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[orthodoxy1095]

I know it'd be a huge loss to me. Maybe not to you. And I didn't emphasize all residents, really only meant the ones who threw the balloons and eggs.

It would be a loss to me.

But I'm not a socially unaware dimwit who would congregate outside of people's residences late at night because of a mobile game. So I would never be in that situation.

Let me play a funeral march for anyone whose phone was destroyed.

 

[Cocaloch]

It would be a loss to me.

But I'm not a socially unaware dimwit who would congregate outside of people's residences late at night because of a mobile game. So I would never be in that situation.

Let me play a funeral march for anyone whose phone was destroyed.

You can be aware that people on two different sides of the same issue are behaving poorly. People being stupid isn't a carte blanche for being an ass in retaliation.

 

[Florida_Man_5000]

Part of me find this funny.. reminds me of the 90s when teens would mass congregate at malls and places around town. It's like we forgot what this was.

Wait people are like outside chilling with each other? Wtf.. go home and watch TV you filthy outsiders.

We forgot how to socialize and in turn compromise. Now we got Trump vs Hilary. Pikachu for Prez!

 

[orthodoxy1095]

You can be aware that people on two different sides of the same issue are behaving poorly. People being stupid isn't a carte blanche for being an ass in retaliation.

If they broke your phone, go file a police report.

But don't expect me to give a shit about you.

I can't wait for some nitwit to go into the Holocaust Museum or Ground Zero Memorial and provoke someone into breaking their phone.

 

[Florida_Man_5000]

If they broke your phone, go file a police report.

But don't expect me to give a shit about you.

I can't wait for some nitwit to go into the Holocaust Museum or Ground Zero Memorial and provoke someone into breaking their phone.

Everything is offensive to someone but that doesn't justify a personal physical assault (taking phone forcibly).

 

[Cocaloch]

If they broke your phone, go file a police report.

But don't expect me to give a shit about you.

I can't wait for some nitwit to go into the Holocaust Museum or Ground Zero Memorial and provoke someone into breaking their phone.

This attitude enables violence in situations where it is even less warranted than in this one. Enabling violence, especially in situations that are as trivial as these, is probably very rarely prudent.

 

[Rich!]

Everything is offensive to someone but that doesn't justify a personal physical assault (taking phone forcibly).

Of course it does.

If I'm out with my girlfriend, for example, and some dude comes up and calls her an ugly whore, hes getting a fist in the face and a broken nose.

You cannot go about pissing people off and being a cunt without expecting REAL consequences. As I said before, I swear half this board live in cloud cuckoo land.

 

[The_Kid]

If they broke your phone, go file a police report.

But don't expect me to give a shit about you.

I can't wait for some nitwit to go into the Holocaust Museum or Ground Zero Memorial and provoke someone into breaking their phone.

I mean, they're in a public space, not going into people's apartments. Having things hurled at them is totally uncalled for. If you have a problem with the noise, have the police deal with it instead of assaulting people with eggs and balloons.

Of course it does.

If I'm out with my girlfriend, for example, and some dude comes up and calls her an ugly whore, hes getting a fist in the face and a broken nose.

You cannot go about pissing people off and being a cunt without expecting REAL consequences. As I said before, I swear half this board live in cloud cuckoo land.

And the response to that, if there are witnesses, is you probably going to jail.

 

[Cocaloch]

Of course it does.

If I'm out with my girlfriend, for example, and some dude comes up and calls her an ugly whore, hes getting a fist in the face and a broken nose.

You cannot go about pissing people off and being a cunt without expecting REAL consequences. As I said before, I swear half this board live in cloud cuckoo land.

I mean you can do that, but you probably shouldn't. Also what happens when the guy is much bigger and stronger than you? Is he just allowed to do as he pleases? We don't live in the war of all against all. Violence should not be the go to option, that's a losing game for everyone.

 

[Florida_Man_5000]

Of course it does.

If I'm out with my girlfriend, for example, and some dude comes up and calls her an ugly whore, hes getting a fist in the face and a broken nose.

