Glitter and Gold
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Its funny the casual crowd here loves the game and the better players hate its guts. I think that says it all.
The less you play it the better it is!
Ideal circumstances for a fighting game really
Its funny the casual crowd here loves the game and the better players hate its guts. I think that says it all.
Its funny the casual crowd here loves the game and the better players hate its guts. I think that says it all.
I like this street fighter. It's the first one I've enjoyed playing for so long. It feels so fair. I have never lose a game and feel cheated. The base game is lacking, but the fighting is what keeps me playing.
I like this street fighter. It's the first one I've enjoyed playing for so long. It feels so fair. I have never lose a game and feel cheated. The base game is lacking, but the fighting is what keeps me playing.
I have never lose a game and feel cheated.
I like this street fighter. It's the first one I've enjoyed playing for so long. It feels so fair. I have never lose a game and feel cheated. The base game is lacking, but the fighting is what keeps me playing.
I like this street fighter. It's the first one I've enjoyed playing for so long. It feels so fair. I have never lose a game and feel cheated. The base game is lacking, but the fighting is what keeps me playing.
Play my Urien and tell me you don't feel cheated when you lose. Game is and has been trash. Everyone knows it, it's all about whether you admit it or not.
Wow how many threads like this will NeoGaf allow?
game needs a shitload more work to even be passable to be honest. One Vskill? One Critical Art? Shit online? Non withstanding the fact that they're ripping everyone else off? Season 2 at best can be rated a 6/10 maybe even a 4/10 to be blunt. Super Turbo was a far better game. Hell Super Street Fighter IV was a far better game. Super IV generated a ton of hype and good will with the fans by adding ten characters, second ultras, tons of tweaks. V gave us nothing worthwhile and capcom holds their hands out asking for more than the price of the game for DLC alone? Capcom can honestly get fucked And this is from someone that bought SFIV, SSFIV, AE and Ultra as consistent releases. And 2, Turbo, and Super SF2 on Snes. And I still have my launch Japanese SF2 cart. I'm going to laugh if Ultra SF2 on Switch is better. And lowering the frame count to 6.5 from 8 is still technically only one frame of removal. OHHHH! So generous capcom. When they can't even hold a consistent framerate on their levels which skew that shit to sometimes random levels of fuckery.
One V-Skill/Trigger per character is good enough and they might increase the CAs in the future. SF IV also launched with one ultra combo and just in super they added more. Akuma already has two.
I am falling to see where the game is a rip off. Either you mean they lifted concepts from other games or because of the price (which you can get the game and/or DLC discounted from time to time). If you decide to pay for the DLC since you can get a lot for free.
Online also depends on the person, here it works very well at least.
One V-Skill would be enough if they had more utility or gave more game variety. They don't. They make characters more rigid then ever and set them up for a certain playstyle and leave them far less fluid and dynamic than in past games. Either add multiple V-Skills so the character and change and evolve and go more towards what a player may like, or remove them completely. As they are right now, they don't quite work. And with V-Reversals,some people either do a blow back, or in Nashes or Fangs case, they completely dodge. They may have unique traits, but if the point of a V-Reversal is to give breathing room, why is it that some characters have better ones then others when other games make everyone's reversal just as good when it comes to removing pressure?
SFIV launched with one Ultra. But SFV already has season 2. In roughly the same time period, capcom has added a ton of stages, ten new playable characters, actual fixes, second ultras for everyone, and a functioning online play mode that wasn't fucked up at launch. On the other hand, Capcom is charging closer to 100 dollars for fucking DLC that equals LESS than the Super update to Street Fighter IV. 60 dollars for 12 characters, and a costume for each? No stages included in that? Add in the cost of stages and it starts going more towards 100 especially with that bullshit evo stage that was 20 dollars for that and a costume and one color? Nah. That's bullshit and you know it.
You can get a lot for free with fight money? You mean play the shit that most people never want to do? That shitty ass survival mode? The story that's so mind numbingly stupid that I was being sent into a Donald Trump audio enema? Or are you talking about the individual story modes which are the easiest source of money, and once you exhaust all those avenues, is just a shitload of grinding. Either online, or on that bullshit survival mode?
