blood vengeance isn't canon bruh..
It doesn't have to be.
It still demonstrates the character's prowess.
blood vengeance isn't canon bruh..
Why does Kazuya even bother with the tournaments if he can apparently laser all his problems away?
Those lazers get sidestepped all day, imagine what would happen if he met someone who can run around in not a straight line! He would get punished all day then obliged to give Kiryu money like all the other mooks.
How about we compare actual data instead hypothetical stuff?
Stuff like...
Sales Data, series life to date, box art? etc...
You know. Stuff NeoGAF does.
Let's stray away from the GameFAQs stuff lol.
Kiryu has several heat actions that will take out your average goon squad in one go (on normal difficulty at least). Essence of Terror for example.Kazuya can litterally punch through walls and reduce giant robots to bits in seconds. Kiryu is waay cooler, but last time I checked he still required numerous punches just to beat a regular goon. So lets not be crazy here.
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You cant stun lock satan!Kiryu would find a way to Komaki Tiger drop that shit somehow, you know never know until he tries.His moveset has become so ridiculous he can basically stun-lock everything and anyone when he's maxed out.
How about we compare actual data instead hypothetical stuff?
Stuff like...
Sales Data, series life to date, box art? etc...
You know. Stuff NeoGAF does.
Let's stray away from the GameFAQs stuff lol.
Having supernatural anime moves doesnt make you the winner automatically , Has One punch man not taught you plebs anything?
Just like how Cody would body Akuma , and thats a truthfact.
Eastern mysticism is definitely real and has tangible effects on the world in the Yakuza universe. Religious amulets can be worn for damage reduction, stat boosts or other effects (increased odds when gambling for example). And Kiryu's ki / dragon spirit lets him block bullets with his bare hands or move with superhuman speed during certain attacks. There are other characters that have "supernatural" attacks too, like punching the ground and projecting their aura outwards sending nearby enemies flying without ever touching them.That dont exist in yakuza, its just crime drama cheese. Which is fine, but even kryu would be like dont fuck with the mishimas. A tattoo on your back that makes you belive in yourself slightly harder doesn't account for satan. Genetic satan.
Eastern mysticism is definitely real and has tangible effects on the world in the Yakuza universe. Religious amulets can be worn for damage reduction, stat boosts or other effects (increased odds when gambling for example). And Kiryu's ki / dragon spirit lets him block bullets with his bare hands or move with superhuman speed during certain attacks. There are other characters that have "supernatural" attacks too, like punching the ground and projecting their aura outwards sending nearby enemies flying without ever touching them.
This thread will be the root cause for the tournament in Tekken 7. Kazuya gets pissed and starts a new tournament to feed his ego. He then gets bodied by Xiaoyu.
Triangle of Truth right here.Real Answer: Kiryu Kazuma
Kazuya tries to punch or Kick Kiryu? Komaki Dragon Parry to the face.
tbh I think almost anyone from tekken would beat kiryu
It doesn't have to be.
It still demonstrates the character's prowess.
It may or may not be a coincidence, but these characters remind me of one another. Both have been through some pretty extreme circumstances. One of them possesses the ability to become a supernatural entity, but it it does not make him invincible. The other has had to fight dozens of other skilled fighters at once.
not at all. if we're talking in-game, gameplay wise, devil's laser is not completely lethal. it isn't an instant k.o, nor does it do an obnoxious amount of damage most of the time.Kazuya would lazer them both and they would be dead.
Thats what would happen.
That's it
wat u mean barely?In a regular fist fight Kazuya wouldn't even feel his hits because of how much more durability he has. Kiryu is barely peak human, Kazuya even without the devil gene is above that.
g-corp isn't just soldiers, it's scientists whom probably don't know how to fight. and we have seen that kazuya uses firearms too.Kazuya single handledly murdered his way to controlling G-Corporation.
lmao!He can avoid the lasers like every normal ass tekken character can.
oh boy, you couldn't be more wrong. devil =/= godI'm so shocked at this poll. Kazuya is like a god and Kiryu is a super strong gangster.
