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Preview of Pokémon Sun & Moon anime broadcast (+ Pokémon Horizon, new manga)

there's preference and there's outright lies

there's a non-inbetween shot of quality Ash with weird eyes btw

Please. As someone who likes fun animation, I couldn't be happier with the style of Sun and Moon. It has cartoony looseness, smears, bouncy character motion, and dynamic action - what's not to like?
 

entremet

Member
I kinda want to get back into the Pokemon anime after hearing all the good things about XY.

Where can I watch them legally?
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
objectivity doesn't exist in art

yeah that's why someone claiming one is better as a fact isn't an attempt to make an objective right

also no, there is definitely better animation, otherwise you wouldn't see people shitting on Simpson's newer openings
 
Real Miyazaki feel to the new art style, I can dig it. Looks great in motion. Lots of people cherry-picking bad still frames, inbetweens, etc though. That stuff looks weird because it's driving the motion, you aren't supposed to see it on it's own.

Oh well.

Seems like a fresh concept for the series, which is probably good after 20 years of the same old stuff. And the setting should be a lot of fun too.

I was concerned it might be Orange Islands 2.0, which would have been terrible, but this seems like it should be pretty fun.
 

Village

Member
Please. As someone who likes fun animation, I couldn't be happier with the style of Sun and Moon. It has cartoony looseness, smears, bouncy character motion, and dynamic action - what's not to like?
edit: it looks aiighty

Dunno why ash is in school, I mean there should be a larger explination on why children get free reign to just not go to school and go do pokemon. But I feel like its a bit late forthaty
 
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That moment when all your artists are on vacation so you just try to make do.
 
yeah that's why someone claiming one is better as a fact isn't an attempt to make an objective right

I don't see that dude claiming it as fact. He was just sharing his opinion. I know that I'm certainly not going to bother throwing an in "IMO" at the start of all my posts on art. It should just be understood to be subjective.

also no, there is definitely better animation, otherwise you wouldn't see people shitting on Simpson's newer openings

Sure, but that's because of current trends and societal standards on what constitutes "good animation," and that stuff changes over time. There's no way that you can actually say The Simpson's animation is objectively bad. It's just popularly considered to be bad, but that's still subjective.
 

Bubble

Neo Member
I guess they needed to tighten up the animation budget after XYZ.

I'll probably give it a shot unless Ash regresses to BW Ash levels of dumb.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
The lack of shading are personally hurting it.

I don't see that dude claiming it as fact. He was just sharing his opinion. I know that I'm certainly not going to bother throwing an in "IMO" at the start of all my posts on art. It should just be understood to be subjective.

Sure, but that's because of current trends and societal standards on what constitutes "good animation," and that stuff changes over time. There's no way that you can actually say The Simpson's animation is objectively bad. It's just popularly considered to be bad, but that's still subjective.

Pulling an "opinion card" doesn't make the claim irrefutable. Opinions are mean to be discussed and so when it's put to the table it is open for scrutiny. He says it's better, I say it's not. Why have a discussion thread if you don't discuss things despite the air of subjectivity.

As for your second point, you might as well consider nothing is objective. Truly a copout statement especially when actual subjective thought have people willing to go against it.

I mean seriously I shouldn't be the one being told about subjectivity, like I'm one of the few people who actually talk about non-Disney/Pixar animated films in the board lol

Also it seems people are confused - I'm talking about Syntsui's post which is an assertion of fact. The other guy definitely is just talking about his thoughts.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Do you think I'm lying?

no, otherwise I'd say you are, but your post literally says "it's better because what I prefer"

people seem to miss why I made a reply like that, like they always confuse an attempt to dissect an opinion with "my subjectivity is being attacked!"
 
no, otherwise I'd say you are, but your post literally says "it's better because what I prefer"

people seem to miss why I made a reply like that, like they always confuse an attempt to dissect an opinion with "my subjectivity is being attacked!"

I'm just confused on what your phrases "outright lies" in your earlier post refers to.
 
Lol this animation will be the naruto pain fight discussion all over again. Some won't like it some will. Think it's a step back personally. And ash looks younger than the damn first season. Younger than best wishes and that's saying something
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Lol this animation will be the naruto pain fight discussion all over again. Some won't like it some will. Think it's a step back personally. And ash looks younger than the damn first season. Younger than best wishes and that's saying something

Yeah this. Naruto vs Pain has really great animation but has a shitty artstyle. While obviously this looks better, it still is lacking due to the lack of shades and the general flat looking colors.
 

jobber

Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
So Ash's mom lets him go out and travel their little world at the age of 10...and he's been doing this for 20 years...now he's being forced to go to school after saving the world like 10 times (including today's episode) and said school isn't even in his own town?
 

Nightbird

Member
Yeah this. Naruto vs Pain has really great animation but has a shitty artstyle. While obviously this looks better, it still is lacking due to the lack of shades and the general flat looking colors.

Exactly.

I, for example hate the artstyle in the Naruto vs Pain fight because i think it's unfitting and gave the fight a more comical tone.
The Animation itself is amazing though.
 
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