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NFL QB Colin Kaepernick sits during Nat. Anthem; cites America's oppression of POC

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LionPride

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A lot of people don't know that Joe came from a neighborhood outside of Philly where he was the only white guy on the team. He helped change the culture at bama. Dude marched in civil rights protests.

Wow

I know Dusty Rhodes kinda had the same deal goin for him. Only white kid in his neighborhood, saw what black people go through, unlike his peers wasn't racist
 

NastyBook

Member
Wow

I know Dusty Rhodes kinda had the same deal goin for him. Only white kid in his neighborhood, saw what black people go through, unlike his peers wasn't racist
Explains "Hard Times" perfectly. And Cody's wife. And Goldust poppin champagne all over R Truth's wife. Man, everything just makes perfect sense now. :D
 

dataeast

Neo Member
The best part about these nationalist idiots is that they are completely oblivious to the fact that their complaining only amplifies the situation. It’s both sad and hilarious.
 
The best part about these nationalist idiots is that they are completely oblivious to the fact that their complaining only amplifies the situation. It’s both sad and hilarious.

yep, i said that from the beginning. the only way to shut kap down would be to completely ignore it. what he is doing worked thanks in part to these racist assholes making a big deal about it
 

shauntu

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There is nothing more patriotic than trying to affect a positive change in the country in which you live. That's how a society becomes strong and what makes a country great. The flag or anthem are only symbols that stand for what kind of society they represent. So all those participating in these protests are doing far more to honor those symbols than their detractors.

Well said.
 

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The Autumn Wind
The best part about these nationalist idiots is that they are completely oblivious to the fact that their complaining only amplifies the situation. It’s both sad and hilarious.
For people that like to complain how we get offended by everything these days, thy sure do get offended easily.
 
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https://twitter.com/kirkmorrison/status/779656475115261952

Colin Kaepernick joined a high school football team in its protest Friday night in Oakland, California, where numerous players were photographed lying on their backs with their hands raised while the San Francisco 49ers quarterback kneeled during the pregame playing of the national anthem.

Kaepernick visited with players from Castlemont High School and spoke with the team in the locker room before the game, telling them that "you are important, you make a difference, this matters. Everything you do matters."

Videos began circulating early Saturday morning on social media and the internet of Kaepernick addressing the team and thanking them for their initial protest.

"I had to come support you all, because the same way you all took a stand and stood with me, I had to come out here and stand with you all," Kaepernick told the players. "So I appreciate what you all did. I love you all. You all are my brothers, I'm here with you."

The photo of the players and coaches lying on their backs, tweeted by former NFL linebacker Kirk Morrison among others, also shows Kaepernick in the background on one knee.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...rnick-joins-high-school-football-team-protest

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~Devil Trigger~

In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
so the Knicks had their press preview yesterday and Phil Jackson said he gona have a conversation about potential anthem protest with Carmelo and the team so... whatever that means.

NBA pre-season cant start soon enough
 
I don't think Melo is going to sit down or kneel, he's Captain Team USA. I'm sure pre-game t-shirts with messages will be the norm like what NBA players have been doing in the past.
 

SickBoy

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Brilliant, thanks Sherman.

I've always had mixed feelings about Sherman. I don't like his trash-talky, disrespectful persona on the field (and feel like he gets away with playing over a line that many defenders couldn't) -- but he's always seemed to be a good guy off the field. Smart, thoughtful and generally likable.

This has pretty much crystallized the latter Richard Sherman as the default Sherman for me.

I'll still hate him on the field (and his antics)... but unlike a lot of guys I've had similar feelings about, I don't think I'll ever have a problem separating the on-field and off-field people.
 

Ronin

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I've always had mixed feelings about Sherman. I don't like his trash-talky, disrespectful persona on the field (and feel like he gets away with playing over a line that many defenders couldn't) -- but he's always seemed to be a good guy off the field. Smart, thoughtful and generally likable.

This has pretty much crystallized the latter Richard Sherman as the default Sherman for me.

I'll still hate him on the field (and his antics)... but unlike a lot of guys I've had similar feelings about, I don't think I'll ever have a problem separating the on-field and off-field people.
Sherman did that to establish his brand and get paid. You don't hear much about his antics anymore cuz he's living fat now. He can just focus on balling out.

Always liked the dude.
 

Furyous

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Broadway Joe and VP Joe serve as shining examples of what 21st Century America should be. I fucks with Broadway Joe after this.


Mike Ditka will not like this picture at all. The fact that so many young people are taking a stand and making their presence felt in their community in a positive fashion is truly awe inspiring. This picture proves that Kaep's stance is the right one.
 
so the Knicks had their press preview yesterday and Phil Jackson said he gona have a conversation about potential anthem protest with Carmelo and the team so... whatever that means.

NBA pre-season cant start soon enough

Based Phil is gonna bring the fire.

Zen Master might suck as a president and GM, but I have faith he's gonna have some good ish for the protests.

I just hope Rose isn't involved.
 

Suite Pee

Willing to learn
People that give him shit for being the current back-up didn't see their playoff hopes torn asunder by this beautiful bastard, multiple times.

As a Packers fan, I hated him. But he's won me over and then some.

Also, hell yeah Joe/LeBron.
 

Squalor

Junior Member
We still have Carmelo, hopefully.

I hope a young star does it, too. Maybe a Lillard or someone. Would be fitting there since Portland and Oregon are super racist.
 