I dunno man, I think it does have to be. alisa was saying how the devil gene strengthens the cellular compounds to ten times that of a normal human, stuff that was never touched upon in the actual story of the games. it's just kazuya transforming into the devil, that's all. plus the whole story with shin and immortality. none of that has a place in the canon tekken universe.It doesn't have to be.
It still demonstrates the character's prowess.
eh, well this is a character vs a character, not tekken the franchise vs yakuza the franchise. I didn't know where else to post such a poll, but I don't see the harm in it. Everything doesn't have to come down to comparing technical stuff. Plus as others have said, it is kinda fun.How about we compare actual data instead hypothetical stuff?
Stuff like...
Sales Data, series life to date, box art? etc...
You know. Stuff NeoGAF does.
Let's stray away from the GameFAQs stuff lol.
yeah, I didn't think or mean for things to get personal here. It has been quite a fun ride though. Look at the poll!Because it's fun? You know. Stuff people do. lol
I'll agree though, people are getting a tad personal about something that should just be a funny discussion.
haha
not really..I think thats more the power of their will than anything mystic.
Thats about how i interpet it.
Edit: wait whoah whaoh why are we having this argument it doesnt even have to get mystical the tekken 6 intro proves that regular kazuya would kill him with ease.
What's happening here?
one makes you feel the heat, the other does not.One has EWGF, the other does not
i think it is the closest. has there ever been one that was closer?I voted for the 4th Chairman but at the moment (170/174) it's got to be one of the closest polls GAFs ever had.
LOL. in all seriousness though, besides having kazuma kiryu in a playstation allstars game, he should be in tekken.This thread will be the root cause for the tournament in Tekken 7. Kazuya gets pissed and starts a new tournament to feed his ego. He then gets bodied by Xiaoyu.
if kazuya shows up shirtless, kaz'll rip off his. if he's wearing a suit, kaz'll respect that in they'll fight in their finest.Real question..
Does this fight happen before or after Kaz simultaneously rips off his Jacket, shirt and wifebeater?
one would argue that one heat attack from Kazuma would be enough too.Kazuya no question, one EWGF would be enough.
maybe because their voices sound similar, or that the characters themselves kinda look alike, at least before Kazuma's Yakuza 6 redesign.I... I don't see what being able to transform into a devil, and bodying a ton of guys, have to do with one another.
not at all. if we're talking in-game, gameplay wise, devil's laser is not completely lethal. it isn't an instant k.o, nor does it do an obnoxious amount of damage most of the time.
not really.
it's cute that you think kazuma can't get near him, lol. you wanna tell the other 185 people how cute they're being?In game means nothing. All mishima's get nerfed in game. Like akuma, because akuma would actually everyone. That eye problably can kill considering he and his son has blown shit up with it.
To the bottom part, yes really. The tekken 6 intro has dbz level shit it. Its cute you think he could even get near kazuya, but stop. The first post should tekken 6 intro.
Nah Kiryu has super overpowered instant counter moves. It's pretty much impossible to hurt him while he can build up heat and use unblockable heat moves.
also I realized at work today, if you rearranged the letters for "Kazuya" you get "Yakuza"
Yeah...na. You got a pretty warped definition definition of cute. No disrespect but I don't find your argument convincing or compelling. You said gameplay means nothing. Gameplay.Yeah
Him and his son punch so hard gravity tears apart around them. The power level differential in tekken and yakuza is quite great. Even pual, a normal ass human does insane shit in that imtro. He would got bodied rodger jr, not even in the pouch. Un pouched baby roo in tekken would body his ass.
So yeah it is cute. Its fun, these dicussions are fun, they have to be. The actual answer is boring and short winded. Its why some companies even internally leave rival battles ambiguous. Like sonic team, although they leave obvious hints