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Polyphony Digital (Gran Turismo) hires Mike Caviezel (Forza audio lead)
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Dragoon En Regalia
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I like that PD is cluing into recent criticisms and responding in kind. Hopefully the new car sounds for GT7 won't disappoint like in previous games, though I'm tempering my expectations still. It's better than nothing to have minor improvements, but major improvements, I'm not getting hyped just yet.
eso76
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Megaton if you ask me.
And isn't this the first " western guy" being in a major role at PD ?
Edit: Just read about Evo guy doing the UI, so that's another. Not sure why you'd need some UI professional to at least avoid the blatant mistakes GT5 suffered from, but this is good news too
And isn't this the first " western guy" being in a major role at PD ?
Edit: Just read about Evo guy doing the UI, so that's another. Not sure why you'd need some UI professional to at least avoid the blatant mistakes GT5 suffered from, but this is good news too
Theonik
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GT7Doubt it, it'll probably be a late 2016 game though. And Prologue.
Was supposed to not be happening but this might change if they delay it.I think we might get a time trial demo by the end of 2015 on PSN.
Forza 5 sounds better than GT6 obviously but its not impressive sounding at all. DriveClub's sound is so much better, I don't think there is another game on the market with the same level of authentic car sounds.
Doubt it, it'll probably be a late 2016 game though. And Prologue
Probably. And by then MS will have released four Forza games. Sigh.
The new Dirt game sounds pretty damn phenomenal. Probably the most real sounding I've heard to date.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sHetwzAoqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRwdkIQ7aGo
Doubt it, it'll probably be a late 2016 game though. And Prologue
No, they already killed endurances. Leave as it is since they won't make it more complex anyway.
Drab and lifeless, race tracks. Track asphalt, grass, trees, barriers, sandpits.
Mmmm, you mean add spectators doing stuff like in Nurb 24h?
No, leave the models they can salvage, more cars is good.
GTA and GT6 for some cars.
The new Vision GTI SS is pretty good too.
Blimey, that sounds fab.
cutmeamango
Banned
GT7
I think we might get a time trial demo by the end of 2015 on PSN.
I was joking about the Prologue, what we might get is 2016 GT Academy as an early demo for the game at the end of the year.
Forza 6, FH3, and?
What?
Audio virtualization. I honestly prefer that (with accuracy) than exaggerated sounds inside the car.
I want them to go as realistic as possible. I don't like how many driving games sound like you're sitting under the hood.
Sorry,ni meant since launch. So F5, FH2, F6, FH3.
I'd love a GT prologue or even a GT6HD this year though. Just something to tide me over for a while.
I don't think the Horizon games are fair to include in such a comparison of number of racing game releases. It's a different studio. Driveclub is more comparable to those games.
Then GT6 was released after F5. Should they have released this on PS4 instead? Absolutely. But fact is they didn't.
So that leaves one Forza game, F6, before the eventual release of GT7 on PS4.
Psyrgery ES
Member
Amazing hire for GT7!
I hope this does not mean Forza audio will take a hit, though
I hope this does not mean Forza audio will take a hit, though
SolidSnakex
Member
They've patched GT6 so that you can choose which type of engine audio you want to play. You can choose from
Camera View Dependent (default option)
Standard
Cockpit
Hood
Exterior
You can go into the options while driving and change them until you find one that you like, so you don't have to keep exiting out of the game to test it.
Yep! I think the same.
Holy shit!
Unexpected.
I've always said that PD NEEDED to hire western talent for audio. They've listened. I am now more than hopeful and I am fucking excited about playing Gran Turismo again.
Well fucking done, and about fucking time!
It's in good hands with Nick Wiswell..
Unexpected.
I've always said that PD NEEDED to hire western talent for audio. They've listened. I am now more than hopeful and I am fucking excited about playing Gran Turismo again.
Well fucking done, and about fucking time!
Amazing hire for GT7!
I hope this does not mean Forza audio will take a hit, though
It's in good hands with Nick Wiswell..
TheAdmiester
Member
Do you have any info of its usage in GTA? GTA 5's cars sound amazing whereas the synthesized cars in GT6 don't sound good at all.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
WHATS HAPENNING AT TURN10?!?