And what about Costumes? Very few of those can be earned with fight money. Or the stages? They cost almost as much as a character. Premium costumes? Wasn't it like four bucks for ONE costume? SFIV had packs. Those packs while a little bit expensive at least gave some value. There is no value in the cosmetics here. Even King of Fighters 14 only charges two dollars for costumes and they at least give you a new voice set with them in the case of Nightmare Geese.
Online depends on the person? I have a 200 mbps down internet and 20 mbps up. The online gives one person flawless play and gives the other one of the jitteriest shits I've ever seen. That's not fair online, that's basically lag switching the entire fucking thing in one persons favor, and fucking over the other. Either make it equally shitty for both or disconnect the game. Hell, add a wifi icon so you can force wifi players to get the fuck out. THAT is DLC I would happily pay for.
I can't blame that for my experience, I stopped playing aaaages ago, but it was certainly happening to me between release and Ibuki dropping. I just put it down to a combination of crappy matchmaking and an overall lack of bronze level players. Regardless, I would still find IV more fun to play even without the matchmaking issues. All of the characters I enjoy playing in IV, like Chun Li and Guile just feel repetitive and dull AF to play as in V.
Bro, SF4 Guile is driest he's ever been
Let's name a better competitive fighting game. Anything?
You do know that not every character will have the same tools. For example, Chun Li V-skill is useful to fill her VT bar faster and getting a quick jump-in. That's how I play, but there's plenty of people that use differently.
I do concur they could expand V-skills. Make it have more attacks or something the like. Akuma, if I am not mistaken, has 2-3 attacks in his v-skill.
Don't forget that SF IV was launched in the arcades and stayed there for a year. Super is the third year of the game.
Also, don't forget that in SF IV you had to buy the package to stay up to date with the balancing of the game. Even if you weren't going to use the characters, you had to buy it.
The seasons are somewhat expensive, but you're not forced to buy the whole pack of characters and, currently, there's the daily challenges to get some good FM. This week we have two challenges that are easy and net you 10k FM, which is 1/8 needed for a character. And season 1 was discounted throughout the year many times too so the same should applie to season 2. I believe people bought for $48 the base game plus both seasons this last holiday.
The cosmetics are much more expensive. That is true.
Trials ? Easy survival which is a 5 minute affair ? Story Mode (hey, I liked it. It's dumb fun)? Leveling up different characters?
This I agree. I would like to see more costumes purchasable with FM.
But it hasn't even been a year since the first costumes were released. We do not know if they will stay premium forever or if Capcom has the intention to sell old costumes for FM.
Sorry for experience then. My internet isn't close to your but I can play from people in my country quite well and even people on the US sometimes
Only KOF has a style that could be considered similar to SF, though. I'll never not find it silly that people offer Arcsys stuff as an alternative for Street Fighter. Also I do love KI and MKX but I don't think they're as good as SFV, personally.Guilty Gear, King of Fighters 14, Blaz Blue Central Fiction possibly MKXL or Killer Instinct just to name a few.
Only KOF has a style that could be considered similar to SF, though. I'll never not find it silly that people offer Arcsys stuff as an alternative for Street Fighter. Also I do love KI and MKX but I don't think they're as good as SFV, personally.
Guilty Gear, King of Fighters 14, Blaz Blue Central Fiction possibly MKXL or Killer Instinct just to name a few.
Games are all mechanically speaking superior and all have super stiff competitive scenes and very very educated high level play. BBCF has the lowest prize pots of any of these but most have some respectable pots each year aside from BB. Hell KI just had a ridiculous 5 figure prize pot.
There are no shortages of competitive level fighting games right now that are current and that have strong scenes across the world. Only difference is which games have the largest amount of tournaments with solid cash pots each year because quite frankly it is expensive as fuck to travel and play competitively all year. If you're gonna do it, then do it with whatever game will pay the bills. Too many fighting game tourney regulars are just living on credit card debt that keeps piling up as they chase the glory.
SF has the cash prizes to pay for its scene's troubles. Not many games have that in spite of being far broader in their toolboxes of options and mechanics than SF's limited loadout of options in basic scenarios.