Yeah I was reading that LeBron thing going, "hm, okay, I see what you're --" then I read "all lives matter" and the head shaking began

It's unfortunate because "all lives matter" is obviously true but its use has tainted what should be a completely obvious and inoffensive statement
 
“I watched a little bit of it,” Kaepernick told reporters, via Cam Inman of the Bay Area News Group. “To me it was embarrassing to watch that these are our two candidates. Both are proven liars and it almost seems they’re trying to debate who’s less racist. At this point . . . you have to pick the lesser of two evils but in the end it’s still evil.”

i support kap but he needs to cut it out with this "they're the same!" shit
 

Mesoian

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i support kap but he needs to cut it out with this "they're the same!" shit

Eh.

I think he understands that there are fundamental differences between the two and while it is a fight of the lesser of the two evils, neither one is wholly ideal.

But let's not start pretending that either one of those folks cares about black people. I understand his frustration.
 
Maybe they are the same to him.

You cant place your reality into his.

Eh.

I think he understands that there are fundamental differences between the two and while it is a fight of the lesser of the two evils, neither one is wholly ideal.

But let's not start pretending that either one of those folks cares about black people. I understand his frustration.

i can only laugh if you think there is no difference in how hillary clinton would treat minorities as president and how trump would. fucking mind blowing
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Kaep totally won me over till the "both the same" shit.

Bye Kaep. I'm still sticking with your original breakout movement but you played yourself intellectually with that. I guess you were just a person I agreed with till recently.

Trump is a nimrod nazi baiter.


That's not the same thing as a centrist liberal old lady


You dumb shit
 

Inuhanyou

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i support kap but he needs to cut it out with this "they're the same!" shit

He's right though in that they are both fundamental evils that aren't really in it to legitimately help the people, in most ways, let alone on the issue he was protesting with his stunt.

Placing them on a scale of 'less evil' isn't really his point.

Let's not pretend to misunderstand what his political beliefs are in favor of propping up our preferred cult of personality.
 
Eh.

I think he understands that there are fundamental differences between the two and while it is a fight of the lesser of the two evils, neither one is wholly ideal.

But let's not start pretending that either one of those folks cares about black people. I understand his frustration.

They're not even remotely compatible, nor is Hillary some "lesser evil", essentially denigrating how incredibly qualified she is, and the very progressive platform she's running with, which includes being the only candidate that has openly discussed and supported the kind of issues Kaep is talking about.

It's narrow-minded nonsense that screams naivety.
 

Mesousa

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i can only laugh if you think there is no difference in how hillary clinton would treat minorities as president and how trump would. fucking mind blowing

Kaepernick didnt really say that though did he?

He said its merely a choice of picking the lesser evil, and as a POC that is objectively true.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Kaepernick didnt really say that though did he?

He said its merely a choice of picking the lesser evil, and as a POC that is objectively true.

I can't even begin to relate at a granular personal level but please link to Hillary calling you rapists, murderers and refusing to rent you an apartment.
 

Mesousa

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I can't even begin to relate at a granular personal level but please link to Hillary calling you rapists, murderers and refusing to rent you an apartment.

Thus she is the lesser evil.

It seems people want Kaepernick, who is at this point is the voice for a REVOLUTIONARY movement to get on his knees and worship at the alter of a presidential candidate. That isnt realistic at all.
 
He's right though in that they are both fundamental evils that aren't really in it to legitimately help the people, in most ways, let alone on the issue he was protesting with his stunt.

Placing them on a scale of 'less evil' isn't really his point.
Really?

You're saying HRC does not have a lengthy track record of advocating civil rights, even though you have been in innumerous threads and discussions on this forum where her record has been expounded upon. You aren't one of the juniors who pop up with 15 posts in their entire history, or the lurkers who drop into discussions to repeat ad nauseam talking points that have been addressed over and over again. At this point I think it's safe to conclude you are intellectually dishonest and completely incapable of being objective when it comes to Clinton.
 

Inuhanyou

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I originally only posted this in response to one person, but i'll put it out as a response to everyone who seems to feel like they need righteous indignation to protect either one of the Presidential candidates 'honor'.

They're not even remotely compatible, nor is Hillary some "lesser evil", essentially denigrating how incredibly qualified she is, and the very progressive platform she's running with, which includes being the only candidate that has openly discussed and supported the kind of issues Kaep is talking about.

It's narrow-minded nonsense that screams naivety.

Let's be clear:

Colin Kaepernick does not have the obligation to prop up a politician or a political candidate in favor of what his essential views on justice are just because you might feel the need to do so.

He may feel that neither Clinton, nor Trump legitimately are what this country needs, or what this country deserves in order to tackle the issues he raises.

If he does not believe that Hillary Clinton or Donald trump as political candidates for the Presidency of the United States of America legitimately care about black people, criminal justice reform, or the country in favor of their own job security, their own checks and their own egos of political posturing, that is his right to believe.

He doesn't have to automatically equate them to be 'the same' to make his point. as far as i can tell, he never said they were the exact same to begin with.
 
Kaepernick didnt really say that though did he?

He said its merely a choice of picking the lesser evil, and as a POC that is objectively true.

who is the lesser of two evils to kap? he doesn't say. based on his statement, we have no idea. maybe trump is the lesser of two evils to him? he groups them both together and basically says while there might be minor differences, you're going to get the same shit. this is literally objectively wrong.

Thus she is the lesser evil.

It seems people want Kaepernick, who is at this point is the voice for a REVOLUTIONARY movement to get on his knees and worship at the alter of a presidential candidate. That isnt realistic at all.

lol who is asking him to get on his knees and worship clinton? he can criticize clinton all he wants (you can criticize any president or presidential nominee in the history of the world, including obama, for being a liar) but there needs to be a clear point that there is a huge difference between these two candidates for minorities, which there is. that's not my opinion. that is a fact. kap is extremely naive/ignorant/whatever if he thinks otherwise. it's not about "being in his shoes"
 
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