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XCOM 2 PC performance thread

Karak

Member
turn off SSAO and Bokeh, maybe MSAA as well

also make sure that frame rate smoothing option in video is off, no idea what that does exactly but I noticed it was not good for the frame rate

Weirdness. It absolutely smoothed out our occasional drops.
 

Danj

Member
Any level of MSAA engaged ? If so you might want to lower it to 2x.

I'm a bit taken aback by the hardware demands of this game, admittedly I did not follow it much but looking at it I could not tell it would ask for so much grunt.

turn off SSAO and Bokeh, maybe MSAA as well

also make sure that frame rate smoothing option in video is off, no idea what that does exactly but I noticed it was not good for the frame rate

Yep, that's got it. Knocked MSAA down to 2x, AO down to "Tile AO" and Bokeh to "Simple" and it runs smooth. Thanks!

Though, it makes me wonder about what kind of setup you'd need to be able to turn those things on o_O
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
think its time to turn off afterburner now. I tend to just obcess over every little drop off the corner of my eye with it on, im happy for now, ill check again if we get a patch and I change some settings then

also, the game drops in the weirdest places. drops to 40 for me in the promote screen of all places, its just a fucking model and a stat menu lol
 

samn

Member
Any idea how this would run on a GTX 570m? Not tech savvy so any help would be appreciated. Tried googling but no results.

I can just about run this on a GT 555M at a playable fps (~20) on minimal settings at 768p, so your 570m will be able to run this with 2x as much performance.
 

ViviOggi

Member
i7 5820k
16gb
980gtx
SSD


Game defaulted to max settings @ 1280x720

I upped it to 4k and it was playable with no AA. Not ideal, but completely playable.

GeForce Experience recommended 2560x1600 with 4x MSAA and everything on max except draw distance, which makes sense. (Edit: it ran wonderfully with these settings)

All of my hardware is at stock clocks btw
Define "wonderfully" because no way in hell is a 980 holding a solid 60 across the board at those settings
 

Mutagenic

Permanent Junior Member
So enabling bokeh isn't affecting my framerate at all. Also, after moving my game to my SSD, I'm not really noticing much in the way of gameplay or loading improvements. I would say an SSD is absolutely not necessary for this game.
 

BigTnaples

Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
So what's all this about the game running like shit? Started up this game worried after reading through this thread.


Runs great aside from a few minor hitches here and there, but even the first game had those.

Overall it runs fine.

1440p Max Settinngs aside from AA set to off.

3770k
970 SLI
16Gb Ram
W10

Also. The game looks a generational leap over the first. Looks fantastic, the new lighting, models, Bokeh, etc. very pleasing looking game.


And of course, I failed the second mission spectacularly. Classic XCOM.

Steam Controller working rather well as well.
 

samn

Member
480p baby. Just do it!

Don't tempt me :(

the important thing is the mouse cursor is always 60fps

So enabling bokeh isn't affecting my framerate at all. Also, after moving my game to my SSD, I'm not really noticing much in the way of gameplay or loading improvements. I would say an SSD is absolutely not necessary for this game.

I would guess that much of the loading time is spent generating the maps, which is where CPU would be the bottleneck as opposed to storage.
 

Kudo

Member
So SSD doesn't help with the 2 second pauses after you end turn? Sigh. Here I am contemplating whether I should wait for patches or not.
Still a great game though, enjoying it very much but these performance problems are not really my cup of tea.

BigTnaples, what fps are you getting? The game does run like shit if you want it to look like modern game with more modest GPU, which lots of people (myself included) expected.
I don't know if it's their engine or if it's unoptimized or something, so I won't judge but currently it seems to barely hit stable 60fps with even monster rigs on higher resolutions.

I'm just slightly sad that with i7-6700k and GTX 780 you can't get playable 1440p even if you turn everything to Minimal so I have to play with Max-Med on 1080p.
 

Vex_

Banned
So what's all this about the game running like shit? Started up this game worried after reading through this thread.


Runs great aside from a few minor hitches here and there, but even the first game had those.

Overall it runs fine.

1440p Max Settinngs aside from AA set to off.

3770k
970 SLI
16Gb Ram
W10

Also. The game looks a generational leap over the first. Looks fantastic, the new lighting, models, Bokeh, etc. very pleasing looking game.


And of course, I failed the second mission spectacularly. Classic XCOM.

Steam Controller working rather well as well.


What are your settings. Also, how do your fans sound right now?
 

BigTnaples

Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
What are your settings. Also, how do your fans sound right now?


As I said, all in game settings maxed, aside from AA which is off. 1440p.


Just tried switching to 4K and dropping down Bokeh to Simple and SSAO to Title AO.

I'll report back on how that runs but so far so good.