You cannot go about pissing people off and being a cunt without expecting REAL consequences. As I said before, I swear half this board live in cloud cuckoo land.

Pretty anecdotal response to topic. But what you're saying is violence is fair when family honor is involved. In some cultures and corresponding laws in this world, that's fair, but how does this relate to pokey hunters congregating in public again?

 

[Rich!]

Pretty anecdotal response to topic. But what you're saying is violence is fair when family honor is involved. In some cultures and corresponding laws in this world, that's fair, but how does this relate to pokey hunters congregating in public again?

1. It would be outside my house in a residential area, keeping the entire row of flats awake with no regard for my family, my work or my life. The same would be for every other resident.

2. There is no 2. But seemingly you'd be fine if I go to your house and gather up a party of a hundred people to scream and shout and make noise each night until further notice. You wouldn't respond at all? Ha!

 

[Cocaloch]

But seemingly you'd be fine if I go to your house and gather up a party of a hundred people to scream and shout and make noise each night until further notice. You wouldn't respond at all? Ha!

He didn't say anything about this. You can respond in non-violent ways.

 

[Rich!]

He didn't say anything about this. You can respond in non-violent ways.

*You* may respond in a non violent way. However, thinking that is the norm for people to act in these kinds of situations in this world is incredibly naive.

 

[Darryl]

I used to live next door to a large homeless shelter (like the gathering spot was immediately outside my window) and lived with the noise for years. I never complained. I'm a firm believer that our 9-5AM wake work and sleep by 11 is ok for a lot of people, but it isn't a one size fits all for a lot of people. People should be allowed to exist at night time.

I'm sorry these guys paid a lot of money for probably expensive houses and now have to wear ear plugs. But I'd be sorrier to kick a bunch of people out of a public park. Plenty of them are probably hyper-sensitive, nervous, and socially nervous individuals who probably couldn't get themselves to that park any other way. Going to a public park in the day time can be an incredible stress for a lot of people. This exercise and social activity could be doing fucking miracles for those guys.

 

[RootCause]

The great Pokemon crisis. We've seen it all. :3

 

[orthodoxy1095]

I mean, they're in a public space, not going into people's apartments. Having things hurled at them is totally uncalled for. If you have a problem with the noise, have the police deal with it instead of assaulting people with eggs and balloons.

Being in a public space isn't an open invitation to make noise and disturb nearby residents.

This attitude enables violence in situations where it is even less warranted than in this one. Enabling violence, especially in situations that are as trivial as these, is probably very rarely prudent.

People's sleep and their peace and quiet is hardly a trivial thing.

I used to live next door to a large homeless shelter (like the gathering spot was immediately outside my window) and lived with the noise for years. I never complained. I'm a firm believer that our 9-5AM wake work and sleep by 11 is ok for a lot of people, but it isn't a one size fits all for a lot of people. People should be allowed to exist at night time.

I'm sorry these guys paid a lot of money for probably expensive houses and now have to wear ear plugs. But I'd be sorrier to kick a bunch of people out of a public park. Plenty of them are probably hyper-sensitive, nervous, and socially nervous individuals who probably couldn't get themselves to that park any other way. Going to a public park in the day time can be an incredible stress for a lot of people. This exercise and social activity could be doing fucking miracles for those guys.

Oh my God.

You're allowed to exist at nighttime. Congregating in groups of hundreds near a residential area isn't merely "existing." It's causing a public disturbance.

And come on. A comparison to a homeless shelter? Really? Because a bunch of goobers playing a game on their smartphones is really equivalent to that.

 

[blackflag]

Is there some kind of advantage to playing this so late?

Well in phoenix here it is typically 110+ during the day. So that would be one depending on where you live. There are tons of people at the parks at night and the other night at Tempe town lake there were probably over a thousand people playing it. Was some craziness I never saw.

Everyone was super friendly though and a lot of people were out walking that clearly needed the exercise.

 

[Death Penalty]

Being in a public space isn't an open invitation to make noise and disturb nearby residents.

