPG; 1st).

2007 postseason – Manning passes for 402 yards and 3 TDs against the visiting Chargers. But the game turns on two costly INTs in San Diego territory at the end of the first half and at the start of the second half. His third-quarter pass was picked off at the San Diego 3, costing the team critical points in a 28-24 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2008 regular season – The Colts go 12-4, led by a defense that's No. 7 in the NFL in scoring (18.6 PPG). They go on the road in the wildcard round, but get another gimme draw against the 8-8 AFC West champion Chargers. With foil Tom Brady out all year with an injury, the path is paved for Manning and the Colts to win their second Super Bowl.

2008 postseason – Manning doesn't shit the bed. But he hardly looks like the NFL's Most Valuable Player against the average San Diego defense. The Colts struggle to find a groove in a 23-17 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2009 regular season – The balanced Colts go 14-2 behind a strong offense (7th in scoring) and defense (8th), and another MVP performance by Manning (33 TD, 16 INT, 99.9 rating).

2009 postseason – Manning advances to the Super Bowl for the second time in his career. The MVP has a chance to tie the game and cement his legend in the fourth quarter. Instead, his pass his picked off by Tracy Porter, who returns it 74 yards for the game-clinching score. Colts lose to the Saints, 31-17, as Manning is outplayed by Drew Brees.

2010 regular season – The Colts struggle through a 10-6 season, but it's still enough to win the AFC South. Manning throws 33 TD passes and again leads one of the best offenses in football (27.2 PPG).

2010 postseason – Manning plays well, passing for 225 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT and a 108.7 rating on 26 attempts. But his team, as usual, suddenly struggles to score points in a critical game. The Colts lose at home to the Jets, 17-16. One and done in the playoffs.

2012 regular season – Manning's first year in Denver is a great success. The Broncos are stacked on both sides of the ball (No. 2 scoring offense; No. 4 scoring defense), go 13-3 and earn the AFC's No. 1 seed.

2012 postseason – Manning threw a pick-six and an ugly Favre-esque across-his-body overtime INT to seal Denver's fate in a 38-35 loss to the Ravens. The Broncos fail to win a game in which they produced two special teams touchdowns. One and done in the playoffs.

2013 regular season – The Broncos dominate the NFL behind Manning's fifth MVP performance. He throws a record 55 TD passes while leading the first 600-point team in NFL history (606).

2013 postseason – Manning takes shitting the bed to new levels in Super Bowl XLVIII. Hell, he shit all over the floor and the walls, too. Wide-eyed Manning muffs the first snap of the game, handing the Seahawks a gift 2-0 lead. He's picked off in Seattle territory later in the first quarter, and throws a pick-six at the end of the first half.

The greatest offense in NFL history is shutout for nearly three quarters, behind Manning's worst game of the season (5.7 YPA, 73.5 rating). The Denver offense, after scoring 37.9 PPG in the regular season, is humiliated in a 43-8 loss. It is easily the worst postseason offensive performance relative to regular season success in the Super Bowl Era, replacing Manning's 2004 Colts for that dishonor.

Manning may struggle in the playoffs, but that doesn't mean that Brady is better than him. Manning has been the better player throughout his entire career. Brady is helped and his chokes are masked by cheating in the first half of his career, which just happens to coincide with his greatest postseason successes.

His three Super Bowls are a sham. Manning may suck in the postseason, but that doesn't change the fact that the Patriots shit the bed in both of those Super Bowls failing to score more than 17 points in both games against huge underdogs.

Brady is someone who is a Hall of Famer, but he's not better than Manning. For as shitty as Manning has played in the playoffs, at least he has a legitimate Super Bowl.

List Manning's entire high school record while you are at it.

It doesn't account for the "defense letting (the Patriots) down in 2007 and 2013."

The offensive juggernaut Pats led by Brady in those seasons were shaken and complete shit in those games. 14 points, 17 points.

Brady threw a shit ball to Welker, and because Brady has three sham Super Bowls, it was Welker who is the fall guy for Boston's untouchable god.

 

[Milchjon]

Manning may struggle in the playoffs, but that doesn't mean that Brady is better than him. Manning has been the better player throughout his entire career. Brady is helped and his chokes are masked by cheating in the first half of his career, which just happens to coincide with his greatest postseason successes.

His three Super Bowls are a sham. Manning may suck in the postseason, but that doesn't change the fact that the Patriots shit the bed in both of those Super Bowls failing to score more than 17 points in both games against huge underdogs.

Brady is someone who is a Hall of Famer, but he's not better than Manning. For as shitty as Manning has played in the playoffs, at least he has a legitimate Super Bowl.

List Manning's entire high school record while you are at it.

It doesn't account for the "defense letting (the Patriots) down in 2007 and 2013."

The offensive juggernaut Pats led by Brady in those seasons were shaken and complete shit in those games. 14 points, 17 points.

Brady threw a shit ball to Welker, and because Brady has three sham Super Bowls, it was Welker who is the fall guy for Boston's untouchable god.

 

[Respect]

grrrrrr CATCH THE BALL WELKER

He's trying to make it up to pats fans...see the bobbled catch turned INT. yesterday to kill any momentum the Broncos had built up early in the 2nd half and the weak "peter" call on the punt in OT last year that gave the pats the win.

(The hit he took to the lower back looked rough.)

 

[LyleLanley]

He's trying to make it up to pats fans...see the bobbled catch turned INT. yesterday to kill any momentum the Broncos had built up early in the 2nd half and the weak "peter" call on the punt in OT last year that gave the pats the win.

It truly is a shame that Welker had to die yesterday to make up for his sin of dropping that ball.

 

[JABEE]

He threw it into triple coverage. Welker was able to square his shoulders, get his eyes on the ball, and it hits him in the diamond of his fingers. That ball was an easy grab.

You're just being an asshole.

No, I'm not being an asshole. That isn't an easy grab. That's like saying the catch Gronk made was an easy grab. Welker's "drop" was off of a bad throw.

LOL. People on here are crazy. This ain't Pop Warner, man.

ANY fan of the game knows if you get your hands on the football, you have to reel it in.

Yes, Brady threw behind Welker. Welker makes a great adjustment on the ball and almost makes a spectacular catch, but he drops it. It was a bad throw. No one will acknowledge that. Any time Brady misses a throw, an analyst will make an excuse for him. It was a shit throw.