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Rockstar Games potentially hints at Red Dead sequel on Twitter [Up: New Image]
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Rockstar wouldn't use Bluepoint, they're against using high profile porting studios using their tech. IF they have decided to outsource a Redemption Remaster, it would most likely be farmed off to the lowest bidder, as was done for the "Remasters" of the GTA titles on Mobile and PS3/Xbox 360 last gen. But that's only when they're pushed to do so, they'd prefer to do things in-house BUT also prefer to focus on new projects and just leave their old work behind.
There's a reason they turned down fixing GTA IV on PC, moving it to Steamworks, etc, when Take2 questioned the status a few years back.
The Albatross
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It's tough to identify when the American West really started as a concept, but you'd have to probably go to the 1830s or so when westward expansion really took hold. The Gold Rush wasn't until 1849, and the American civil war wouldn't begin in earnest for more than a decade after that.
The period we really think of the wild west is typically after the American Civil War, as many pardoned Confederate Soldiers were shipped out West after the war as difficult tours of duty in the Army. There's no reason if this were a prequel it couldn't still be set in the late 1800s. The death of the West, though, is just such a great backdrop for a videogame.
PhazonBlazer
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YOU EAT BABIES
Art Vandilay
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Say what?
Maxey
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Alright, so maybe just set it during and after the Civil War. Have the prologue be you fighting in the war and then becoming a gun for hire in the west after the war is over.
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Technosteve
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They making a star wars game next?
PhazonBlazer
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Just what John Marston says to
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potatohead
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Please dont' fuck this game up like GTA V with stupid focus on a shitty MP mode.
Certainly could. I mean The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is set during the Civil War. That's as classic a western as there is.
Redemption ended in 1914, so I think it's a given that whatever this is will be set earlier.
wowbaggerBR
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I expect a soundtrack as awesome as the first one.
Yep.
Jawbreaker
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Spotify guarantees that the game's soundtrack is going to be amazing for me.
You mean second.
Rip.
Still have my sealed vinyl set. Which is worth hundreds of dollars now I believe.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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I hate people who say this. Stop being a smartass. It was the first Red Dead game that actually mattered. Nobody cares about Revolver. Nobody remembers Revolver. Let people call Redemption the first Red Dead.
I need to calm down.
wowbaggerBR
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No, I don't. Revolver has nothing to do with Redemption and with this new game, stop acting like it is the same thing just because it has "Red Dead" on the title.
More_Badass
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RDR did so many things right. What I'd love to see in the sequel:
- Better melee. The hand-to-hand in RDR was weak. It's the west, bar brawls are a cliche. I'd love to see some dynamic system where you can smash bottles over heads and pick up chairs
- Better stealth. Another half-baked mechanic in RDR. Give me bows, distractions, easy-to-perform takedowns, etc.
- More involved robbery/outlaw activities. Hold-ups and the bandanna were a good start, but I hope it's expanded here
- More dynamic weather and ecosystem. Floods from rainstorms, dust storms, tornadoes, huge herds of buffalo, even more terrifying Revenant bear attacks
- Ricocheting shots, because why not
- Swimming and boats
- Better melee. The hand-to-hand in RDR was weak. It's the west, bar brawls are a cliche. I'd love to see some dynamic system where you can smash bottles over heads and pick up chairs
- Better stealth. Another half-baked mechanic in RDR. Give me bows, distractions, easy-to-perform takedowns, etc.
- More involved robbery/outlaw activities. Hold-ups and the bandanna were a good start, but I hope it's expanded here
- More dynamic weather and ecosystem. Floods from rainstorms, dust storms, tornadoes, huge herds of buffalo, even more terrifying Revenant bear attacks
- Ricocheting shots, because why not
- Swimming and boats
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
I'm glad we cleared this up. Good day, sir.
Well, Red Dead is the franchise and even Take Two acknowledges that, it's not Red Dead Redemption.
But I do think it'll be called Red Dead Redemption 2 too.
UpDownLeftRight
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Other than stealth you just nailed my wishlist. Though honestly with those other systems mentioned being more involved I'd imagine a well fleshed out stealth mechanic would probably feel more necessary. Damn fine list. I'd play the crap out of that for months. Only other thing I'd add would be expanded AI behaviors and gang members available to be brought along in the open world when you want.
FarFromAnyGame
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So you can't call it GTAV because the previous games are different?
