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[Reki]

Well... trying to get on topic: another poster has pointed out that Nintendo rarely uses external engines for their games. But japanese developers have been adopting UE4 for some titles (SE comes to mind), and while NLG is a western developer not owned by NLC, this listing could indicate a more open approach to the engines used.

Of course this is great for third party developers, but what does it mean for Nintendo themselves? I don't recall even knowing the names of the engines they use (have they ever been disclosed?) but I suppose Unreal is flexible enough to accomodate their needs?

 

[Zooport]

Could someone tell me the legitimacy of this claim that the NX will have an optional subscription model? I'm guessing it's BS?

https://twitter.com/GamingBrown/status/775247852968747008/photo/1

 

[SuperSah]

I'm kind of happy Nintendo hasn't revealed this thing yet. The insane speculation is fun to follow, lol.

Hope they reveal it soon for y'all impatient lot.

 

[udivision]

Could someone tell me the legitimacy of this claim that the NX will have an optional subscription model? I'm guessing it's BS?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsI7cWEWAAAvokQ.jpg[IMG]

[url]https://twitter.com/GamingBrown/status/775247852968747008/photo/1[/url][/QUOTE]

There is none.

I don't understand why that pic comes up anyway.

 

[KritaCal]

How legit is this?

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/09/12/rumor-nintendos-developer-portal-updated-gearing-up-for-an-nx-reveal/

 

[mikeyvids]

 

[pinkurocket]

Y'all this is becoming too much.

 

[Plinko]

How legit is this?

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/09/12/rumor-nintendos-developer-portal-updated-gearing-up-for-an-nx-reveal/

Wait--that Twitter account actually has legitimate leaks? I've honestly never heard of it. Where is that site getting this from?

 

[Schnozberry]

Wait--that Twitter account actually has legitimate leaks? I've honestly never heard of it. Where is that site getting this from?

She apparently datamined some costumes from Super Mario Maker? I guess that counts? Seems like tales from his ass.

 

[LuigiBlood]

He apparently datamined some costumes from Super Mario Maker? I guess that counts? Seems like tales from his ass.

Not just Super Mario Maker, there's also a lot of Splatoon datamining and stuff. She's legit.

 

[Toparaman]

Could someone tell me the legitimacy of this claim that the NX will have an optional subscription model? I'm guessing it's BS?

https://twitter.com/GamingBrown/status/775247852968747008/photo/1

NetfliX. It was staring us in the face all this time.

Spoiler

Looks fanmade.

 

[marmoka]

Could someone tell me the legitimacy of this claim that the NX will have an optional subscription model? I'm guessing it's BS?

https://twitter.com/GamingBrown/status/775247852968747008/photo/1

WHAAAAAT?? Fake.

But if true... WHAAAAAT??

 

[Zooport]

I've been trying to dig in to this subscription rumour, and all I can find is leading me back to some foreign gaming sites 3 days ago.

They give no links or mention of their source just posted that chart and the benefits of this approach, so it could just be someones idea that they have made up themselves.

Translated: http://www.gameblog.fr/blogs/lordsinclair/p_119281_la-nintendo-nx-sera-gratuite

Unique Benefits of this incredible idea:

• Anyone can access the video game, just € 10 per month. The price of a normal console (300 €), you have 30 months NX games!
• If the NX are "sold" to 50 million subscribers, you quickly calculate a monthly income of € 500 million ... Nintendo made Ajourd'hui 180 million euros in sales per month. Keeping 50% of this amount (10% for service, 40% of their games), or 250 million euros, you get there. And imagine that Nintendo reaches 100 million subscribers worldwide ...
• Third-party publishers and developers benefit from regular income also on the basis of a sophisticated computing mixing time of use, the number of times that games are launched and even the score given by users.

 

[LuigiBlood]

I've been trying to dig in to this subscription rumour, and all I can find is leading me back to some foreign gaming sites 3 days ago.

They give no links or mention of their source just posted that chart and the benefits of this approach, so it could just be someones idea that they have made up themselves.

