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[Rabid Dwarf 76]

If true I will by it day one. I love my vita and love handhelds.

 

[Lucentto]

I can't imagine Sony making another handheld. Unless they have begun to enjoy throwing money into the fire.

 

[Richie]

Yep
If this is actually a new handheld by Sony, nintendo will be screwed

Given the history of Sony's handhelds against Nintendo's I can't help but find this statement hilarious.

Even if Sony offered their own hybrid like service I don't know that they'd be running away with Nintendo's ball; going by the NX rumors, it'll be a sole device for both console and portable play, whereas if this materializes you'll have to buy a Vita in addition to your Playstation console, thus way bigger barrier of entry. Even bypassing that, we've yet to see how well a console with all of Nintendo's output in one place does, I think that will be significant.

Hey, I'm excited to see the Neo as well, but don't count Ninty out.

 

[Mr. Hyde]

If they removed proprietary memory cards and marketed heavily that it used SD cards, they'd eventually sell boatloads. PlayStation 4 has a huge user base now. Make people know it's a great accessory for your PS4.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

I can't imagine Sony making another handheld. Unless they have begun to enjoy throwing money into the fire.

I mean, this is the company that made a Europe exclusive PSP revision in late 2011.

I don't see a slight revision for Japanese market an impossibility. All depends on how much it would cost them and what are the benefits.

 

[Dynomutt]

Like do you guys think Sony would really release another handheld?

I love my Vita but I just don't see it. This has to be for something else. Please please play it smart Sony. They don't need the handheld demographic. PS4 is awesome and healthy.

I can't wait till 9/7.

P.S. Assumming Sony is trying to be smart with cost. Is it possible to fit the internals of a successor into just a slim 5-7 inch display?

They could have this ports and slots around the edges. Basically a cell phone with no cellular and a vita card + SD slot. Runs Android so you can use it on the go.

Caveat is you connect it to a PS4 controller like below.

If they could price it right maybe $149.99-$179.99 what do you think?

Even then that is reaching.

 

[dragonbane]

This has to be for the Neo, no way Sony risks another handheld lol

 

[onQ123]

What if this use the PowerVR Wizard GPU & the games look better than NX games?

 

[crinale]

Stuff like this isn't a reaction to something so recent.

A new handheld would have to have been in the making for a few years for it to be revealed now.

As for shared library concept Sony has been providing PhyreEngine to support PS3 / 4 / V to third parties, and that's like only reason we're getting Japanese niche Vita gems ported to PS4. In that sense concept is nothing new I guess.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Is that the guy who wrote vita would kill the 3ds?

Kinda Funny when you look back on it.

 

[MaximumSpider]

Will a new Vita model get me back into Vita?
More than likely.

 

[SirUltimos]

Am I missing something here? I read the OP and nowhere do any of those documents make even a passing reference to the Vita or the name Trinity. Is this just GAF being GAF again?

 

[Jonnax]

Can anyone explain to me better what does the other thing added by redblack85 in the OP tell us about this whole thing? It seems like an NDA for those patents, I think?

It's not a patent.
Basically to sell anything with wireless transmission hardware in the USA you need to get it approved by the FCC.

When they do the testing they put the details online for anyone to see. Like internal and external photos and user manual.

There's an option to delay the publication of certain info whilst getting certified.
This happens often with devices that haven't been announced yet.

What this looks like is that the report for the wireless chip in the Neo has been completed.

And some random blogger was like "this is a new Vita" and I guess Trinity because which at this point is as obvious as saying what comes after a PS3 is the PS4.

 

[L.O.R.D]

 

[VLiberty]

The codename and the fact that this is coming at the PS Meeting is totally made up, but the rest still stands and this could actually mean that a new revision or system might come out.

Considering that PSP was the best handheld ever and Vita is a pretty great system despite all the difficulties, we totally need a new handheld by Sony.

 

[Deeke[VRZ]]

The filings are for Sony INTERACTIVE Entertainment, so it should be something PlayStation related.

Unless it's a PlayStation phone, it should be a PS Vita.

There's two devices registered with the FCC:

Digital Transmission System: https://fccid.io/AK8M16DFL1

Part 15 Spread Spectrum Transmitter: https://fccid.io/AK8M16DAM2

Here are test reports for the DTS provided by two different sources. Both of these reports link directly to an Amazon page for "Wireless communication modules"

Test 1 - https://fccid.io/document.php?id=3030170

Test 2 - https://fccid.io/document.php?id=3085515

 

[drangleic tourism]

This can't be real....right? I mean I'd buy one...but the meltdowns that will occur on GAF...yikes.

 

[Bolivar687]

This can't be real....right? I mean I'd buy one...but the meltdowns that will occur on GAF...yikes.

Nintendo fans are already in this thread getting anxious over it.

The circumstances are already so heavily stacked against them with Neo and Scorpio but this is the absolute worst case doomsday scenario for NX if true.

 

[Nauren]

Take my money.

 

[VLiberty]

It's not a patent.
Basically to sell anything with wireless transmission hardware in the USA you need to get it approved by the FCC.

