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UFC 203 CM Punk vs Mickey Gall |OT| Like Mussolini and Kennedy

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pants said:
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I was really, really close to getting all the results right :D

On a side note, fuck that crowd very much for booing people who are out there to entertain them at the risk of brain damage and their lives.
 
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BoosterDuck

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Dan27 said:
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Vince shouldn't be laughing

this loss makes his organization look worse
 
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Ninja Scooter said:
I'm not denying there is a lot of that, but I don't think you can paint everyone rooting against Punk with a broad brush, in terms of the reactions he was getting. The Punk story was like the opposite of an underdog story. He used his fame and money to train at one of the best gyms and get a chance on the biggest stage without ever proving he belonged there. There are guys that are desperate for a chance at the UFC, guys like Mickey Gall, who would kill for those kinds of opportunities. A lot of people that never follow the WWE or really had any idea who Punk was before this were going to be rubbed the wrong way by that. He had the deck stacked against him from the start in terms of public perception.
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Not to mention for all the "WWE fans are just mad he left" going around, people are forgetting that Punk got a lot of support during his departure once details started to come out. Hell, even now, you'll find tons of Punk stans who think he can do no wrong giving him props.

I know claiming it's all just butthurt fans is an easier narrative, but the fact is some people are just as bothered by the way Punk got into UFC even though we all know he had no business being there. There's also the fact that he's known for not being the nicest guy in the world (something even he admits).
 
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PastorOfMuppets

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I'm not a pro wrestling fan at all and irked by how Punk was just handed a (reportedly) very lucrative UFC contract based purely on his ability to draw in curious WWE fans. The ones at fault for that however is the UFC brass, not CM Punk. From everything I've heard and his interviews, I do believe that he was willing to just start out fighting on low level regional MMA promotions. It's just that when you're offered 7 figures for a fight, you take it. Just about everyone in this thread would take the deal Punk got to fight Gall or any UFC fighter.

The one thing I'm not gonna get into however is praising Punk for being brave and having big brass balls. Listen, if you offered me the money CM Punk got to fight in the UFC, I'd take it in a heartbeat.
 
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DeaconKnowledge said:
So, would WWE even want Punk back after the ass whipping he took?
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Brock's last fight before retiring in 2011 was terrible and he lost badly in it, he still came in as the total killer. Not that Punk would be the same way, but yes they would take him back without hesitation, he's still a big name.
 
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Ithil said:
Brock's last fight before retiring in 2011 was terrible and he lost badly in it, he still came in as the total killer. Not that Punk would be the same way, but yes they would take him back without hesitation, he's still a big name.
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Oh yeah Ubereem ate him alive in that fight.
 
Biff

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Do we know how much Punk got paid for this fight?

I thought UFC had to publicly disclose fighter pay, not just the Reebok sponsorship cut? Or maybe that's just required from the Nevada commission?
 
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Reem completely fucked up by going for the guillotine. He had good chance at getting a TKO if he just started pounding on Stipe after that knockdown.
 
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Suplexer

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The beautiful thing about pro wrestling is that you can take someone like Punk, who has talent and most importantly heart, and let him go out there and give you the best performance he can give.

MMA is obviously not built for this, and that's fine, but pro wrestling isn't about making people who can't fight look like they can fight. None of its fans are saying that either. Pro wrestling is about taking people who can't fight, and showing you what it would look like if they could. That's where the awesome theatrics and stories and characters come from and what makes me love wrestling.

They are each their own beast, but to the people who thinks this fight affects WWE or UFC, it doesn't, because this really just solidifies that overlap is coincidental between the two. Just because you can beat people up doesn't mean you can waltz over to WWE and be a 434 day reign, recording break champion, and vice versa.
 
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Crimson_Echidna

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Ninja Scooter said:
I'm not denying there is a lot of that, but I don't think you can paint everyone rooting against Punk with a broad brush, in terms of the reactions he was getting. The Punk story was like the opposite of an underdog story. He used his fame and money to train at one of the best gyms and get a chance on the biggest stage without ever proving he belonged there. There are guys that are desperate for a chance at the UFC, guys like Mickey Gall, who would kill for those kinds of opportunities. A lot of people that never follow the WWE or really had any idea who Punk was before this were going to be rubbed the wrong way by that. He had the deck stacked against him from the start in terms of public perception.
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And on top of that, upon quitting WWE, that was the very thing that Punk was complaining about not liking, so the irony wasn't lost on anyone.
 
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Suplexer said:
Just because you can beat people up doesn't mean you can waltz over to WWE and be a 434 day reign, recording break champion, and vice versa.
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The writers of the WWE could absolutely hand someone a 434 day reign. You might as well herald Arnold Schwarzenegger for his domination of The Predator. Just because you can beat people up doesn't mean you can waltz into a jungle and defeat an intergalactic alien hunter.
 
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Ithil said:
Brock's last fight before retiring in 2011 was terrible and he lost badly in it, he still came in as the total killer. Not that Punk would be the same way, but yes they would take him back without hesitation, he's still a big name.
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Brock had literally hundreds of amateur wrestling matches and became a NCAA division 1 champion. He almost made it on the Minnesota Vikings after only ever having competed in high school football. Lesnar is just a fucking incredible athlete.


CM Punk is not like that at all, he has no so of competitive athletic background. Also Brock fought fucking Cain Velasquez and a super roided up Overeem while Punk fought a 2-0 kid they grought in from the small leagues. You can't compare those loses.
 
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Levito said:
Brock had literally hundreds of amateur wrestling matches and became a NCAA division 1 champion. He almost made it on the Minnesota Vikings after only ever having competed in high school football. Lesnar is just a fucking incredible athlete.


CM Punk is not like that at all, he has no so of competitive athletic background. Also Brock fought fucking Cain Velasquez and a super roided up Overeem while Punk fought a 2-0 kid they grought in from the small leagues. You can't compare those loses.
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I just said Punk is not the same at all. You don't need to tell me Brock was a super athlete.
My point was this loss would not stop WWE taking Punk back if he wanted to return, they need all the name talent they can get.

This isn't about Punk or Lesnar, it's about WWE and how desperate they are for stars.
 
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the WWE just had Sting's geriatric ass headline a PPV last year. They'd take Punk back in a heartbeat. Vince loves money more than any personal grudge.
 
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DarkArterialGore said:
Which pro wrestlers do people think would put up a decent fight in MMA?

Maybe guys who are great athletes like Rusev, Cesaro or prime RVD.
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anybody with a background in some sort of combat sport (amateur wrestling). Being a great athlete doesn't mean you are going to be great at MMA, anymore than it would guarantee success in the NFL or NBA.
 
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Ithil said:
I just said Punk is not the same at all. You don't need to tell me Brock was a super athlete.
My point was this loss would not stop WWE taking Punk back if he wanted to return, they need all the name talent they can get.

This isn't about Punk or Lesnar, it's about WWE and how desperate they are for stars.
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Sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you meant Punk could make a comeback in the UFC the way Lesnar did after he lost to Frank Mir.
 
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You need to be entertaining and need to be able to work a crowd into loving or hating you. It's not for everyone, to say the least, and there are MMA guys that crashed and burned trying it, so it's not really that weird a statement.
 
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RBelong2Us

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So apperantly UFC 203 did numbers between 650k to 800k....

Punks carny fight at least doubled buy rates for that card. Thats not more than a 300k PPV without that fight.

Dana is gonna let him fight again.

Sakuraba vs Punk
 
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