Also, I always have my fans cranked. My PC is in an entirely seperate room from my TV. So the noise is never an issue.
 

Mutagenic

Permanent Junior Member
So what's all this about the game running like shit? Started up this game worried after reading through this thread.


Runs great aside from a few minor hitches here and there, but even the first game had those.

Overall it runs fine.

1440p Max Settinngs aside from AA set to off.

3770k
970 SLI
16Gb Ram
W10

Also. The game looks a generational leap over the first. Looks fantastic, the new lighting, models, Bokeh, etc. very pleasing looking game.


And of course, I failed the second mission spectacularly. Classic XCOM.

Steam Controller working rather well as well.

Have you even gotten to the extraction mission in the city with the rain? Because that's where I first started to see my performance tank.
 
I'm gonna post my full specs/settings/performance later but so far I've only played the tutorial mission and the first mission with the converter.

I found it really funny how FXAA costs 10-15 FPS (a 2GB 670). Tested on both the main menu and the first mission after the tutorial. Anyone else noticed this or has the same experience ?
 

RS4-

Member
So, what you're saying is: do whatever it takes to get 60, ramp up fan speed, pc in other room.

Should have that on recommended pc specs.

I'll have to check what my settings are on the 970. I'm hitting 50-60, but that is definitely with toned down settings. I don't remember what I switched off hand though.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Rise of the Tomb Raider just got a patch with performance improvements, im sure this will get one sooner rather than later. Half tempted to wait
 

Klyka

Banned
Rise of the Tomb Raider just got a patch with performance improvements, im sure this will get one sooner rather than later. Half tempted to wait

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I never hold out hope for patches,but it's a nice notion :)
 

cripterion

Member
What is it with pre-rendered FMVs on PC games that can't even maintain a solid 30fps, and instead jump around between 28-30? First Witcher 3 now XCOM 2.

I understand why they're here but they suck ass and really need to go.
Often looks worse than regular gameplay if you have a powerful rig, the difference is jarring (Ryse, Witcher 3, Xcom 2 and others).
 

Kudo

Member
I understand why they're here but they suck ass and really need to go.
Often looks worse than regular gameplay if you have a powerful rig, the difference is jarring (Ryse, Witcher 3, Xcom 2 and others).

The FMV's are recorded at 1080p I think, they were blurry mess to me on 1440p.
But that's the least of this games problems currently.
 

epmode

Member
Damn sounds like an unoptimized mess :(

GAF, please stop with the "unoptimized" thing. That's a very tough call for an enduser to make. Seems to me that the framerate troubles are mostly from high-end post-processing effects but dismissing this as "unoptimized" will only prevent developers from including future-proof graphics settings in other games.
 
I7 4690k, 980ti. Turning AA to FXAA and Depth of Field to Simple allows me to hold a steady 60 fps at 1080p in the Avenger and during tutorial missions. It's ok with Bokeh turned on but it does noticeably fluctuate.

Trading SSAO to Tile isn't an exact even trade if I turn Bokeh back on, so it's definitely the big hitter (aside from AA). Not sure if I will keep it like this or not.
 
GAF, please stop with the "unoptimized" thing. That's a very tough call for an enduser to make. Seems to me that the framerate troubles are mostly from high-end post-processing effects but dismissing this as "unoptimized" will only prevent developers from including future-proof graphics settings in other games.
I get random framedrops when there's not much happening and GPU/CPU utilization isn't even maxed out. I might get 45fps while in the armory, then 60fps another time with the same scenario. It's unoptimized, deal with it.
 

Kudo

Member
I was on the edge whether or not I should use "unoptimized" but looking at the video anddo0 linked, yeah it's definitely unoptimized in its purest and clearest form. No way around it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cI4GgGtkeU

Now just I'd like to hear either from devs and/or from Nvidia/Ati that they're working on this.
 

Jintor

Member
I know console UI wasn't their first priority but man this feels really irritating to try and play on my living room PC (not that I have any other kind). Hope controller support comes soon, I haven't seen anything that would absolutely inhibit it so far. Then again, only just finished the tutorial.

The zoom-in/zoom-out on the Avenger is laggy as balls. Any tips besides take down the AA?
 

Random17

Member
I know console UI wasn't their first priority but man this feels really irritating to try and play on my living room PC (not that I have any other kind). Hope controller support comes soon, I haven't seen anything that would absolutely inhibit it so far. Then again, only just finished the tutorial.

The zoom-in/zoom-out on the Avenger is laggy as balls. Any tips besides take down the AA?

That's laggy in general even on reduced settings for me. That and the armory are the two main sources of lag.
 
