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Nintendo Switch Presentation - January 12th

Alright, I asked this in one of these threads and it appears it was deleted.

If Switch can not run graphic intensive Xbone ports. (It may, it may not), but hypothetically, if it can not run Xbone ports like Infinite Warfare, Destiny 2, Red dead 2, and Battlefield 1. Do you think Nintendo may look for 360 up ports to be released on the system, and do you think Nintendo will MONEY HAT third party exclusives.

I would assume Switch gets ports of Borderlands, Garden Warfare, Mass Effect trilogy remake (we know it is probably coming to all systems), and Modern Warfare remake.

Do you think Nintendo could Money hat exclusive versions of games like COD got on Vita. But a version that is actually good and not a cash grab? Do you think Nintendo will adopt an "Evergreen" strategy for third party games on Switch as well. Madden or Fifa that is not annual, but can be updated for more than one year.
 

Coffinhal

Member
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ha ha ha what the fuck
 

jmizzal

Member
Alright, I asked this in one of these threads and it appears it was deleted.

If Switch can not run graphic intensive Xbone ports. (It may, it may not), but hypothetically, if it can not run Xbone ports like Infinite Warfare, Destiny 2, Red dead 2, and Battlefield 1. Do you think Nintendo may look for 360 up ports to be released on the system, and do you think Nintendo will MONEY HAT third party exclusives.

I would assume Switch gets ports of Borderlands, Garden Warfare, Mass Effect trilogy remake (we know it is probably coming to all systems), and Modern Warfare remake.

Do you think Nintendo could Money hat exclusive versions of games like COD got on Vita. But a version that is actually good and not a cash grab? Do you think Nintendo will adopt an "Evergreen" strategy for third party games on Switch as well. Madden or Fifa that is not annual, but can be updated for more than one year.

Its gonna get a lot of exclusive games anyways, it will be the only new handheld, all those 3DS developers are not gonna wanna make mobile games and are not gonna stick with the 3DS, so they will move to Switch.
 

Coffinhal

Member
Its gonna get a lot of exclusive games anyways, it will be the only new handheld, all those 3DS developers are not gonna wanna make mobile games and are not gonna stick with the 3DS, so they will move to Switch.

Nintendo themselves said this wasn't their next handled
 

oti

Banned
What exactly do Monolith Soft games have in common with Bethesda games apart from the superficial open-world tag? What a stupid post.

You see Fallout 4 and think "yup, that's a Fallout game". I don't want the same thing to happen with Monolith.
 

TheMoon

Member
Alright, I asked this in one of these threads and it appears it was deleted.

If Switch can not run graphic intensive Xbone ports. (It may, it may not), but hypothetically, if it can not run Xbone ports like Infinite Warfare, Destiny 2, Red dead 2, and Battlefield 1. Do you think Nintendo may look for 360 up ports to be released on the system, and do you think Nintendo will MONEY HAT third party exclusives.

I would assume Switch gets ports of Borderlands, Garden Warfare, Mass Effect trilogy remake (we know it is probably coming to all systems), and Modern Warfare remake.

Do you think Nintendo could Money hat exclusive versions of games like COD got on Vita. But a version that is actually good and not a cash grab? Do you think Nintendo will adopt an "Evergreen" strategy for third party games on Switch as well. Madden or Fifa that is not annual, but can be updated for more than one year.

what 360 up ports? there are no 360 games to up port anymore. also lol. Wii U got mostly 360 ports because it was missing features such as shaders which is not going to be a problem this time.
 

jmizzal

Member
Nintendo themselves said this wasn't their next handled

Still I expect it to play the same games as the next handheld, so those games still will come to Switch, and I doubt those devs are gonna sit around and wait for Nintendo to announce their next handheld, while they can be making money right now.
 

New002

Member
Nintendo themselves said this wasn't their next handled

Personally I agree with the people that think this is true only if Switch underperforms, and that if Switch is a homerun then it will take over handheld duties. Nintendo is bascially leaving themselves an out in this scenario.
 
what 360 up ports? there are no 360 games to up port anymore. also lol. Wii U got mostly 360 ports because it was missing features such as shaders which is not going to be a problem this time.