That's exactly what I mean, it's just closer than the others. You really can't call any of those a good substitute for SF.Ehhhhhhh. I wouldn't call KOF similar to Street Fighter. The closest out of the others? Sure. But the styles are completely different. The closest KOF to Street Fighter would be 95.
Needs more Violet Ken DLC
That launched in Japan. The home release was the REAL game for the rest of the world. With the way that was handled that arcade version might as well not have really existed since it was mainly Japan only at that point. Let's just call it an exclusive game at that point. The real Street Fighter IV would be the home port.
Yes you had to buy the entire game to stay current with it, even if you didn't use the characters, but keep in mind that after Super Street Fighter IV, Capcom sold those at 15 dollar updates that you could download. 15 dollars for four characters, stages, costumes and other stuff is a far more reasonable upgrade than 30 dollars for six characters as a season pass with no updated stages.
The characters aren't required? That's a crock of shit and you know it. To be competitive, you have to at least have a fundamental understanding of the character you are fighting and that means using the character to gain at least a rudimentary understanding of what they are. So yes, it is required to get all the characters to stay competitive. And the fight money crap you're talking about, ok daily challenges are more like a weekly challenge since it can take 5-7 days before they refresh. But after that, what do you do, level up at 1000 fight money which is roughly 20-100 fights per level? Oh and only 50 fight money for actually winning a fight? That's grindy as hell. It's basically Capcom saying. FUCK YOU PAY ME! Don't HAVE to pay me, but I'm going to make your experience as MISERABLE as possible unless you pay me. I'm going to twist your nipples so fucking hard that a Trump steak will ooze out after you grinded enough fight money to get a character after the initial easy fight money is earned.
Trials? How many people have the fortitude to go through them all? Easy survival? Pays peanuts. I've done several of the normals and actually did hard. Fuck that shit. That's like pulling teeth. Story mode? Didn't Capcom say they wanted to rival or beat the story mode in Mortal Kombat? Their storyline was so shitty that I think it gave me Cancer. It was one of the most cringe worthy fighting game storylines I've ever experienced. I had more enjoyment with the animated cartoon series. They know they can do better. They made Street Fighter V animated series and Street Fighter II animated movie. Those were good. This? It stinks.
Which country are you from? The US is pretty big. While I can play decently with people in the west coast, I get shit connections with the southern states.
as a Mika and Ken player, I'm not playing alot of SFV S2
But gameplay wise its solid though
I don't find the netcode bad personally. I found SF4's netcode bad in that there was always a clear separation between online and offline play, but a good majority of the matches that I play and watch streamed in 5 are pretty flawless. There's no netcode induced input lag in SF5 to speak of, when it's bad it's just rollback/teleport heavy, which is typical for this style of netcode. However, SF5's issue is that it uniquely seems to feature one-sided rollback where one player can be viewing things fine while the other can be experiencing teleporting, and this is in dire need of changing.Can someone tell me how the netcode can be so bad? I played Super Turbo years ago on GGPO and until 80 ping the experience was perfect. BlazBlue, when the connection was good was amazing (my issues are with the game, not the tech).
Yes reportedly SFV has again netcode full of frequent rollbacks and heavy unputlag. On PS3, that made SFIV unplayable for me.
Ucchedavāda;228369102 said:Why don't you share some of your replays, so that we can see how unfair the game is?
I just don't like it because I found my stitch with Nash and now with his changes he feels weaker. Plus his teleport means I'm getting caught in so many things I use to escape from so I feel like I've gotten progressively worse as a player since season two. I dropped from silver to bronze and just quit playing ranked for the time being.
But I did pick up Cammy and Juri and I'm having fun with those two.
It's a better Street Fighter than 4
Play my Urien and tell me you don't feel cheated when you lose. Game is and has been trash. Everyone knows it, it's all about whether you admit it or not.
Yes. Please share. Also, how many PP do you have?Ucchedavāda;228369102 said:Why don't you share some of your replays, so that we can see how unfair the game is?
All your games are saved. Post one... That's wat he's getting at. Have you played the game?Show my replays? What replays? I'd rather actually play someone.