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[Discotheque]

Smallville's Superman was much better than this. It's like a common trend with DC Universe. Their TV Shows actors are much better than the Movie ones yet they continue to disregard the TV universe altogether and keep failing on the Movie side.

Lmao. It's fine to not like Cavill he ain't doing wonders here but Tom Welling isn't better in the slightest. Stop fooling yourselves with these ridiculous remarks. Just outright say you think the new superman is crap and leave it at that

Casting welling would have been the worst decision they made and that's over suicide squad too

 

[RDreamer]

Smallville's Superman was much better than this. It's like a common trend with DC Universe. Their TV Shows actors are much better than the Movie ones yet they continue to disregard the TV universe altogether and keep failing on the Movie side.

Personally I feel you could say this about Marvel. The Marvel shows are light years better than their movies and yet they disregard them.

 

[SwolBro]

this may have single handedly ending this kids career.

 

[Blader]

Somebody get ElNarez a flowchart for how autopsies work.

 

[ElNarez]

Somebody get ElNarez a flowchart for how autopsies work.

somebody get you a flowchart for how BURNING THINGS works

 

[Frozenprince]

I mean we've seen this narrative told with Superman before. It's not new. It's not hard to understand. It's not overly complex.

 

[Discotheque]

Plz no more flow charts

 

[Dreams-Visions]

unfortunate news.

 

[BLACKLAC]

I mean we've seen this narrative told with Superman before. It's not new. It's not hard to understand. It's not overly complex.

Superman vs The Elites is probably his best direct 2 dvd. He's actually scary as shit there.

 

[GreatEdmondo]

somebody get you a flowchart for how BURNING THINGS works

Somebody get YOU a flowchart for how burning things works.

 

[ElNarez]

okay quiz time what is this?

NO ONE TELL HIM OKAY BE COOL

 

[Frozenprince]

They didn't cremate the bodies. Cremation doesn't work that way.

 

[broncobuster]

okay quiz time what is this?

NO ONE TELL HIM OKAY BE COOL

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In fairness they do show the burnt bodies in the ultimate cut. And I won't direct link the image since, you know, they're burnt bodies. But this is a screenshot [url]http://i.imgur.com/zYggGdM.png[/url]

 

[BLACKLAC]

okay quiz time what is this?

NO ONE TELL HIM OKAY BE COOL

 

[AndersK]

okay quiz time what is this?

NO ONE TELL HIM OKAY BE COOL

You are embarrassing. Weren't you eating Christmas dinner? No no, gotta go yell like a nerd.

 

[Frozenprince]

I also think it's cheating to use the director's cut. That's not the frame of reference the vast majority of people have for the plot. It might answer some tertiary questions like the wheelchair and such, but it doesn't fix a lot of the core issues to the narrative.

 

[TheRedSnifit]

Lmao

 

[GreatEdmondo]

okay quiz time what is this?

NO ONE TELL HIM OKAY BE COOL

It didn't use to be a body. The dude used a basic flamethrower, and it sure as fuck can't do that to a human body. Nothing short of an industrial oven can do that to a human body.

 

[Blader]

In fairness they do show the burnt bodies in the ultimate cut. And I won't direct link the image since, you know, they're burnt bodies. But this is a screenshot http://i.imgur.com/zYggGdM.png

Absolutely impossible to determine from that any other cause of death than alien heat vision. CASE CLOSED.

 

[ElNarez]

my argument was that you could burn things to the point where you could reasonably conceal your involvement in a conspiracy to make Superman look irresponsible

and it is ridiculous to argue the logistics of how combustion of human tissue works, but somehow that's where we've driven this conversation towards

I'm done indulging that, have a good one

 

[AndersK]

my argument was that you could burn things to the point where you could reasonably conceal your involvement in a conspiracy to make Superman look irresponsible

and it is ridiculous to argue the logistics of how combustion of human tissue works, but somehow that's where we've driven this conversation towards

I'm done indulging that, have a good one

You're the one mocking and yelling at people while being ignorant. I think it's a good idea to stop posting. You're way to invested in a movie.