When I said 360 up ports, I meant hd remakes Xbone and PS4 is getting also. Like Bioshock, Borderlands Handsome Jack Collection, and COD Modern Warfare remake. I would assume based on recent EA comments that Mass Effect trilogy is coming to those systems at some point.
 

sanstesy

Member
You see Fallout 4 and think "yup, that's a Fallout game". I don't want the same thing to happen with Monolith.

Xenoblade games have some of the best & most distinct world design in gaming, so of course they are very recognizable. And that's a good thing. Same as saying the Souls games being instantly recognizable & having very distinct world design is a bad thing.

Just because you don't like Bethesda games plus them having a same-ish generic look doesn't mean that's a negative for other games.
 

LordKano

Member
Level-5 just put a comment about their involvment with Nintendo Switch :

Vandal also asked Hino about whether Level-5 plans to develop games for Nintendo’s newly unveiled Switch platform.

Hino responded, “We plan to make games for Nintendo Switch, but I think it’s very important to find out the best way to get the most out of the console. For that reason, we won’t have any titles at launch, but we’ll work with it as soon as we figure out how to take advantage of it.”

They seems to have already started development but on something bigger than just a port for the launch.

Source
 

TheMoon

Member
When I said 360 up ports, I meant hd remakes Xbone and PS4 is getting also. Like Bioshock, Borderlands Handsome Jack Collection, and COD Modern Warfare remake. I would assume based on recent EA comments that Mass Effect trilogy is coming to those systems at some point.

You mean when Peter Moore a month ago flat out said EA isn't gonna be doing any remasters because that's just not what they're interested in?! :D
 

Anth0ny

Member
Level-5 just put a comment about their involvment with Nintendo Switch :



They seems to have already started development but on something bigger than just a port for the launch.

Source

but we’ll work with it as soon as we figure out how to take advantage of it.”

LOL the Nintendo third party death sentence quote returns. expect to see this a lot in the coming months.
 

LordKano

Member
Jesus Christ, I think that's similar to what he said about Wii U. Not a good sign.

LOL the Nintendo third party death sentence quote returns. expect to see this a lot in the coming months.

Care to explain how you can see this comment in a negative way ? Hino clearly said they are planning to make games on it. With the comment about the absence at launch, they must have already precise plans about what will they do on the console.

Haha there is really nothing to even take advantage of here. It's a console with normal controls that you can take on the go.

He's probably talking about the dev architecture.
 
I just hope that the launch won't be full of Wii U ports.

Honestly, I would be okay with this.

Enhanced Mario Kart and Splatoon is a homerun launch, for me. Throw Smash into the mix and it's even better. I'm sure Nintendo has a couple brand new exclusives, but Wii U ports are so much more appreciated than the usual launch fluff
 

Oregano

Member
Care to explain how you can see this comment in a negative way ? Hino clearly said they are planning to make games on it. With the comment about the absence at launch, they must have already precise plans about what will they do on the console.

He says they're going to work on it when they figure out how to take advantage of it. They're not working on right now. One of Nintendo's biggest supporters isn't working on Switch.
 

New002

Member
Level-5 just put a comment about their involvment with Nintendo Switch :



They seems to have already started development but on something bigger than just a port for the launch.

Source

What's there to figure out? Seems like a pretty straightforward system as far as Nintendo goes?
 
I know lol

I thought at the very least that kind of excuse would be gone with the switch. guess not.
Could just mean that they can't just port their 3DS games and expect them to look good on it.
They're also going from games with the primary input being the touchscreen to a system whose primary input are buttons.
Would be the opposite of Wii U situation, oddly
 

Oregano

Member
Could just mean that they can't just port their 3DS games and expect them to look good on it.
They're also going from games with the primary input being the touchscreen to a system whose primary input are buttons.
Would be the opposite of Wii U situation, oddly

Except he said it in an interview about NiNoKuni 2.
 

Kilrogg

paid requisite penance
So, I get that depending on what the exact specs of the system are, porting will prove fairly easy or fairly hard, but here's my question:

In terms of architecture and the worst-case scenario specs, how does porting from XBO/PS4 to Switch look like compared with porting X360/PS3/XBO/PS4 to Wii U? Will it still be much easier because the architecture is closer, or could it prove just as hard despite this modern architecture?

