I'll be voting IN. More benefit staying than leaving and the OUT campaign is being driven by scaremongering.
Both are being driven by scaremongering.
I'll be voting IN. More benefit staying than leaving and the OUT campaign is being driven by scaremongering.
Yeah, I've heard it is very easy to fix problems with the EU. All 28 member states often are in complete agreement on all the problematic issues, as every state has a very similar set of needs. No one ever vetoes anything, either.If I lived in the UK I'd definitely vote in. It seems cowardly and short sighted to just straight up abandon the most important political experiment of our lifetimes. Maybe the UK should you know - actually get more involved in the EU if they have problems with it? That seems like a novel concept.
-European parliament doesn't get to tell you what to do anymore.
-You will be able to ignore issues like the refugee crisis or the greece crisis.
In short, if you're not part of a community you also don't have to deal with the problems of a community.
-European parliament doesn't get to tell you what to do anymore.
-You will be able to ignore issues like the refugee crisis or the greece crisis.
In short, if you're not part of a community you also don't have to deal with the problems of a community.
Would also save us money. Of course it's a plunge into the unknown somewhat, much like Scotland would've had with their referendum, but as Sammy Wilson, MP for East Antrim, said to paraphrase, if this is a jump into the unknown at least I know there's £12bn in net contributions at the bottom so I'll have a soft landing. Well, it's closer to £8.6bn but you get the jist.
But we are already ignoring the refugee crisis and the Greece crisis now. Even more so with the Greek one because it's a Eurozone issue which we get to stay out of
Both are being driven by scaremongering.
...what?
There's a difference between saying millions of jobs will be lost if we leave compared to saying we will be infiltrated by terrorists and migrants only looking for free benefits if we stay.
Short term - yeah.
Long term - nah.
The UK has a slight advantage over the rest of europe because of the way its economy works(less dependent on export, because the financial sector is so huge), but overall it will be impossible for the UK to stay relevant in the world economy on its own, and that will affect producing industries tremendously in the coming decades.
In.
Honestly don't even know why this vote is a thing.
Honestly don't even know why this vote is a thing.
In the Alternative Voting system referendum we got official posters from the government like this :-
Yes that is an actual advert for the Government backed No campaign. So yeah I am expecting 2 months of the Government telling me my pet will die, my mother will have to be sold into white slavery and I am possibly the worse person on the planet cos I want to leave the corrupt cesspit that is the EU.
The Tories promised they'd do a referendum if they got voted in. It's one of the few pledges they've stuck by.
60 million, compared to 320 million, 1.2 billion and 1.3 billion people. It's like comparing apples to planet sized oranges.
The Tories promised they'd do a referendum if they got voted in. It's one of the few pledges they've stuck by.
I don't know the negatives or positives of either so I don't know.
Anyone have a handy bullet point list that isn't bullshit?
Am I being stupid and mis-remembering something but didn't Cameron want to leave the EU initially?
Am I being stupid and mis-remembering something but didn't Cameron want to leave the EU initially?
You only have to look at the tories that want to leave are odious cunts as a signifier to the company the Out campaigners keep..
This is hilarious when you consider that Jeremy Hunt is sitting with the IN crowd.
Um you haven't heard Cameron talk about "the jungle" have you?
Based on what?
Your faith in humanity hinges upon NeoGafs opinion on the UKs membership of the EU?This thread restores a bit of faith in humanity
I think UK is confident that they alone can be a big player alongside USA, Russia, EU and China.Economic research.
Next to keeping the European nations from killing each other, this is one of the main purposes of the EU.
Back in the 1960s and 1970s politicians talked about how Europe needs to unite politically to stay relevant for the coming centuries.
Back then the world was pretty much a bilateral world with the US on the one side and the UdSSR on the other side and india and china where on the way to becoming economic powerhouses.
The european countries by themselfs are too insignificant to be big players, thatswhy they need to unite politically and financially.
And then there are problems that can only be fixed when european nations work to together, like for example the refugee crisis right now.
Yes, and again, although that's unlikely, it's a far more grounded claim than the uncontrolled immigration argument from the out campaigners.
What? Cameron wants to stay in. It will define his leadership. He wants to be remembered as the PM that kept the UK in.
Your faith in humanity hinges upon NeoGafs opinion on the UKs membership of the EU?