When they do the testing they put the details online for anyone to see. Like internal and external photos and user manual.

There's an option to delay the publication of certain info whilst getting certified.
This happens often with devices that haven't been announced yet.

What this looks like is that the report for the wireless chip in the Neo has been completed.

And some random blogger was like "this is a new Vita" and I guess Trinity because which at this point is as obvious as saying what comes after a PS3 is the PS4.

There are two wireless chip for two different Models, one of those models has a code similar to the PS4 one but the other one partially matches the PS Vita ones (J20HXXXX)

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Nintendo fans are already in this thread getting anxious over it.

What would a Nintendo fan have to be anxious about

 

[BAW]

I can't imagine Sony making another handheld. Unless they have begun to enjoy throwing money into the fire.

Sony has burned boatloads of cash in the past on far more questionable crusades than handheld gaming. Now that they are basically "the Playstation company", maybe, just maybe, they can give it another shot and beat Nintendo at their own game.

 

[x-Lundz-x]

If his is real it better be the following:
It better be a PS4 controller wit ha screen in the middle will the exact same layout so we can have true identical remote play functionality. Not of this touch pad back of the device bullshit for the left and right buttons.

If they can do that I'm in.

 

[crinale]

At the OP's link there are 2 chips listed but has different short-term confidentiality dates (more than a month away from e/a). Doesn't that mean those two are indeed for two different products? (unlike some stated here like they both are in a same device).

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Would be funny if Vice Gaming, Eurogamer or some other outlet backed this rumour, that is most likely not related to a Vita successor(lol).

 

[Deeke[VRZ]]

These FCC filings are for a wireless card that's almost assuredly used in handheld/mobile device, not a console.

This page https://gyazo.com/b0ea189bc0766fe9215b03354c2bf81d mentions a PIFA antenna, which is a Planar Inverted-F Antenna.

"Inverted-F antennae are widely used in compact hand-held wireless devices where space is at a premium. This includes mobile phones and tablet computers using wireless transmissions such as GSM, Bluetooth, and WiFi."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted-F_antenna

 

[Cornbread78]

What would a Nintendo fan have to be anxious about

It was already stated that they would be doomed by the launch of a new Sony handheld.

They should just go 3rd party now and get it over with really. Even this rumor to is too much to bear..

 

[NoctisVsStar]

This thread being 15 pages is something I don't understand

 

[DrROBschiz]

At the OP's link there are 2 chips listed but has different short-term confidentiality dates. Doesn't that mean those two are indeed for two different products? (unlike some stated here like they both are in a same device).

Ohh nkce detail pickup

Also of note is that those two filings are both for a 5GHZ compatible chip which also suggest two products

However we still have Ps4 slim rumors floating so who knows

They could pull a Microsoft here

 

[DieH@rd]

Is the whole thread based only on that FCC filing? If so, I'm not buying it for now.

But on the other hand, if they produce Vita version with better battery, MicroSD support and full set of Dualshock buttons [R2/L2, R3/L3], I would STRONGLY consider selling my old vita and getting that.

Heck, I would totally not mind if they released "Vita Neo", a faster version of Vita that has better SoC, more ram and such.

 

[dragonyeuw]

This is my wishful thinking,pie in the sky ramblings, but I wonder if this could be a VR-enabled Vita. I can't imagine Sony is using the 'Matrix' branding for all of these devices to not connect directly to each other in some manner. Obviously the offerings would be akin to the kind of stuff you see on Note 4/5 and any other VR capable phones, but I can't see any good reason for Sony to release either a revised Vita 3.0, or an entirely new system unless they're tying it into VR.

 

[InfiniteCombo]

Nintendo fans are already in this thread getting anxious over it.

What do Nintendo fans have to get anxious about, exactly?

(For the record, I'm not a "Nintendo fan", I'm a fan of video games. I strongly dislike console wars and fanboyism coming from ANY direction.)

 

[Afrit]

At the OP's link there are 2 chips listed but has different short-term confidentiality dates (more than a month away from e/a). Doesn't that mean those two are indeed for two different products? (unlike some stated here like they both are in a same device).

That's a reasonable deduction.

 

[AuthenticM]

Ok, if OP is full of shit, why is this thread not locked? It's been two hours.

 

[Exalted]

Sounds totally legit. I bet it uses the Sony Xperia Z5 Premium 4k screen.

 

[Rodin]

That reads like "Neo will have a new 5GHZ wifi chip" and people are freaking out over nothing.

If there are two chips, a PS4 Slim sounds way more likely than a PS Vita 3000.

 

[crinale]

The filings are for Sony INTERACTIVE Entertainment, so it should be something PlayStation related.

Unless it's a PlayStation phone, it should be a PS Vita.

There's two devices registered with the FCC:

Digital Transmission System: https://fccid.io/AK8M16DFL1

Part 15 Spread Spectrum Transmitter: https://fccid.io/AK8M16DAM2

Here are test reports for the DTS provided by two different sources. Both of these reports link directly to an Amazon page for "Wireless communication modules"

Test 1 - https://fccid.io/document.php?id=3030170

Test 2 - https://fccid.io/document.php?id=3085515

These FCC filings are for a wireless card that's almost assuredly used in handheld/mobile device, not a console.