Also, Western developers have historically seemed to struggle more than Japanese developers when it comes to developing games for Nintendo systems. What about the Switch though? Should we expect Western developers to have an easier time than usual? What about Japanese developers? Are they used/will they get used to developing for a Tegra-based platform fairly quick?
 

LordKano

Member
He says they're going to work on it when they figure out how to take advantage of it. They're not working on right now. One of Nintendo's biggest supporters isn't working on Switch.

They're also planning games on it. They have already a ton of already announced games in development, they can only work in a limited amount of project in the same time. There's nothing worrying in that comment, except if you absolutely want to take the most pessimist way to view things.
 
If this was something Pokemon Co./GameFreak/Nintendo wanted to do, they'd have already done it in previous generations.
There has never before been a Pokémon game that you couldn't play on the most modern relevant hardware. The lack of 3DS backwards compatibility on the Switch makes this an entirely different situation.

I'm less bullish on it than I was a week or two ago (the leaked Pokédex implies that this may be a VERY short generation, and we know that Nintendo's going to keep the 3DS going for a while yet), but a Sun/Moon port is still perfectly feasible.
 

Oregano

Member
They're also planning games on it. They have already a ton of already announced games in development, they can only work in a limited amount of project in the same time. There's nothing worrying in that comment, except if you absolutely want to take the most pessimist way to view things.

So considering how long it took Fantasy Life and Youkai Watch to come out we might see a Switch game from them in three or four years... provided it doesn't flop.

He also doesn't actually say they have anything specific planned. Just that they plan to support the system at some point.
 

LordKano

Member
So considering how long it took Fantasy Life and Youkai Watch to come out we might see a Switch game from them in three or four years... provided it doesn't flop.

He also doesn't actually say they have anything specific planned. Just that they plan to support the system at some point.

http://www.vandal.net/noticia/1350683037/level5-ni-no-kuni-ii-no-sera-un-simple-rpg/
The original source for the interview is more precise (if you speak spanish, that is). Hino said that they have the "intention" of putting games on Switch. They aren't in a "wait and see" approch, they will support the Switch. But not at launch.
 
http://www.vandal.net/noticia/1350683037/level5-ni-no-kuni-ii-no-sera-un-simple-rpg/
The original source for the interview is more precise (if you speak spanish, that is). Hino said that they have the "intention" of putting games on Switch. They aren't in a "wait and see" approch, they will support the Switch. But not at launch.

Yeah no, after the WiiU, that Wait and See approach is not going to result in any meaningful support. Nintendo will have to claw their way to relevance back with this device. 3rd parties will release a lot of test games at best.
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
This console should have been a way to consolidate The portable side of nintendo things into the suffering home side with a tecnical leap for many portable japanese series

Instead it will be full of wiiu ports and few western multiplatform useless games

All to justify a price higher than expected probably

I smell DoA way more than wiiu
 
This console should have been a way to consolidate The portable side of nintendo things into the suffering home side with a tecnical leap for many portable japanese series

Instead it will be full of wiiu ports and few western multiplatform useless games

All to justify a price higher than expected probably

I smell DoA way more than wiiu

That sounds like a little bit (actually a lot of bit) of a stretch considering we don't know the games coming or what price the system will be.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
This console should have been a way to consolidate The portable side of nintendo things into the suffering home side with a tecnical leap for many portable japanese series

Instead it will be full of wiiu ports and few western multiplatform useless games

All to justify a price higher than expected probably

I smell DoA way more than wiiu

HOLY

GODDAMN

FUCK

Nope, can't stand this from Aostia as well. The jumping to conclusions, the dooming when it's not needed...it needs to stop, I can't stand this irrationality going on. Everything's already decided from a 3:36 minutes video and just Level 5 saying it won't be at launch, not that they're not working on the hardware. Pathetic.
 
Like it's one thing to be skeptical when you look at a trailer focusing on the newness of the console and not entirely new games as "What if third parties aren't commited beyond ports?" Which is totally fine, a valid concern.

