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Eurogamer: Sony's PSN made more money than all of Nintendo last fiscal year

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AniHawk

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jroc74 said:
Dayum.....

On that note, seeing this do anyone really think Nintendo wont charge for online?
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i think they will have to just to get a solid consumer base they can rely on. what they offer in it might be different from the competition, but they've been doing a lot of online multiplayer recently so it's hard to say. splatoon, smash, and mario kart might be a good ransom in order to get people to commit to the service.
 
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Lace

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I Wanna Be The Guy said:
Hitting their marketing out of the park, sure. Shame almost everything else has gone downhill since they released the PS4.
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Not sure I follow on that. Are you referring to the quality of games has decreased? I would agree that playstation plus has become a much weaker program. However, the first party output and the communication with fans has been pretty great.
 
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kirby_cholo

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jroc74 said:
Dayum.....

On that note, seeing this do anyone really think Nintendo wont charge for online?
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I think Nintendo is not in a good position to do that.

they already have the public opinion against them. Microsoft and Sony had the customers basically worshiping them when they took that decision.

maybe if Nintendo includes free virtual console with that or something... otherwise, I think it's suicidal.
 
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Kyoufu

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I Wanna Be The Guy said:
Hitting their marketing out of the park, sure. Shame almost everything else has gone downhill since they released the PS4.
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Such as? Since you're saying "almost everything" then I expect a long list and not just "PS+ is shit now".

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I Wanna Be The Guy said:
When Sony's backs were against the wall with the PS3 they released killer title after killer title after killer title. Their first party lineup in the latter years of the PS3 were godly. They were creative. They came up with the greatest subscription service ever in PS Plus and provided ridiculous value.

Then they released a successful system, the quality of their first party software went to absolute shit, and their awesome subscription service became another shitty cashgrab after locking online play behind it. It's also worth noting that the reason PS3 was so bad at the start was purely because of the success of the PS2.

Sony had to get humbled to get good again. The same looks like it needs to happen again, but that sadly won't be happening for a long time.
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Aside from PS+ not being what it used to be, that's a lot of hyperbole there. I'm out.
 
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kaching

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I Wanna Be The Guy said:
When Sony's backs were against the wall with the PS3 they released killer title after killer title after killer title. Their first party lineup in the latter years of the PS3 were godly. They were creative. They came up with the greatest subscription service ever in PS Plus and provided ridiculous value.

Then they released a successful system, the quality of their first party software went to absolute shit, and their awesome subscription service became another shitty cashgrab after locking online play behind it. It's also worth noting that the reason PS3 was so bad at the start was purely because of the success of the PS2.

Sony had to get humbled to get good again. The same looks like it needs to happen again, but that sadly won't be happening for a long time.
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Hyperbole. Hyperbole everywhere.
 
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Amgash

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kirby_cholo said:
one more nail!

we're so close!
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jemiola

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Latest Nintendo data:

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We have focused on expanding the digital business, both to keep up with changes in the industry and as a new business opportunity. This shows that we have made steady progress in the digital sphere.
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This slide shows the download sales shown by region for the last two fiscal years.
Sales for the fiscal year ended March 2016 have expanded in all regions compared to the prior year. We have seen a particular jump in sales in the Americas, represented by the yellow bar.
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Source: Financial Results Briefing for Fiscal Year Ended March 2016 Apr. 28, 2016
 
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Shin-Ra

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The Artisan said:
better than xbl last gen?
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PSN won't elevate to XBL levels of greatness until they stuff ads into the primary-focus areas of the OS.

generic_username said:
Yes. The ability to share and upload videos this easily alone elevates it for me.

The store still sucks in the sense that it is hard to find content that you are looking for without doing a search everytime but otherwise yeah psn has been freaking awesome.
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The ability to SHARE captured media could always be locked behind PS+ as well!
 
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jroc74

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About Nintendo not charging for online...

Sony saw the money left on the table thats why they charged on PS4. With an asterisk....because F2P doesnt need Plus.

Nintendo could do something similar as not charging for all online play but some.

If Nintendo does charge I have to believe they wont charge for F2P too. Especially with them dipping into mobile.

I agree it is risky tho. All this just makes me curious about what NX will be, do.
 
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BHK3

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kaching said:
Hyperbole. Hyperbole everywhere.
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Kyoufu said:
Such as? Since you're saying "almost everything" then I expect a long list and not just "PS+ is shit now".

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Aside from PS+ not being what it used to be, that's a lot of hyperbole there. I'm out.
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jroc74 said:
About Nintendo not charging for online...

Sony saw the money left on the table thats why they charged on PS4. With an asterisk....because F2P doesnt need Plus.

Nintendo could do something similar as not charging for all online play but some.

If Nintendo does charge I have to believe they wont charge for F2P too. Especially with them dipping into mobile.
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I highly doubt they will ever charge for online, considering the amount of online games Nintendo makes is Smash and Mario Kart. I'll include Splatoon as well since we're shoe in for a sequel for NX.
 
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test_account

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I Wanna Be The Guy said:
When Sony's backs were against the wall with the PS3 they released killer title after killer title after killer title. Their first party lineup in the latter years of the PS3 were godly. They were creative. They came up with the greatest subscription service ever in PS Plus and provided ridiculous value.

Then they released a successful system, the quality of their first party software went to absolute shit, and their awesome subscription service became another shitty cashgrab after locking online play behind it. It's also worth noting that the reason PS3 was so bad at the start was purely because of the success of the PS2.

Sony had to get humbled to get good again. The same looks like it needs to happen again, but that sadly won't be happening for a long time.
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Sony couldnt know that the PS4 would be the success that it turned out to be though, so its not like they could start slacking, they must have continued to push from the PS3-era to make sure that they didnt get in that position again instead.