Translated: http://www.gameblog.fr/blogs/lordsinclair/p_119281_la-nintendo-nx-sera-gratuite

Unique Benefits of this incredible idea:

• Anyone can access the video game, just € 10 per month. The price of a normal console (300 €), you have 30 months NX games!
• If the NX are "sold" to 50 million subscribers, you quickly calculate a monthly income of € 500 million ... Nintendo made Ajourd'hui 180 million euros in sales per month. Keeping 50% of this amount (10% for service, 40% of their games), or 250 million euros, you get there. And imagine that Nintendo reaches 100 million subscribers worldwide ...
• Third-party publishers and developers benefit from regular income also on the basis of a sophisticated computing mixing time of use, the number of times that games are launched and even the score given by users.

It's just a blog post from a user of the site with an idea. That's nothing interesting.

 

[Zooport]

It's just a blog post from a user of the site with an idea. That's nothing interesting.

That's what I thought. It's a shame, I'd like a subscription model, especially if it spreads the cost of gaming. Maybe then I could own all of the console

 

[maxcriden]

I don't remember if it was already said, but I was just thinking that I expect Yooka-Laylee to be one of the first indies shown off for NX.

 

[ggx2ac]

People have been asking for a Netflix-like subscription for a while, except it was more so to do with software like having access to the Virtual Console library for apparently $5 per month.

To do it with hardware on $10 per month? (That was to do with an earlier post from some random tweet) I'd be surprised if Nintendo didn't lose $2 billion in one fiscal year due to having a thin margin of profit for a joke of a subscription service.

The point is, if Nintendo did a subscription service, they are not going to take a profit of 10 cents for every subscriber. Look at Sony, people are happy to rent games they don't want to play and a service to get permission to play online for what is now $60 per year from having the price increased but the service not improving substantially.

Edit: I was referring to this.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=216647575

Edit 2: Nintendo are already using vouchers with MyNintendo so, it's hard to see them suddenly decide a subscription service on the NX because what would you do with mynintendo then?

 

[Dark Cloud]

I don't remember if it was already said, but I was just thinking that I expect Yooka-Laylee to be one of the first indies shown off for NX.

How come you think this?

 

[casey_contra]

I don't remember if it was already said, but I was just thinking that I expect Yooka-Laylee to be one of the first indies shown off for NX.

Ive tweeted at them multiple times about that but no response, as expected. I'd love this though!

 

[maxcriden]

How come you think this?

No solid reason of any kind. Just idle speculation. Seems like it would be a great fit. And we know Wii U is the version of the game that Playtonic is developing themselves.

Ive tweeted at them multiple times about that but no response, as expected. I'd love this though!

As would I!

 

[Plinko]

People have been asking for a Netflix-like subscription for a while, except it was more so to do with software like having access to the Virtual Console library for apparently $5 per month.

To do it with hardware on $10 per month? (That was to do with an earlier post from some random tweet) I'd be surprised if Nintendo didn't lose $2 billion in one fiscal year due to having a thin margin of profit for a joke of a subscription service.

The point is, if Nintendo did a subscription service, they are not going to take a profit of 10 cents for every subscriber. Look at Sony, people are happy to rent games they don't want to play and a service to get permission to play online for what is now $60 per year from having the price increased but the service not improving substantially.

Edit: I was referring to this.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=216647575

Edit 2: Nintendo are already using vouchers with MyNintendo so, it's hard to see them suddenly decide a subscription service on the NX because what would you do with mynintendo then?

Seriously. They'd still have to charge for the console, even if it was a low initial cost.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

lol, he is just straight up trolling ya'll at this point
https://twitter.com/Attack/status/775420426835009536

Wtf, I hate that guy now.

 

[Doctre81]

That HAC SDK thing may be fake too. Just a warning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF6WJRcUZ1U

HTML App Creator.

 

[udivision]

WHAAAAAT?? Fake.

But if true... WHAAAAAT??

In order to get the revenue generated by 1 Wii U (Somehow, retailers are completely cut out of this equation so apparently we'll all be getting our stuff shipped directly to us?) It would take about 2.5 years.



Yeah...

 

[mStudios]

That HAC SDK thing may be fake too. Just a warning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF6WJRcUZ1U

Of course it is. Nintendo name their SDK with the console's codename lol (At least for GC/Wii/WiiU)

 

[Dremorak]

The studio that killed Samus :-(

I think you mean the studio that made a mech multiplayer fps that Nintendo decided might work as a metroid spin off.