But when a company like Level-5, which has been a partner for Nintendo for a long time with 3 long standing series based on handhelds, still says they're supporting the Switch, but have no games for it at launch? YOU ALL LOSE YOUR FUCKING COMMON SENSE AND GO DOOMSAYER ON US.

That's a record. It's astounding. I literally expected more from you guys when it comes to criticizing this thing.
 

TheMoon

Member
This console should have been a way to consolidate The portable side of nintendo things into the suffering home side with a tecnical leap for many portable japanese series

Instead it will be full of wiiu ports and few western multiplatform useless games

All to justify a price higher than expected probably

I smell DoA way more than wiiu

Where is this doom and gloom mode coming from? Close to zero games have been announced. Nobody knows what the Splatoon and MK thing they showed is exactly. No western multiplats were announced. You're just in random doom mode without any concrete foundation.
 
Wtf is going on in this thread. All of a sudden we're at the Switch is more DOA than Wii U?

Just cut that shit out. You keep letting little quotes and other negative people get into your head.

Level 5 makes the damn Yokai Watch games ffs. Where else do you think the Yokai Watch games will release on??
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
Honestly, I would be okay with this.

Enhanced Mario Kart and Splatoon is a homerun launch, for me. Throw Smash into the mix and it's even better. I'm sure Nintendo has a couple brand new exclusives, but Wii U ports are so much more appreciated than the usual launch fluff

New hardware, new experiences.

Why would I want to buy new hardware for games I already own?
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
HOLY

GODDAMN

FUCK

Nope, can't stand this from Aostia as well. The jumping to conclusions, the dooming when it's not needed...it needs to stop, I can't stand this irrationality going on. Everything's already decided from a 3:36 minutes video and just Level 5 saying it won't be at launch, not that they're not working on the hardware. Pathetic.


You should read more in my posts
You know that

It has been said by me prior to the preview that they would have positioned the console for the core gamers at first

We all saw that I was right and you know that it isnt a cohincidence

They will target it with a moderately high price, primarly as a home console, more focused on the west first

There will be wiiu ports, some western third party multiplatform games (but way less than the wiiu launch ) and very few examples of a possible actual merge in the home side of the usual strenghts of a Nintendo portable

Mark my words down (of course they will also show some brand new first party game, but the launch will be a Zelda moment from what I know )
 

oti

Banned
New hardware, new experiences.

Why would I want to buy new hardware for games I already own?

Because those are enhanced ports with new features and content. I don't see how an enhanced port of MK8 with new tracks, new characters and new game mechanics is that much different from a hypothetical MK9. Let them get those ports out and develop something new.
 

gogogow

Member
Could just mean that they can't just port their 3DS games and expect them to look good on it.
They're also going from games with the primary input being the touchscreen to a system whose primary input are buttons.
Would be the opposite of Wii U situation, oddly

Eeeeh....they ported Inazuma from DS to the 3DS.
 

I Wanna Be The Guy

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
I've been thinking about it and I've come to the conclusion that I don't want a Mario Maker port for Switch. I want nothing less than a full blown sequel. Something that blows the original out of the water. Doesn't have to come in the first year. If they can get it out in the first year, cool. If not no worries. 2018 is fine. But I want a full blown Super Mario Maker 2.

I want slopes. I want way more level themes to choose from. I want lots more enemy types. I want way more powerups. I want proper key exits mario world style and just secret exits/multiple goals in a level in general. I want lots more objects to play with. I want the ability to tweak things like the timing of moving platforms and patterns. I want more depth to the creation tools. I want the ability to put text boxes in your level. I want the ability to have pipes lead to another pipe in the same area. I want pipes that propel you. I want the ability to set objectives in your level other than get to the goal such as beat the timer, don't touch the floor get x amount of coins etc. I want the ability to put hidden special coins in your level. I want red coins too and the ability to assign a powerup to them. I want more verticality. I want the ability to create vertical scrolling levels. I want completely revamped level searching in game complete with tags and whatnot. I want the ability to put in a description when I upload my level. I want the ability to view replays of people who have played my level complete with all their failures so I can see where people are struggling. I want to be able to create a set of levels to upload for people to go though one after the other, like a mini world. I want to be able to place water in a non water stage.

I want I want I want. No port. Only full sequel. Thanks Nintendo. I know you can do it.
 
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