If Sony is struggling to meet Scorpios specs at 500 then Microsoft must be using its deep pockets and planning on selling Scorpio at a large loss in order to gain market share back.
The funny thing is Osiris is Kinda suggesting that the Neo option B would be more than $500.00. meaning 5.5TF and better CPU. So if Neo option B is $600.00 then Scorpio would be $700.00 or more.
TIL 0.52 TFlops = 1.8 TFlops.
I'm sorry but this is how percentages work, if the scorpio is 6TF and the Neo 5.48TF, the difference would be much less than 40%. In any case, DF made the distinction and those percentages aren't wrong, I was only attacking the mixed messaging from them.
The difference is measured in flops, not percentages. Computing doesn't give a shit about percentages. PS4's advantage translates into a few more frames per second here and there, a bit better res in some games. That's typically about it. The delta between PS4K and Scorpio is almost 4 times as large as between PS4/X1.
4 times? Are you serious, you need to review your math again. Even if Sony agrees to a 4.2TF GPU, the Scorpio is no where close to 4 times better than NEO. I think you should go over the details. Hell, not even long ago we had the Scorpio GPU pegged as a polaris part just like NEO. It could simply be that the Scorpio had their GPU clocked much higher than NEO, since they have had traditionally had bigger boxes to house their chipsets and cooling solutions. With MS giving some vague details on NEO yesterday, where most of it was already leaked "like the 6TF". There's no new details MS gave yesterday to justify a shift from "it's a Polaris part to a Vega part" stance from DF. If there was more details on the GPU, fine, but that was certainly not the case.
Please understand, that I'm not disregarding the Scorpio GPU being a Vega part entirely. In all likelihood it may very well be a Vega GPU, given AMD's timeline and the time of Scorpio's launch, however, there are other things to consider.....Vega will be a larger part than polaris since they are going with 4096 stream processors to combat high end Nvidia cards, we are also talking faster memory and also more memory in excess of 8GB, of course Vega is being fabbed with HBM2 in tow, a higher TDP than 150watts is most definitely a possibility. So maybe a low-watt vega is on the cards for consoles, but it gives me pause because Vega has always been touted as AMD"S flagship GPU for next year. So I'm not sure how that's going to work out for a low-watt console box.
So if you believe I'm saying that Vega will be in Neo and not in Scorpio, I'm definitely not saying that. There's a higher chance that Scorpio has a Vega part than Neo, but only if NEO launches much sooner than Scorpio.
crab Rangoon said:
No, MS is absolutely not 'maintaining' that message. They have literally said the polar opposite. Go check that thread to catch up (read the OP).
I've also been reading the thread where Phil was questioned on making games exclusive for Scorpio and he said that it rests on developers and that there is no hard rule on which platform they should choose.
crab Rangoon said:
...rumored by whom? Osiris's info was Q1 2017 iirc. Got a link by chance?
Just google the rumor, you'll get it, Ummm.....
http://www.techpowerup.com/222403/amd-pulls-radeon-vega-launch-to-october
http://videocardz.com/59808/amd-vega-gpu-allegedly-pushed-forward-to-october
http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/92747-amd-vega-launch-brought-forward-october-says-report/
Rumor is that they plan to launch Vega 10 with Battlefield 1 in OCT 2016.
crab Rangoon said:
Excuse me, but wtf? There is literally no more qualified group of folks to talk on this matter than actual devs targeting Scorpio. Thank god you are here to clear up the nonsense coming from these devs. /s
I'm sure they are qualified to say what they are saying, but as a consumer I am also qualified to say that a dev who constantly releases games with a million bugs, framerate reaching 0fps amongst many man many other issues, that you'll give them a Computer that even the most insatiable compute-hungry engineer at NASA would look at with glee and Bethesda will still find a way give you slowdown, stutter and framerate issues.
That was an ad more than anything from MS and it means nothing till we start seeing real games on the system from these devs. I take it you were not around when similar things were said about the XB1.