I also think its kind of a "paradox", that if a company needs to do badly/being pushed against the wall to do good, and if they are being good, then they are becoming bad hehe. So basically they need to do badly all the time to be good :) And in that case, they wont get enough reward for their hard work, i doubt that you would want that. I know what you mean, but Sony did work hard to make the PS4 being the success that it is today. That wont happen on itself. And liking the games or not is a subjective thing, as Inuhanyou mentioned.
 
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Boke1879

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Most impressive and just a sign of where gaming is headed. Seriously their Online network made more money. I'm sure most of those are Plus subscriptions, but with people adopting digital more and more it makes sense.

It's also lets me know going forward Sony and MS will do all they can to keep you in this ecosystem.
 
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ConciseCarp

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Maybe someone can help me.....

I can't see anything in the OP that confirms that PSN made more money than Nintendo...I can see more sales, but I think the profit figure is for all of the video game side of Sony, not just PSN.

I'm not saying that it didn't make more, but I don't think the figure it did make is in the OP.

Am I missing something?
 
DeepEnigma

DeepEnigma

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Boke1879 said:
Most impressive and just a sign of where gaming is headed. Seriously their Online network made more money. I'm sure most of those are Plus subscriptions, but with people adopting digital more and more it makes sense.

It's also lets me know going forward Sony and MS will do all they can to keep you in this ecosystem.
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This.
 
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Justified

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ConciseCarp said:
Maybe someone can help me.....

I can't see anything in the OP that confirms that PSN made more money than Nintendo...I can see more sales, but I think the profit figure is for all of the video game side of Sony, not just PSN.

I'm not saying that it didn't make more, but I don't think the figure it did make is in the OP.

Am I missing something?
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Re-read the first 2 sentences in the quote. One says PSN, he other says the whole of Nintendo

Hoje0308 said:
So Zhuge is good enough for Eurogamer, who is good enough for GAF, but Zhuge isn't good enough for GAF? I'm confused.
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Eurogamer didnt get its numbers from Zhuge, but from open financial reports.

EG just hat tipped Zhuge since he was the first to point it out
 
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ConciseCarp said:
Maybe someone can help me.....

I can't see anything in the OP that confirms that PSN made more money than Nintendo...I can see more sales, but I think the profit figure is for all of the video game side of Sony, not just PSN.

I'm not saying that it didn't make more, but I don't think the figure it did make is in the OP.

Am I missing something?
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There was a more expansive post posted in the other thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=202109329#post202109329
 
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Hoje0308

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Justified said:
Re-read the first 2 sentences in the quote. One says PSN, he other says the whole of Nintendo



Eurogamer didnt get its numbers from Zhuge, but from open financial reports.

EG just hat tipped Zhuge since he was the first to point it out
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Which is the exact same place Zhuge got his, and the article wouldn't exist if he hadn't pointed out the relationship. My point is that the guy's info contributes a lot to this site and yet he's being treated like a pariah, when other outlets clearly feel differently.
 
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Harlequin

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Obliterator said:
....you can't be the source for seeing something in a financial report. Anyone can do it. I could go do it right now. You could go do it. Anyone can.
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No, you definitely can be a source for doing that. I mean, almost anyone could write an article or, hell, a book, too. (Of course, not everyone can write a good article or book but that's besides the point.) Does that mean that articles and books no longer count as sources? Just because "anyone could do it" theoretically speaking, doesn't mean that no effort or brainpower went into doing it.

I mean, what do financial analysts do? They see numbers in a financial report, put those numbers into a context and draw conclusions from that. Sure, what he did here isn't a proper financial analysis but still, it's also just "seeing something in a financial report" by your logic.

The interesting question, of course, is at how much or how little effort one draws the line here. How obvious or non-obvious can something be to still be considered an original thought, so to speak. And that's where we get into IP/copyright law territory (not because anyone did anything illegal but because that's where this problem has been discussed/explored extensively).
 
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Justified

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Hoje0308 said:
Which is the exact same place Zhuge got his, and the article wouldn't exist if he hadn't pointed out the relationship. My point is that the guy's info contributes a lot to this site and yet he's being treated like a pariah, when other outlets clearly feel differently.
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The information isnt the issue, its the direct quote of a perma banned member that is.

I too, wish Zhuge, and HolyBakial could come back
 
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ConciseCarp

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Justified said:
Re-read the first 2 sentences in the quote. One says PSN, he other says the whole of Nintendo
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I did read the quote. The first two sentences talk about sales, not profit. The profit mentioned for 'Playstation' in the third sentence is for the whole video game unit, not just PSN.

So I guess I'm after the profit figure for just PSN, as that is the figure which confirms the title of the OP.
 
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Jigorath

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That's kind of hilarious.

I feel more and more strongly that Nintendo could make the jump to charge for online multiplayer with their NX console, there's a metric shit-ton of money to be made here.
 
Majukun

Majukun

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Yeah, we get it, Nintendo screwed up really bad lately.

sad thing is many people, not at the helm of an huge corporation, we're able to predict that Nintendo was making a big series of mistakes...
 
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Justified

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ConciseCarp said:
I did read the quote. The first two sentences talk about sales, not profit. The profit mentioned for 'Playstation' in the third sentence is for the whole video game unit, not just PSN.

So I guess I'm after the profit figure for just PSN, as that is the figure which confirms the title of the OP.
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Ahh ok. I updated the OP with Donnie's breakdown
 
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CronoShot

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Sony listens to both developers and fans, launches a console everyone likes, and makes a lot more money than the company that does neither.

Who knew.
 
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