 

[ggx2ac]

In order to get the revenue generated by 1 Wii U (Somehow, retailers are completely cut out of this equation so apparently we'll all be getting our stuff shipped directly to us?) It would take about 2.5 years.



Yeah...

This.

Subscription service for digital goods? Fine.
Subscription service for hardware? Investors would sell shares the moment they see analysts predicting huge net (income) losses.

My opinion on subs for eShop games? I don't care because I'd like to play games that I don't have to pay to rent.

 

[ckfy63a]

So, where do we stand on a Pre-TGS reveal/announcement at this point? Personally, I'm holding out until roughly 12 hours after Sony's Japanese Press Meeting.

 

[CrisKre]

So, where do we stand on a Pre-TGS reveal/announcement at this point? Personally, I'm holding out until roughly 12 hours after Sony's Japanese Press Meeting.

That boat has sailed as far as in concerned.

End of September beginning of October it is IMHO.

 

[Father_Brain]

That HAC SDK thing may be fake too. Just a warning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF6WJRcUZ1U

HTML App Creator.

How does that prove anything? The date and version number don't match the one she gave.

 

[Doctre81]

How does that prove anything? The date and version number don't match the one she gave.

That's why I said MAY.

 

[Father_Brain]

That's why I said MAY.

It doesn't even cast any real doubt, though. It's just something else that uses the same acronym.

Pick any three-letter acronym you can think of; odds are there's already a piece of software that uses it.

 

[Doctre81]

It doesn't even cast any real doubt, though. It's just something else that uses the same acronym.

Pick any three-letter acronym you can think of; odds are there's already a piece of software that uses it.

Ok then. I did find one for 3ds that was similar so it may be legit.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

It doesn't even cast any real doubt, though. It's just something else that uses the same acronym.

Pick any three-letter acronym you can think of; odds are there's already a piece of software that uses it.

SAD

 

[optimiss]

This.

Subscription service for digital goods? Fine.
Subscription service for hardware? Investors would sell shares the moment they see analysts predicting huge net (income) losses.

My opinion on subs for eShop games? I don't care because I'd like to play games that I don't have to pay to rent.

I love the idea of buying the hardware and subscribing to the entire eShop library for $10-$15 a month. I rarely play a single game straight through at once so being able to jump around would be great. I'd also love the opportunity to try games and genres I don't normally want to risk the investment on.

Of course they should combine it with their traditional business model as well for those gamers who do want to own games. It is never a bad thing to cater to more types of customers. I can see this really appealing to the casual family crowd.

 

[Feep]

You did say modern, but you missed the entire point of this thread. Congratulations.


Do you believe this thread was meant to hail ninteno's adoption of an industry-wide engine, given last two nintendo consoles were running prev iterations of the same engine?

Let me spell it out for you:

The information in the OP is the first bit of hard info we have re the NX, namely that NLG - a nintendo 2nd-party studio, is working on an PBR, possibly Unreal-based pipeline for an ARM device. That bit also corroborates what Eurogamer and NateDrake shared earlier as anonymous leaks/rumors. Only that this time it's not a rumour or an anonymous leak.

Are we clear now?

I sense anger.

Nothing you just said qualifies as relevant; the fact that it's "verified" means very little to me, or anyone. You might as well celebrate the hard confirmation that the NX does, in fact, use buttons to control characters on screen.

Unreal uses PBR automatically; it's built into the pipeline. If you want to view the ARM thing as relevant (by, perhaps, bumping up the already very high probability that system is using the Tegra SoC), cool, but I was obviously just referring to the Unreal engine aspect, which is the most automatic assumption any normal person could possibly make.

 

[Painguy]

HAC = Handheld And Console?

Edit
Seems sum peeps already pointed this out.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Could someone tell me the legitimacy of this claim that the NX will have an optional subscription model? I'm guessing it's BS?

https://twitter.com/GamingBrown/status/775247852968747008/photo/1

Probably fake but that would be a massive game changer.

I really want Nintendo to blow us away, whether it works for them or not. At least they are trying something different.

Someone needs to shake up this industry.

 

[ggx2ac]

I love the idea of buying the hardware and subscribing to the entire eShop library for $10-$15 a month. I rarely play a single game straight through at once so being able to jump around would be great. I'd also love the opportunity to try games and genres I don't normally want to risk the investment on.