Issues also with the steam overlay in BPM which is crucial for full controller support. I've had two sessions now where the overlay was inaccessible and I had to restart steam (and XCOM) entirely.

EDIT: now on a full system reboot. The startup splash screen isn't plying nice with BPM.

. . . Now I iust can't get into the game with the overlay working in big picture at all. Fantastic.

EDIT2: looks like disabling RTSS got it back up and running. Unfortunate as that stabilized my frame rates quite a bit
 

Spinifex

Member
Guys, I'm getting this bug constantly and it's driving me nuts, anyone know a fix?


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Had a bunch of these. Dialed back my GPU OC and it seems to have fixed the problem. My OC has previously been solid, not even crashing in the renown killer of stable OC's, Witcher 3.
 

Sanador

Member
Unfortunately I'm not in a position to build a new PC soon. I would definitely play it on PS4, though, if that ever happens.
 
I mean, he never said anything remotely close to this, so?

You won't even get 30 fps with a 970.

Also, you guys really need to stop with the unoptimized talk if you don't even know what the different graphical effects mean and what kind of performance cost they have. Some of you are surprised that bokeh is expensive. I'm sorry but you really need to educate yourselves before speaking about performance issues. Yes, some effects are subtle, but that doesn't mean they don't require a lot.
 

LiK

Member
seems like the game isn't optimized from people's experiences. I'm sure it'll be patched. l i'll probably test it out tonight and see how it runs for me. hope it runs smooth on 1440, if not, i'll settle for 1080

i5 2500k
GTX 970
16GB RAM
SSD
 
You won't even get 30 fps with a 970.

Also, you guys really need to stop with the unoptimized talk if you don't even know what the different graphical effects mean and what kind of performance cost they have. Some of you are surprised that bokeh is expensive. I'm sorry but you really need to educate yourselves before speaking about performance issues. Yes, some effects are subtle, but that doesn't mean they don't require a lot.

The game is definitely unoptimized though and needs a patch.

And I still can't select resolutions above 1080p.

And a mission with fire and rain gave me a whooping 36 average FPS on my 980ti.
 

Freezard

Member
Turned down to minimum from low and I get close to 60 fps on my 7850 compared to 40 fps earlier. Not that you notice much difference regarding graphical quality on the different settings, so it's k I guess.
 
Every time I perform an action I get these freezes/stutters since it hits my CPU to 100%. Even when choosing to move to a new position, it seems like when it calculates the pathfinding (seems like A*) that it's either an incredibly unoptimised calculation or some very weird bug resulting in that performance hit. Happens with other gameplay/AI driven things too. I'm on a 4790k OC'd to 4.6 GHz (I dialed it down to stock, same issue) and MSI 970 4G.
 

cripterion

Member
So what's all this about the game running like shit? Started up this game worried after reading through this thread.


Runs great aside from a few minor hitches here and there, but even the first game had those.

Overall it runs fine.

1440p Max Settinngs aside from AA set to off.

3770k
970 SLI
16Gb Ram
W10

Also. The game looks a generational leap over the first. Looks fantastic, the new lighting, models, Bokeh, etc. very pleasing looking game.


And of course, I failed the second mission spectacularly. Classic XCOM.

Steam Controller working rather well as well.

You mean the first mission with the squad of 4? I lost 3 soldiers on that one cause I got too greedy and tried to get an item and put my operatives near a soon to be exploding truck lol.

By the way disabling Bokeh nets me 10 fps on my 980ti/4790K. All max settings with FXAA @1440p and I hover around 73fps during the missions, 60-104fps depending on the action camera cuts, 59-60fps on the avenger screen but 48fps in the squad loadout menu.
 
I've got a 930m, 8gb of RAM, Windows 10 64-bit and an i7 5500 cpu at 2.4GHZ. I held off on pre-ordering because I was skeptical on how it would run.

Anyone with similar specs? How are you faring?
 

epmode

Member
I don't know why we see these long pauses after performing certain actions in the tactical mode. Like, it takes forever to lose concealment and start the overwatch train after I finally trigger my ambush.
 
I've got a 930m, 8gb of RAM, Windows 10 64-bit and an i7 5500 cpu at 2.4GHZ. I held off on pre-ordering because I was skeptical on how it would run.

Anyone with similar specs? How are you faring?

I'm sorry to tell you this, but a 930m is really bad. A GTX460, which is the minimum requirement, is way more powerful.
 

Stevey

Member
i7 3770k @ 4.2GHZ
EVGA GTX780 Classified
16GB RAM 1600MHZ
Win 10
SSD
1080p 144HZ monitor.
Using these settings- with VSYNC on, no frame smoothing
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Got anything from 67 right up to 144 in the tutorial mission.
Averaged around 70-90.
Getting like 50 in the base.
 
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