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Nikkei: Kojima left Konami today, starting new studio, [Update: Read OP Translation]
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FlashbladeGAF
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I took this to meaning his game would be a timed exclusive, so their would be a possibility for other consoles to get his games
SEGAvangelist
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At least it might come out on time in this scenario!
Chuckwagon
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If Metal Gear Solid V is the direction he's going with his games he can make them exclusive to commodore 64 as far as I'm concerned. That's just my opinion. I know it won't be popular. I also liked Rocky V, so take my opinion however you want.
Prime Kojima vs Prime Miyamoto. Discuss. /jk
I don't think the two are comparable. Kojima deals with a different genre as opposed to Kojima. Would you want an MGS where the ending is they "shake hands"? Just the same I don't want a Mario game where Mario crawls around on a cardboard box.. wait.. KojixMiyamoto crossover please !! But technically they are both great on their respective genre and being compared to one another does not take anything away from that.
While I think you're understating the potential scope of a big-budget AAA exclusive, I agree with your general premise. However, which third parties are going to provide Kojima the creative freedom he wants, big budgets he needs, the Japanese studio space to make it all happen? Konami did because he was with them forever. Who's left?
FlashbladeGAF
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why would anyone want a new IP?
But yeah no one wants an exclusive console only deal
Nameless
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Who's been saying this though? I've seen more posts poo-pooing Console Warzzz the last few pages than actual Console Warring. Being excited that, at the very least, Kojima is making a game for the system you own isn't fanboyism, and there haven't been a lot of people taking it further than that.
Like Phantom Du.. oh wait but seriously dammit Sony your games are already overcooked..
It's also nonsensical.
Has Microsoft ever done something like this? Make acquisitions based on the potential for new IPs? Every other acquisition has been IP based (343 for Halo, Gears, Minecraft). Kojima by himself wouldn't be an interesting proposition.
If Kojima came in gift-wrapped with the MGS IP, then maaaaaaybe I could see it happening.
All of it still speculation and rumor. The Nikkei article is trustworthy but it still hasn't been confirmed by Kojima or Sony or anyone else.
Based on everything so far, my guess is independent studio with a sony timed exclusive on the first game.
Neuromancer
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As much as I enjoy watching MS burn things to the ground in their typically inept matter, I am happy it's not going to happen this time.
RichiRamjag
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Yeah, enough said lol.
timetokill
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lmao wow
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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Yep, get Kojima to work on the very thing he's been trying to escape for over a decade. Great use of talent.
funkystudent
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Its a interesting one.
You could see it behind saved as a E3 reveal or something but I think its one of those cases where its going to get out there anyway so once the ink is signed I can see whoever signs him sending out a press release making it public.
Plus a game probably wont be ready to reveal for over a year so you are not going to keep it secret for that long.
Legal bullshit can take time so I would bet if he is deep in talks already and nothing crazy happens we wont hear about things until early next year.
You know how Kojima is it when it comes to their games and their budget. I just can't see sony pour so much money into a project like his and not get nothing but a timed exclusivity. Unless he has stash of money or runs a kickstarter and Sony just chips in the remaining gap to get the project booted.
I don't know.
Not only that, but if any rumor about a VR game is true, then there's a deadline people are going to want to hit -- early 2017, somewhere, I think. UE4 is VR-ready, and proven with Japanese teams. It makes a lot of sense to go UE4.
RichiRamjag
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That wasn't what he was saying. He was saying that he could only see MS securing a game like this if it came with a an establish IP. Metal gear was the example.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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I know. I'm just saying that would be a terrible thing to do.
Chuckwagon
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haha. I tried.
DangerMouse
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Yup.
Yeah, I could see it either being soon (like E3) or like another year away depending upon whatever Konami's agreement with him is.
Weltall Zero
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I guess it was a given (or not), but it's good to hear that he's hitting the ground running and starting a new studio right away. It's probably the best case scenario even, as, frankly, I think MGS has run its course and cannot tell new stories without retcons, reinterpretations and a good helping of shoehorning, plus having to play a dozen games strewn across five generations (MSX-PS1-PS2-PS3-PS4) to get the whole plot is a bit ridiculous.
Shame that the collaboration with del Toro came before all this mess and not after, it would have had a good shot now, but del Toro seems irreversibly and understandably soured on the whole videogame business.
Shame that the collaboration with del Toro came before all this mess and not after, it would have had a good shot now, but del Toro seems irreversibly and understandably soured on the whole videogame business.
I already envisioned this for a long time, Kojima has a long history working with Sony so when he becomes available, it is only logical that he's contracted to make a killer app for the PlayStation, especially now that the console has good momentum.