Red Dead Redemption is the second one whether you like it or not.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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Revolver is Mario Bros. Redemption is Super Mario Bros.
Maxey
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Just steal Naughty Dog's melee system. Punch lasers in the old west!
NotTheGuyYouKill
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It'll be called Red Dead Reparations starring a black guy and a native dude as an odd couple pairing like Lethal Weapon or Rush Hour, navigating the white man's world in the midst of the lawless era of The West.
Red Dead Revolver was a fantastic game that many of us enjoyed quite a bit more than Redemption. It also had multiple and very different playable characters like this one seems will have too.
TheSecondSpitter
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Nothing more thrilling than the pulse-raising collectathons and broken economy of AssCreed 2
Rockstar Games themselves consider it the "Red Dead" series, with Revolver being the first game, after Redemption got huge they even updated the old Revolver websites with the branding and Red Dead banner. Internally file wise for Redemption the game is noted as rdr2.
Rockstar consider Redemption the second game. Take2 consider Redemption the second game. Stubborn people who refuses to acknowledge an entire game exists and think they know better than the creators just because the second one was more popular and clickbaiting articles on websites are the ones who are still clinging onto Red Dead Redemption 2.
This is the highlight for me. The fact that it's Rockstar's first current gen game I'm most excited by what they can do with the game world itself.
Gray Matter
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I love this guy, he did such a great job with the John marston character. Sucks Hollywood didn't work out for him, but he seems happy now with family which is what truly matters.
That being said, i hope that if marston is in the game in any capacity, I hope Rob is the one doing the acting
wanderingprostheyltite
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The new splash image doesn't give me hope :/
Then again I don't see R* going full multiplayer. That would be a sad day indeed.
Yea dudes trying to erase Revolver despite it not being popular are corny. Houser brothers still proudly takes the L that the game was from a commercial standpoint (at least not at the level of gta bully etc) and considers it the first in the series. They even put it out again on psn.
It's not going to be called Redemption 2 and Redemption suddenly didn't just become the only game in the series.
It's not going to be called Redemption 2 and Redemption suddenly didn't just become the only game in the series.
FarFromAnyGame
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Lol. Drive a car and glide as a cowboy? No thanks. I've got a horse!! it's the wild west! The desert's emptiness is what makes this game so good! The atmosphere in RDR is beyond everything else!
AC2 is full of collectibles. No thanks. I don't want that in a Red Dead game.
wowbaggerBR
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Oh sorry, I didn't know that earlier GTA games were developed by Capcom with a complete different approach to gameplay and the criminal life theme.
Admiral Woofington
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I hope that this release goes straight to PC instead of god knows how much later.
GravityInsanity
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If it doesn't like the first game I got a feeling there's going to be death threats.
Sure, a year later, it will come to PC xD
PHOENIXZERO
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GTA V was going to have SP DLC but at some point they cancelled it after GTAO turned out to be ludicrously profitable. It probably didn't help that so many people likely didn't bother playing through the story after online came out.
FarFromAnyGame
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it doesn't matter how different the gameplay is. Redemption is the second entry in the Red Dead franchise.
MegaSackman
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- More cohesive/better integrated story, is the main reason why is the only Rockstar game I've ever finished.
If there is one thing I hope they nail is to have LESS animals.
As I rode through certain places I felt like Dr Doolittle as there would be animals everywhere making noises even next too busy trail roads, it sort of break immersion.
I think the way they do it in GTAV out in the wilderness is better. Less animals but when one does appear it's special.
As I rode through certain places I felt like Dr Doolittle as there would be animals everywhere making noises even next too busy trail roads, it sort of break immersion.
I think the way they do it in GTAV out in the wilderness is better. Less animals but when one does appear it's special.
You (and other people) need a damn history lesson.
Red Dead Revolver was a concept game designed by Angel Studio Games in the early 2000's, it was eventually attached to Capcom as PUBLISHER. However Rockstar Games purchased Angel Studio in 2002 and purchased the rights for Revolver too from Capcom. Angel Studio was renamed Rockstar San Diego.
When Red Dead Revolver came out, it was a Rockstar title, mainly finished under Rockstar supervision, and the same staff worked on it from Concept to release including the transition of the studio from Angel Studio to Rockstar San Diego.
Capcom retained some publishing rights for the game in other countries however, similar to a deal they struck to publish the GTA games on PS2 in Japan, etc.
Oh yeah, and...
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