 

[GreatEdmondo]

my argument was that you could burn things to the point where you could reasonably conceal your involvement in a conspiracy to make Superman look irresponsible

Unfortunately, the film itself disproves those arguments.

and it is ridiculous to argue the logistics of how combustion of human tissue works

I had to study this as part of my degree, so not for me it isn't.

I'm done indulging that, have a good one

You keep saying this, yet you keep coming back

 

[Beefy]

Wish Eisenberg turned out to be Lex Luthor's son. Lex comes back in Justice League and kills him.

 

[MegaManTrigger]

my argument was that you could burn things to the point where you could reasonably conceal your involvement in a conspiracy to make Superman look irresponsible

and it is ridiculous to argue the logistics of how combustion of human tissue works, but somehow that's where we've driven this conversation towards

If that was the case, then why is it that people STILL found bullets in the body/part of the bigger plan? That conspiracy was built on shitty foundation and the start of the most convoluted plan I have ever seen in a superhero movie. Not even Zemo went that far.

 

[nicanica]

Batman v Superman was a master piece of shit.

fixed.

 

[broncobuster]

I also think it's cheating to use the director's cut. That's not the frame of reference the vast majority of people have for the plot. It might answer some tertiary questions like the wheelchair and such, but it doesn't fix a lot of the core issues to the narrative.

I bring up the ultimate cut not to absolve the film of its problems but to say how dumb a decision it was to omit key plot points while keeping the subplots.

Personally I really enjoy the ultimate cut of BvS, and I really enjoyed Civil War, and I believe both have heaps of problems, and I'm fine with that. Sometimes these threads get stuffy with the extremes of loving or hating these things, as entertaining as it can be to participate in them.

 

[AndersK]

I bring up the ultimate cut not to absolve the film of its problems but to say how dumb a decision it was to omit key plot points while keeping the subplots.

Personally I really enjoy the ultimate cut of BvS, and I really enjoyed Civil War, and I believe both have heaps of problems, and I'm fine with that. Sometimes these threads get stuffy with the extremes of loving or hating these things, as entertaining as it can be to participate in them.

Amen to the last part. Bears repeating.

 

[jon bones]

makes Thor 2 look like The Dark Knight lmao

 

[ItIsOkBro]

the director, the writer, the actors, the editor, they all saw this and no one stopped it.

 

[IconGrist]

the director, the writer, the actors, the editor, they all saw this and no one stopped it.

Why would they? It represents the sound made by Darkseid's mother boxes and he just got done telling Batman that "he" was coming.

 

[Frozenprince]

Why would they? It represents the sound made by Darkseid's mother boxes and he just got done telling Batman that "he" was coming.

Yeah.

You don't need him to make dinging noises to get that across.

 

[IconGrist]

Yeah.

You don't need him to make dinging noises to get that across.

No, but it fits fine with Lex's mental state at that point.

 

[jon bones]

Why would they? It represents the sound made by Darkseid's mother boxes and he just got done telling Batman that "he" was coming.

because it comes across as laughable instead of well acted?

eisnberg has talent too so you can feel the Snyder coming through here

No, but it fits fine with Lex's mental state at that point.

imagine if DC movies took more care of their characters than this

 

[GravityInsanity]

 

[Bleepey]

Autopsy would still show the cause of death via bullets.



Why didn't Lex reveal the identity of superman to everyone and ruin his shit? Much easier, less convoluted plan.

Why was superman written to be such a block head?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsGpdzHTXtg

This is the main source of confusion with people. Let's look at the witnesses testimony:

Like the sky crack open.
He came down, so many dead.
Even worse came after.
The government attacked.
No mercy in the villages.
My parents tried to run...
The world has been so caught up
with what Superman can do,
that...
no one has asked what he should do.

Let the record show that
this committee holds him responsible.

He'll never answer to you.
He answers to no one.
Not even I think, to god.