People's sleep and their peace and quiet is hardly a trivial thing.

Oh my God.

You're allowed to exist at nighttime. Congregating in groups of hundreds near a residential area isn't merely "existing." It's causing a public disturbance.

And come on. A comparison to a homeless shelter? Really? Because a bunch of goobers playing a game on their smartphones is really equivalent to that.

The simple fact is that assault just isn't okay. I'm not protecting the people disturbing the peace- they need to be dispersed and taught some manners without a doubt. But there were plenty of reasonable solutions available and some of these residents did not pick the right one. You can see both sides here.

Of course it does.

If I'm out with my girlfriend, for example, and some dude comes up and calls her an ugly whore, hes getting a fist in the face and a broken nose.

You cannot go about pissing people off and being a cunt without expecting REAL consequences. As I said before, I swear half this board live in cloud cuckoo land.

Resorting to violence is not only unacceptable for an adult it's outright juvenile. Sorry this is the way you solve your problems, but I can readily tell you that no this isn't the norm. Around here you'd go to jail if someone called the cops, and they'd be well within their rights to even if they were being assholes.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

I hope there's a followup story on this soon.

I'd love to know if the police threat will actually stop all the dweebs from congregating later.

Break out the Super Soakers next time if the cops can't handle it.

 

[Cocaloch]

People's sleep and their peace and quiet is hardly a trivial thing.

It's absolutely trivial relative to the things that I consider warrant violence.

 

[Florida_Man_5000]

I hope there's a followup story on this soon.

I'd love to know if the police threat will actually stop all the dweebs from congregating later.

Break out the Super Soakers next time if the cops can't handle it.

People outside socializing, exercising and congregating are by rule breaking the nerd social norm. But calling them nerds or dweebs from your window puts you squarely in the old man yells at kids on lawn norm.

 

[Permanently A]

Can't the cops just kick everyone out after 10 PM or something? Doesn't seem like a thousand people would simultaneously exit on their own without a push.

 

[dubq]

I think some common decency is called for. These Pokemon Go users wouldn't like the situation to happen to them, so why inflict it on others?



It's winter here, so you're right both literally and figuratively.

Winter. In Australia. Isn't that like 17C?

 

[RedAssedApe]

it would be kind of cool if you could get everyone in one of these college towns to meet up to catch pokemon at one location lol

 

[orthodoxy1095]

People outside socializing, exercising and congregating are by rule breaking the nerd social norm. But calling them nerds or dweebs from your window puts you squarely in the old man yells at kids on lawn norm.

Ok.

 

[JayBabay]

They should arrest the residents for assault.

Not fond of people thinking they own public spaces.

Okay man, this is absolutely the last place you would ideally apply this rebel attitude/free spirited/expressing my freedom type of thinking. This many people outside of your home, that late at night, making excessive noise and attracting the types of people that peddle phone chargers!? This is not good for any neighborhood and I actually play the game as well.

 

[martinstraka8282]

Lol count me in as someone who would be responding with Water balloons... after I had called the Popo and they had once again proved their incompetence. Actual physical violence would be taking it too far but calling this assault is a stretch. The cops do not need to be involved in everything, nor are they willing to in my experience.

People are too sensitive. One person is a dick, so someone else responds in frustration and everyone is up in arms about the original persons rights.

 

[Death Penalty]

Lol count me in as someone who would be responding with Water balloons... after I had called the Popo and they had once again proved their incompetence. Actual physical violence would be taking it too far but calling this assault is a stretch. The cops do not need to be involved in everything, nor are they willing to in my experience.

People are too sensitive. One person is a dick, so someone else responds in frustration and everyone is up in arms about the original persons rights.

Seems to me that both parties are in the wrong. The people massing outside of a residential building and disturbing the peace are being extremely inconsiderate, but that really doesn't excuse throwing things at them. This is absolutely a matter for the police, if we're talking about a gathering hundreds strong that's disturbing the peace. Heck if they're uncooperative and repeat the incident, throw some in jail for a night or two to teach them some manners. And these Pokestops definitely need to be removed, as well.