This page https://gyazo.com/b0ea189bc0766fe9215b03354c2bf81d mentions a PIFA antenna, which is a Planar Inverted-F Antenna.

"Inverted-F antennae are widely used in compact hand-held wireless devices where space is at a premium. This includes mobile phones and tablet computers using wireless transmissions such as GSM, Bluetooth, and WiFi."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted-F_antenna

Nice find. So it really can be a portable

Spoiler

PS4

.

 

[DrROBschiz]

These FCC filings are for a wireless card that's almost assuredly used in handheld/mobile device, not a console.

This page https://gyazo.com/b0ea189bc0766fe9215b03354c2bf81d mentions a PIFA antenna, which is a Planar Inverted-F Antenna.

"Inverted-F antennae are widely used in compact hand-held wireless devices where space is at a premium. This includes mobile phones and tablet computers using wireless transmissions such as GSM, Bluetooth, and WiFi."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted-F_antenna

Oh shit

So now one more question

Is it possible that such an antenna would also be preferred for a PS4 slim model?

because thats the competing hardware theory at this point

 

[Metalmarc]

Wifi chip for morpheus so you can connect it to the psneo wirelessly is that a possibility?

I know nothing about how these vr headsets work

 

[jmaine_ph]

Probably new wireless chip for PS4 slim and PS4 Neo

 

[Oregano]

Ok, if OP is full of shit, why is this thread not locked? It's been two hours.

The mods know the truth!

Nintendo RIP

 

[Quixzlizx]

The filings are for Sony INTERACTIVE Entertainment, so it should be something PlayStation related.

Unless it's a PlayStation phone, it should be a PS Vita.

There's two devices registered with the FCC:

Digital Transmission System: https://fccid.io/AK8M16DFL1

Part 15 Spread Spectrum Transmitter: https://fccid.io/AK8M16DAM2

Here are test reports for the DTS provided by two different sources. Both of these reports link directly to an Amazon page for "Wireless communication modules"

Test 1 - https://fccid.io/document.php?id=3030170

Test 2 - https://fccid.io/document.php?id=3085515

You're the jeff rigby who tugs at my heartstrings.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Probably new wireless chip for PS4 slim and PS4 Neo

Would a Slim Model even use a PIFA antenna though??

Just how small would it have to be?

 

[2+2=5]

As much as i really Really REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY want it to be true, i don't believe it

Spoiler

please be true

 

[Bitch Pudding]

These FCC filings are for a wireless card that's almost assuredly used in handheld/mobile device, not a console.

This page https://gyazo.com/b0ea189bc0766fe9215b03354c2bf81d mentions a PIFA antenna, which is a Planar Inverted-F Antenna.

"Inverted-F antennae are widely used in compact hand-held wireless devices where space is at a premium. This includes mobile phones and tablet computers using wireless transmissions such as GSM, Bluetooth, and WiFi."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted-F_antenna

Well, making PS4 even smaller comes a price.

 

[Lucentto]

Sony has burned boatloads of cash in the past on far more questionable crusades than handheld gaming. Now that they are basically "the Playstation company", maybe, just maybe, they can give it another shot and beat Nintendo at their own game.

Oh c'mon. I'm sure you know that will in no way happen. Nintendo has the handheld market on lock at this point. Attempting to revive an already dead handheld of theirs won't change that.

 

[Deeke[VRZ]]

That's a reasonable deduction.

Both of the FCC filings will likely be in the same device.

Here's what Part 15 Spread Spectrum Transmitters are and what they do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency-hopping_spread_spectrum

Based on this, I'd say both the Part 15 Spread Spectrum Transmitter and the Digital Transmission System would both be used on the same device, ie a next-gen PS Vita.

 

[FantasticMrSnake]

So only better wifi?

 

[DedValve]

Sony has burned boatloads of cash in the past on far more questionable crusades than handheld gaming. Now that they are basically "the Playstation company", maybe, just maybe, they can give it another shot and beat Nintendo at their own game.

Nintendo couldn't even beat Apple at their own game.

Mobile gaming no longer belongs to Nintendo, dedicated mobile gaming yes. If NX wasn't a hybrid I'd say that Nintendos goal would be to do around the same numbers as the 3DS, it being a hybrid however gives it far more chance of success.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Well, making PS4 even smaller comes a price.

Jeebus how small are we talking

Maybe we arent just getting a Vita successor but a true portable PS4?

Both of the FCC filings will likely be in the same device.

Here's what Part 15 Spread Spectrum Transmitters are and what they do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency-hopping_spread_spectrum

Based on this, I'd say both the Part 15 Spread Spectrum Transmitter and the Digital Transmission System would both be used on the same device, ie a next-gen PS Vita.

Wait so where is the NEO filings then?

did they already get posted?