Lex wanted it to seem like Superman came down to rescue Lois. The language from the testimony was intentionally ambiguous so people will think Superman came down and killed everyone. Lex paid mercenaries to massacre the villagers and make it seem like there was a power vacuum caused by Superman attacking the rebels which allowing the Nairomi govt to attack.

The special bullets are there to force the CIA to participate in the frameup
If the bullets were revealed to the public it would seem like the US experimented prototype experimental ammunition on African villagers, playing both sides of the conflict by privately arming rebels and publically-supporting the Nairomi government
Plus the fact the US may not want to admit they recklessly carried out drone strikes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0fR2xlaIWo

 

[Blader]

my argument was that you could burn things to the point where you could reasonably conceal your involvement in a conspiracy to make Superman look irresponsible

and it is ridiculous to argue the logistics of how combustion of human tissue works, but somehow that's where we've driven this conversation towards

I'm done indulging that, have a good one

Man, you're the one going on for pages about how everyone else is too dumb to understand how burning things works. The logistics of combustion of human tissue seems like a pretty fundamental part of explaining how things burn. And I dare say that flowchart you recommended for me would be remiss without it!

Whatever. Enjoy your holiday.

 

[IconGrist]

because it comes across as laughable instead of well acted?

eisnberg has talent too so you can feel the Snyder coming through here



imagine if DC movies took more care of their characters than this

Sure, let's throw a jab because of a term I used. Would this still fit if I had said "perfectly" instead or would you have used that as an opportunity to make another ass remark?

 

[WrenchNinja]

my argument was that you could burn things to the point where you could reasonably conceal your involvement in a conspiracy to make Superman look irresponsible

and it is ridiculous to argue the logistics of how combustion of human tissue works, but somehow that's where we've driven this conversation towards

I'm done indulging that, have a good one

Your argument is stupid though.

 

[Beefy]

Thread looks like some have been drinking too much

 

[AndersK]

Thread looks like some have been drinking too much

Alcohol...can turn good arguments to gruel...

 

[Azazzel]

Flowchart for combustion pretty please.

 

[DeathyBoy]

Thread looks like some have been drinking too much

If Gaf produced Granny's Peach Tea the amount of salt would get them sent to a urologist.

 

[TheRedSnifit]

Why would they? It represents the sound made by Darkseid's mother boxes and he just got done telling Batman that "he" was coming.

This makes it less stupid than if he was just going DING DING DING for no reason, but its still pretty stupid. Especially since most viewers probably don't get it.

 

[ItIsOkBro]

Why would they? It represents the sound made by Darkseid's mother boxes and he just got done telling Batman that "he" was coming.

you're right there's no other way for a man standing in front of metal bars to make ding sounds

 

[IconGrist]

This makes it less stupid than if he was just going DING DING DING for no reason, but its still pretty stupid. Especially since most viewers probably don't get it.

I find that to be a primary issue people have with the movie as a whole. In my experience, at least. There's a lot going that doesn't make any sense to a casual viewer.

 

[DeathyBoy]

I find that to be a primary issue people have with the movie as a whole. In my experience, at least. There's a lot going that doesn't make any sense to a casual viewer.

The casual viewer doesn't care.

 

[Bleepey]

This makes it less stupid than if he was just going DING DING DING for no reason, but its still pretty stupid. Especially since most viewers probably don't get it.

It's a play on the preceding words "bell has already been rung" not just mother boxes.

 

[TheRedSnifit]

It's a play on the preceding words "bell has already been rung" not just mother boxes.

I get that.

The point is that the guy standing there going DING DING DING is stupid as fuck.

 

[hydruxo]

He was one of the worst villains I've ever seen in a comic book movie. Such a hokey and over the top performance.

 

[IconGrist]

It's a play on the preceding words "bell has already been rung" not just mother boxes.

I once saw somebody get mad because Lex says DING DING DING instead of PING PING PING, lol. There's really no pleasing some people. I think that scene would have been seen as being much worse if they went with "ping" instead.