 

[Darryl]

Being in a public space isn't an open invitation to make noise and disturb nearby residents.

People's sleep and their peace and quiet is hardly a trivial thing.

Oh my God.

You're allowed to exist at nighttime. Congregating in groups of hundreds near a residential area isn't merely "existing." It's causing a public disturbance.

And come on. A comparison to a homeless shelter? Really? Because a bunch of goobers playing a game on their smartphones is really equivalent to that.

I'm not comparing it to anything. I said I lived near a homeless shelter to show I have experience living near tons and tons of noise, and I show no sympathy for people who show no sympathy.

Its just a video game. People will disperse in a few days after the trend ends. Let the kids go outside and make some fucking friends. That's way more important than a couple entitled people nimbying people having fun. Wear fucking ear plugs and let others enjoy themselves.

 

[redcrayon]

I'm not comparing it to anything. I said I lived near a homeless shelter to show I have experience living near tons and tons of noise, and I show no sympathy for people who show no sympathy.

Its just a video game. People will disperse in a few days after the trend ends. Let the kids go outside and make some fucking friends. That's way more important than a couple entitled people nimbying people having fun. Wear fucking ear plugs and let others enjoy themselves.

Jesus wept. People have families, the whole world isn't a bunch of young adults with sod-all responsibilities. If you ever have young children you'll understand why hundreds of people shouting and having a street party outside your home after their bedtime is not something where you can just put your personal earplugs or headphones on for a few weeks and ignore, or a case of 'nimby'-ism. Some residents are responsible for others. It's a shame these Pokemon players lack the social skills to understand that residential areas tend to be quieter at night, where hundreds of people of all ages, the youngest of whom need 12 hours sleep and a lot of work to get them to bed, are trying to sleep. Not to mention people who've been working long shifts, or struggle to sleep for whatever reasons.

In the first few days of my daughter's life my neighbours played loud music for just three days and it was enough to send me round the twist despite polite enquiries, the baby screaming and my wife left exhausted and in tears. On the fourth day I called the police. By the fifth day I was ready to go and smash their bloody stereo, and the health visitor offered to join in. I guess the neighbours were just 'making friends'. It all ended after that, but this is likely to go on all summer. Kids making pokemon friends through the latest social media craze after dark isn't more important than letting families sleep.

 

[Astral Dog]

Now Pokemon are on Holocaust Museums

 

[Darryl]

Jesus wept. People have families, the whole world isn't a bunch of young adults with sod-all responsibilities. If you ever have young children you'll understand why hundreds of people shouting and having a street party outside your home after their bedtime is not something where you can just put your personal earplugs or headphones on for a few weeks and ignore, or a case of 'nimby'-ism. Some residents are responsible for others. It's a shame these Pokemon players lack the social skills to understand that residential areas tend to be quieter at night, where hundreds of people of all ages, the youngest of whom need 12 hours sleep and a lot of work to get them to bed, are trying to sleep. Not to mention people who've been working long shifts, or struggle to sleep for whatever reasons. In the first few days of my daughter's life my neighbours played loud music for just three days and it was enough to send me round the twist despite polite enquiries, the baby screaming and leave my wife in tears. I guess they were just 'making friends'.

Kids making pokemon friends through the latest social media craze after dark isn't more important than letting families sleep.

A few weeks? It's been like three days. This is a huge case of people finding things to get upset about. I honestly doubt you can hear these people from inside those houses. Why can I tell? People react by fucking throwing water balloons and eggs. You think these are mothers and fathers who can't put their children to bed getting up at 3AM to throw things at people? Don't be ridiculous.

Even in the article itself it said that the crowd was well behaved, so "shouting and starting a street party" is you making up details just to exaggerate the issue. You can appeal to as many extremes as you want, but it's obvious bs and I'm not going to humor it. Its kids playing Pokemon. The groups I've seen out at night are quiet as mice.