I think people should not get excited about silent hills or any other Konami property happening, not even the use of the Fox engine but I'd imagine Sony has enough to bank roll him into making a new engine and a brand new killer game
I think people should not get excited about silent hills or any other Konami property happening, not even the use of the Fox engine but I'd imagine Sony has enough to bank roll him into making a new engine and a brand new killer game
RichiRamjag
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Ahh, yeah. I saw folks on Reddit saying shit about him making a MGS spiritual successor. I was shocked myself lol.
Stone Ocean
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Probably not, I doubt we'll see anything about this until the next major event.
Nameless
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Miyamoto is more prolific, and no doubt has the more influential body of work, but Kojima is absolutely superior in some areas.
KeyChainDude
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Nice, excited to see what his clever lil' diabolic mind will bring to us next! Hopefully he can get a good deal with Sony to have some sweet budget out of the gate.
He doesn't need to. He probably would have to get his own studio together if he goes independent, there would be no shortage of investors and always the possible kickstarter route if needed. It's also possible to work out exclusivity agreements to help with funding. He could go digital only if he wanted and self-publish. He would likely still be extremely successful, no publisher necessary. Marketing could be as trivial as youtube videos and game trailers going viral, or cutting deals with platform holders to do it. There's lots of possibilities.
Black Pewter
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In terms of fame? I'd argue he's above him.
Stilton Disco
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Well this is the best Kojima/Konami related news this year!
Really happy to hear he's free of those bastards shackles and landed instantly on his feet. I'll be there day one to see what he comes up with a bit of creative freedom behind him.
Not surprised in the least by the apparent cooperation with Sony either. Nice PC players are getting it too, and hopefully Xbox down the line. NX would be nice too, assuming Nintendo don't fuck it up of course.
Really happy to hear he's free of those bastards shackles and landed instantly on his feet. I'll be there day one to see what he comes up with a bit of creative freedom behind him.
Not surprised in the least by the apparent cooperation with Sony either. Nice PC players are getting it too, and hopefully Xbox down the line. NX would be nice too, assuming Nintendo don't fuck it up of course.
I leave GAF for a few hours because tons of work, I come back and...
Seeing how some people flipped out at the idea of Kojima working for Sony (which he seemingly isn't, just apparently considering a type of "first") is amazing.
Will have to take time reading the .. oh my, 32 pages...
Seeing how some people flipped out at the idea of Kojima working for Sony (which he seemingly isn't, just apparently considering a type of "first") is amazing.
Will have to take time reading the .. oh my, 32 pages...
Last Prime
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I just want to see what else Kojima can do outside MGS before I put him on that level. Does he have what it takes to redefine a genre other than stealth?
Definitely.
timetokill
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In what? Number of Metal Gear games created?
You can't be serious.
"Guy who created Mario and Donkey Kong" is going to be well ahead of "guy who created game most people have never heard of."
You guys are nuts.
Massive (account) suicides.
Baleoce
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Yeah I fully recognise this fact, and I agree that this is likely to happen. But (and I don't even think this is a particularly popular opinion these days), I'm genuinely more interested to see what he can create over a longer production period with no constraints, than what he can do over a shorter period of time with a publisher breathing down his neck. I'm happy for him to be "that guy" who takes ages and puts out something potentially special. There's enough annualization and mid production and indie etc. to keep me occupied. I like the thought of having a golden goose that surfaces occasionally in the industry. Then again, whose to say that'd even be the case, there's been plenty of cases where long production cycles have been detrimental to the final product. I've no idea!
razgriz417
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After the TR fiasco, I kinda doubt you'll see main claiming the same
RichiRamjag
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Pretty much my thoughts. Metal gear isn't in the same league imo.
Die Squirrel Die
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Whatever the whys and wherefores of when and where his next game appears, hopefully this is an indication that he can quickly move away from Konami's fuckery. The TGA nonsense was making me worried that we had another Patrice Desilet situation brewing.
I leave GAF for a few hours because tons of work, I come back and...
Seeing how some people flipped out at the idea of Kojima working for Sony (which he seemingly isn't, just apparently considering a type of "first") is amazing.
Will have to take time reading the .. oh my, 32 pages...
The back flipping high-fives were amazing too. Seems like people want games on the platform that they mainly game on. That shouldn't be seen as something out of the ordinary.
I am in favor of Kojima going this route but can't you understand why others wouldn't be? The budget would be much smaller, thereby making the game much less lavish and expansive than what he's done in the past. Unless he hits on a Star Citizen funding goldmine, of course.
What you're suggesting might be the way this goes. A smaller independent title with some outside funding. But that doesn't sound like Kojima to me. The man thinks big. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
Krappadizzle
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In making Metal Gear games and what else?
Great Puma
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Oh man, judging by the way Sony let the Last Guardian and Gran Turismo teams take their time, we may not see Kojima's next game for ten years.
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