Of course they should combine it with their traditional business model as well for those gamers who do want to own games. It is never a bad thing to cater to more types of customers. I can see this really appealing to the casual family crowd.

A rental subscription is always an option because Nintendo could get money out of it.

There are game demos already but, that usually results in people not buying a game after they've tried it. Hence a rental could get some money out whereas a demo could result in no money gained.

Edit: As mentioned before, mynintendo gives vouchers to buy some games for less cost.

 

[Neiteio]

I think you mean the studio that made a mech multiplayer fps that Nintendo decided might work as a metroid spin off.

Accessory to murder.

 

[ggx2ac]

In less than 5 hours is Sony's Pre-TGS conference. Could PS Vita "Trinity" appear? I'm not serious.

It's relevant to knowing if a PSP-like device (that is or isn't NX) appears from the Foxconn rumours.

 

[Kodaman]

In less than 5 hours is Sony's Pre-TGS conference. Could PS Vita "Trinity" appear?

The possibility is about as equal as an NX announcement this week.

 

[TLZ]

Not sure who that person is but, looking at the replies to that tweet, HAC is supposedly the internal codename for the NX, like the Wii was RVL, the 3DS was NTR and the Wii U was WUP.

In that case then the NX name is the retail name.

 

[Father_Brain]

The possibility is about as equal as an NX announcement this week.

Well, not when one of those two platforms doesn't exist, but still.

 

[User123456]

Well, not when one of those two platforms doesn't exist, but still.

But the Nintendo NX does exist! Silly Father Brain!

...Ooooooh.

Spoiler

 

[Nostremitus]

All of Nintendo's bigger in-house game engines are designed to squeeze every measure of performance out of PowerPC CPUs and AMD GPUs, it's also safe to assume their software engineers have become incredibly proficient with this hardware setup...

For those who know about such things, would it be an easier/faster transition for Nintendo to go with a third party engine like UE4 instead of retrofitting their in-house engines over to the new hardware?

...at least for the first batch of games?

Would doing this be a reasonable way for their devs to gain proficiency on the new hardware in order to better modify their own engines moving forward?

Or do you think this is one of the reasons Nintendo joined the Vulkan working group? In order to help them update their API and engines to a completely new hardware setup?

 

[ggx2ac]

What was shown at Sony's Pre-TGS event was new Vita colours, no new model/revision. Maybe that guy from Foxconn doesn't even know what a Vita is since he described something as PSP-like.

Oh well, doesn't matter. It could be anything if it's not related to NX.

 

[ckfy63a]

I would like to remind everyone that Nintendo America's second business day of the week, for the last two weeks, has yielded a substantial announcement about two pillars of Nintendo's business: Nintendo 3DS (the direct) and mobile (Super Mario Run). Will the streak continue this week, with an announcement regarding the "third pillar," NX, on September 13th? I certainly hope so, especially after that rather disappointing showing from Sony.

 

[Toadthemushroom]

In less than 5 hours is Sony's Pre-TGS conference. Could PS Vita "Trinity" appear? I'm not serious.

Sony ended up showing PS Vita-2000 Revision 2. With more mismatching screen bezels...a far cry from the more tasteful original Vita-2000 releases.

Was surprised at the lack of new games at the Sony event really, there weren't many all things considered. Makes me wonder if publishers are all-in on NX, or whether they are investing even more into the mobile space. That new itadaki street should be on NX at least.

 

[blu]

I sense anger.

Nothing you just said qualifies as relevant; the fact that it's "verified" means very little to me, or anyone. You might as well celebrate the hard confirmation that the NX does, in fact, use buttons to control characters on screen.

Unreal uses PBR automatically; it's built into the pipeline. If you want to view the ARM thing as relevant (by, perhaps, bumping up the already very high probability that system is using the Tegra SoC), cool, but I was obviously just referring to the Unreal engine aspect, which is the most automatic assumption any normal person could possibly make.

Unreal or similar PBR pipeline + ARM assembly is a confirmation of a modern-GPU ARM platform by nintendo. It's not a celebration of anything. And since this info is as good as it gets, yes, it's a solid confirmation of things we only had rumors and common-sense speculations about. Whether it means very little to you, personally, or to me, is irrelevant for the value of the info to the general public.