 

[redcrayon]

A few weeks? It's been like three days. This is a huge case of people finding things to get upset about. I honestly doubt you can hear these people from inside those houses. Why can I tell? People react by fucking throwing water balloons and eggs. You think these are mothers and fathers who can't put their children to bed getting up at 3AM to throw things at people? Don't be ridiculous.

I meant a few weeks as in its likely to continue for a while and you said people should just put their earplugs in and put up with it. No, I think it's highly likely that an estate full of hundreds of people contains families other than the people throwing eggs. Have some consideration for the vast majority of people who live there who aren't a) throwing eggs or b) playing fucking Pokemon at 3am.

. The groups I've seen out at night are quiet as mice.

Your anecdotal 'evidence' not withstanding, I'm guessing that's not the case here or the police wouldn't have been called.

 

[Darryl]

No, I think it's highly likely that an estate full of hundreds of people contains families other than the people throwing eggs. Have some consideration for the vast majority of people who live there who aren't a) throwing eggs or b) playing fucking Pokemon at 3am.

You're never going to convince me that crowds of people with their heads in their phones are in a park causing a riot all night. It's too ridiculous of an inference to draw from this article. Sorry.

 

[redcrayon]

You're never going to convince me that crowds of people with their heads in their phones are in a park causing a riot all night. It's too ridiculous of an inference to draw from this article. Sorry.

The only person being ridiculous is you if you think people being quiet caused the police to turn up, based on a few kids you saw. Sorry.

It's really not that hard to have some regard for others.

From the Sidney Morning Herald:

But residents in the quiet waterside suburb are fighting back, with one telling Fairfax Media overnight that there was "complete chaos" and "massive levels of noise" after midnight.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/cons...police-as-rhodes-swamped-20160712-gq4hb3.html

Doesn't quite sound 'quiet as mice' to me.

 

[Darryl]

The only person being ridiculous is you if you think people being quiet caused the police to turn up, based on a few kids you saw. Sorry.

It's really not that hard to have some regard for others.

You think the cops couldn't have been called because a bunch of kids in a public park were being assaulted?

 

[Soph]

I live next to a highway and there's people congregating on the plaza/atrium in my backyard constantly.....My house is insulated though, don't hear a thing when I sleep. Really... nothing.

The solution to all of these problems is so easy yet not even mentioned in this thread. I thought you guys were more progressive.

 

[redcrayon]

You think the cops couldn't have been called because a bunch of kids in a public park were being assaulted?

Seeing as the headline on the Sidney Morning Herald site I linked above was:

Pokemon Go: Residents call police as Rhodes swamped

I think it's unlikely.

From the Sidney Morning Herald:

But residents in the quiet waterside suburb are fighting back, with one telling Fairfax Media overnight that there was "complete chaos" and "massive levels of noise" after midnight.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/consu...12-gq4hb3.html

 

[Florida_Man_5000]

The solution to all of these problems is so easy yet not even mentioned in this thread. I thought you guys were more progressive.

Haha, indulge us.

 

[Darryl]

Seeing as the headline on the Sidney Morning Herald site I linked above was:

I think it's unlikely.

So no one in the crowd called the cops? You know this based on a headline? People threw stuff off a balcony of at a massive crowd and no one called the cops. They probably all called the cops on each other. Stop wasting everyone's time on ridiculous stuff. If you wanna state your opinion go for it but don't nitpick on small details in your overcommitted attempt to be "correct". Like most stuff in life, everyone is a little bit wrong. But I'm siding with the crowd. I will always side with people trying to spend time together bc in modern society it's a sad reality that we are all very socially divided. Even if it's at 2AM in a park.

 

[LOZLINK]

Went there on Tuesday and Wednesday night. It'd really not that bad noise wise until a rare Pokémon comes out and everyone runs to go get it. Can confirm water balloon throwing. source: got hit with one on the back of my neck.
EDIT: can't comment on other days, but the crowd starts clearing out around 12 am. It's really not that Loud at that time

 

[redcrayon]

So no one in the crowd called the cops? You know this based on a headline?

No, I read the story. It's been covered by media worldwide if you want to look at different takes on it. Pretty much everyone says that residents called the police.