Journey
Banned
What do you mean?
Fried Food
Banned
Very promising. Now just confirm G27 support and Morpheus support.
Danlord
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(It's a 'meme' of sorts around NeoGAF regarding situations notably at Naughty Dog where there is/was concern about the studio around the time of notable people leaving the company, such as Amy Hennig for example. It's been regurgitated again and again as a running joke whenever someone leaves a big company)
Thanks champ.
ethomaz
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Theonik
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What's happening at NeoGAF?!
Danlord
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TheAdmiester
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Does this sound way overboosted to you as well, then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtXLhTCknDE
Cars are loud, you know.
Where is the rumour link?
ethomaz
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There are bad sound cars in GT games and I criticize them...
But there are good cars sound too... accurate like real life... Forza cars don't sound real life... any of them and I hear a lot of real life cars.
Yes... cars are loud... Forza make them unrealistic.
Overboosted, inaccurate, rubbish...whatever man. I'd take all that over GT's current sounds any day.
I mean, how can someone truly not be bothered by something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkHE83OjTDM
It boggles the mind..
Me too, I hope they keep the reverb/echo effects too. Maybe even improve them.
https://youtu.be/sNKix-7wdYA
It's not that bad when it's stock. It's usually when you tune the engine that cars sound bad and it really falls apart. Still room for improvement on the stock sounds too though. The above one is the same car with the background music off.
PCars sounds amazing.
ethomaz
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That boggles me too.
But there are accurate sounds in GT too... just not generalize... try to hear the Galardo for example.
The strange thing about GT6 is that there are odd premium cars which sound great when home theatre is selected in the audio options. I mean, they have real presence and bass and an authenticity to their sound. Utimately though, I think Polyphony were held back by the past - PS1 era recordings and sound processing and wanted to make everything blend. Maybe also by RAM. Come to think of it, most of the nice sounding cars were introduced during the hill climb. One car on one short track.
I really wish they had made a clean asset break with 5. GT4 should've remained the museum.
I really wish they had made a clean asset break with 5. GT4 should've remained the museum.
TheAdmiester
Member
The Gallardo in GT is a perfect example of a hideously INaccurate sound. I've seen multiple Gallardos and R8s (same engine) in real life and NFS/Forza are the closest representations of the real sound.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Trouble in paradise
I think some of the newer GT6 cars have great sound because as you said they only recently started to do better audio so some of the newer GT6 cars got them and the older ones kept the less accurate sounds. At least that's the impression I got from this old interview:
ethomaz
Banned
I stopped here... I put a Galardo close to my room and the sound is close to perfection from GT in all gears.
Of course you can say which is game or not but the sound is really accurate.
TheAdmiester
Member
Please explain how this (2:24 or so) sounds anything like a V10.
It doesn't even sound like a car, the closest thing I can liken it to is if you heard a very unhealthy, dying aircooled VW Flat 4.
A lot of these types of videos are extra loud because of the sensitivity of the mics on the phones and devices recording, plus the general acoustics of the environment.
It's not necessarily about loudness either. That you can manage yourself just with the volume. It's more about how accurate it is not just compared to the environmental sounds, but the extent to which the tonality of the different sounds share likeness with the real thing. With regards to Forza itself, Turn 10 hollywoodised a lot of the audio, mixing in lion roars, screams etc to add additional drama. That's not necessarily a bad thing mind, as it still sounds highly satisfying, and still close enough to accurate, it's just that it's not exactly completely accurate either.
One thing I will say is that Forza 5's audio reproduction is still a lot better than Forza Horizon 2's, which sounds more electronic and whiney, but both are head and shoulders above Gran Turismo's, which leans towards an even more artificial flavour.
TheAdmiester
Member
I can understand all of this and I get that they're not entirely accurate, but I just absolutely can't fathom how GT's electronic humming/whining is even close to the sound of any car, let alone supposedly "close to perfection". It might be Hollywood-ised (and I've even used that phrase myself in reference to Forza's sounds), but it's still far, far more accurate than GT has ever been.