Stop wasting everyone's time on ridiculous stuff

As opposed to your 'the Pokemon players I saw elsewhere were quiet as mice!' theory when pretty much all the media mentions the noise level, lol.

. If you wanna state your opinion go for it but don't nitpick on small details in your overcommitted attempt to be "correct".

Apologies for posting links that back up my argument and not yours. Didn't realise that was nitpicking.

Like most stuff in life, everyone is a little bit wrong. But I'm siding with the crowd. I will always side with people trying to spend time together bc in modern society it's a sad reality that we are all very socially divided. Even if it's at 2AM in a park.

That's nice that you're siding with the crowd on principle. I'm siding with team 'keep the noise down at 2am when some poor bastards are trying to sleep' based on the reports.

It's possible to compromise without deciding that one groups right to socialise walks all over another's need for sleep. Perhaps we can agree that both having a little regard for local residents when hunting Pokemon at night, and also not chucking water bombs/eggs, are good things, what do you say?

 

[martinstraka8282]

You think the cops couldn't have been called because a bunch of kids in a public park were being assaulted?

Referring to water balloons and eggs as "Assault" is as much of an exageration as calling this a "riot".

The issue here is obviously not that these are bad people conjugating at these pokestops or even the frustrated people tossing water and eggs, it's where they're putting these pokestops. They should not be in residential areas like this, nor should they be allowed in businesses or institutions that have not previously agreed to it.

 

[saunderez]

Referring to water balloons and eggs as "Assault" is as much of an exageration as calling this a "riot".

Yeah it's pretty ridiculous. A mass congregation of people in a residential area is nothing to be concerned about and water bombs and eggs are assault.

 

[LOZLINK]

Referring to water balloons and eggs as "Assault" is as much of an exageration as calling this a "riot".

Guy throwing them was 4 stories up. Luckily I had a hoodie, but I still felt like someone smacked me on the neck hard. If it hit someone's head unprotected and didn't explode as mine didn't, then yeah I'd say it's the equivalent of punching someone in the head, so yes, assault

 

[redcrayon]

Guy throwing them was 4 stories up. Luckily I had a hoodie, but I still felt like someone smacked me on the neck hard. If it hit someone's head unprotected and didn't explode as mine didn't, then yeah I'd say it's the equivalent of punching someone in the head, so yes, assault

As much as I'm arguing strongly in favour of the residents that complained about the noise, I do agree that water bombs/eggs from that height can be very dangerous and thus it's a very stupid response.

 

[ramyeon]

I hope there's a followup story on this soon.

I'd love to know if the police threat will actually stop all the dweebs from congregating later.

Break out the Super Soakers next time if the cops can't handle it.

Poster on a video game forum making fun of people by calling them nerds and dweebs.

 

[LOZLINK]

Poster on a video game forum making fun of people by calling them nerds and dweebs.

Funniest part is that description isn't remotely true. Call em dweebs til they come up in AMGs, Porsches, Maseratis, Beemers all night lol

 

[saunderez]

Guy throwing them was 4 stories up. Luckily I had a hoodie, but I still felt like someone smacked me on the neck hard. If it hit someone's head unprotected and didn't explode as mine didn't, then yeah I'd say it's the equivalent of punching someone in the head, so yes, assault

I know what being hit with an egg is like, I've had one thrown at me by a passing car that hit me in the side of the face. Last thing that crossed my mind was "OMG I'VE BEEN ASSAULTED".

 

[Zen_Arcade]

Of course it does.

If I'm out with my girlfriend, for example, and some dude comes up and calls her an ugly whore, hes getting a fist in the face and a broken nose.

You cannot go about pissing people off and being a cunt without expecting REAL consequences. As I said before, I swear half this board live in cloud cuckoo land.

The only one living in some kind of bizarro land is you if you think you could punch a guy in the face and get away with it with no legal repercussions.

I don't even nesecarially disagree that some people deserved to get punched (The people in this story didn't though), but that's just not the way the world works.