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Edge #303 - Nintendo Switch

zeromcd73

Member
I loved the first Gravity Rush and to date is the only game I've platinumed. Just finished GR2 today too and can perfectly understand why it would get a 6.
 

8bit

Knows the Score
Is that a Netflix type of deal but for magazines?

Sure is. For the UK at least it's got Edge, OXM, OPM, Gamesmaster, GamesTM, etc. as well as their European counterparts.

go.readly.com

(And if you've ever wanted to be horrified at the number of gun magazines the the US produces then it's great.)
 

Ferr986

Member
Zinio, where you can buy the newest Edge later today, has a desktop reader. I'll update the OP with info for all digital platforms.




'Bland combat, wayward camera, stodgy missions'

I understand (I can agree with the bad camera and some bad missions), it's just weird that they give the first one an 8 when it has even worse combat and camera. I know different reviewers but still I think mags should check these things.

I loved the first Gravity Rush and to date is the only game I've platinumed. Just finished GR2 today too and can perfectly understand why it would get a 6.

Interesting, why do you feel 1 is better? just curious.

To be fair, I think 1 has the better story and also the better rifts areas. But the rest is improved in 2, especialy gameplaywise (combat,s tyles...)-
 
I understand (I can agree with the bad camera and some bad missions), it's just weird that they give the first one an 8 when it has even worse combat and camera. I know different reviewers but still I think mags should check these things.

I think the first one got a pass because, well, it was the first one. EDGE expects sequels to provide meaningful improvements to the previous game's flaws. The review reads as though they prefer the original, and they refer to the original often.

Sure is. For the UK at least it's got Edge, OXM, OPM, Gamesmaster, GamesTM, etc. as well as their European counterparts.

go.readly.com

(And if you've ever wanted to be horrified at the number of gun magazines the the US produces then it's great.)

I'll add this to OP.
 

Ferr986

Member
I think the first one got a pass because, well, it was the first one. EDGE expects sequels to provide meaningful improvements to the previous game's flaws. The review reads as though they prefer the original, and they refer to the original often.

Thanks for the info. I guess it's fair, can't disagree with that view on the game, even if the score seems a lil harsh.
 

EmiPrime

Member
Brief synopsis?
  • Launch day lineup is slim pickings
  • Third party support worse than at Wii U launch
  • Splatoon 2 and MK8 should have been launch games but being used to pad out barren post-launch schedule
  • Led to believe that combining home console and portable businesses would get more games and that they'd come quicker but not the case
  • Console priced higher than hoped and no pack-in to soften the blow
  • Games and accessories are too expensive
  • Paid online service with one free rotating game among the bad decisions
  • Switch + Zelda is around same price as PS4 Pro and PSVR and significantly more expensive than PS4 Slim or Xbox One S with game
  • As a portable, up against smart devices and their free games
 

silva1991

Member
Aside from some annoying missions, GR2 is certainly better than the first one. I'm assuming GR2 was reviewed by another person.
 

dl77

Member
  • Launch day lineup is slim pickings
  • Third party support worse than at Wii U launch
  • Splatoon 2 and MK8 should have been launch games but being used to pad out barren post-launch schedule
  • Led to believe that combining home console and portable businesses would get more games and that they'd come quicker but not the case
  • Console priced higher than hoped and no pack-in to soften the blow
  • Games and accessories are too expensive
  • Paid online service with one free rotating game among the bad decisions
  • Switch + Zelda is around same price as PS4 Pro and PSVR and significantly more expensive than PS4 Slim or Xbox One S with game
  • As a portable, up against smart devices and their free games

Funny thing is that I agree with all those points (especially the shitty holding games back to appear that they've got a steady release schedule) and yet I've still got my pre-order!
 

KevinG

Member
  • Launch day lineup is slim pickings
  • Third party support worse than at Wii U launch
  • Splatoon 2 and MK8 should have been launch games but being used to pad out barren post-launch schedule
  • Led to believe that combining home console and portable businesses would get more games and that they'd come quicker but not the case
  • Console priced higher than hoped and no pack-in to soften the blow
  • Games and accessories are too expensive
  • Paid online service with one free rotating game among the bad decisions
  • Switch + Zelda is around same price as PS4 Pro and PSVR and significantly more expensive than PS4 Slim or Xbox One S with game
  • As a portable, up against smart devices and their free games

So the entirety of their coverage is negative?
 
  • Launch day lineup is slim pickings
  • Third party support worse than at Wii U launch
  • Splatoon 2 and MK8 should have been launch games but being used to pad out barren post-launch schedule
  • Led to believe that combining home console and portable businesses would get more games and that they'd come quicker but not the case
  • Console priced higher than hoped and no pack-in to soften the blow
  • Games and accessories are too expensive
  • Paid online service with one free rotating game among the bad decisions
  • Switch + Zelda is around same price as PS4 Pro and PSVR and significantly more expensive than PS4 Slim or Xbox One S with game
  • As a portable, up against smart devices and their free games

Honestly, it's hard to argue against any of those points.

Regarding Gravity Rush, my impression is that Edge tends to be hard on sequels if they don't improve what the original offered. So even if the first game was an 8, if the second shares the same problems it will get a lower score. And a 6 in Edge is not most likely what other sites consider an 8. I remember Ratchet & Clank, which was widely praised, got a 6 there manly because it didn't really improve the formula from the previous entries in the series.
 

Hoo-doo

Banned
  • Launch day lineup is slim pickings
  • Third party support worse than at Wii U launch
  • Splatoon 2 and MK8 should have been launch games but being used to pad out barren post-launch schedule
  • Led to believe that combining home console and portable businesses would get more games and that they'd come quicker but not the case
  • Console priced higher than hoped and no pack-in to soften the blow
  • Games and accessories are too expensive
  • Paid online service with one free rotating game among the bad decisions
  • Switch + Zelda is around same price as PS4 Pro and PSVR and significantly more expensive than PS4 Slim or Xbox One S with game
  • As a portable, up against smart devices and their free games

Hard to argue with any of these.

Switch definitely has potential, but it also has some big, big hurdles to overcome.
 

EmiPrime

Member
So the entirety of their coverage is negative?

No, they end with:

There is magic in this console: the witchcraft of changing displays, the playful, flexible functionality of the joy-cons, the intriguing new twist of HD Rumble.

...

...while it may disappoint as a home console, it's a brilliant handheld... a fully portable Wii U that supports multi-player and motion controls out of the box.

...

Perhaps there are better ways to spend your money in 2017, but nothing else on shelves may offer quite so much potential to surprise.

It's very even handed. In the letters section they say they're all going to be buying one at launch regardless of the cost.
 

Lockless

Member
  • Switch + Zelda is around same price as PS4 Pro and PSVR and significantly more expensive than PS4 Slim or Xbox One S with game

Comparisons against PS4 and Xbox One is one thing but if for the same money I can get either a whole console and what will probably be one of the best games of the year or a PSVR with no games, that's a pretty clear winner for me.

Seems a bit of an odd comparrison to me.
 
So the entirety of their coverage is negative?

No, just critical.

Their final sentence in the Switch article is

Perhaps there are better ways to spend your money in 2017, but nothing else on shelves may offer quite so much potential to surprise.

EDIT: Beaten by EmiPrime. Sorry!

I guess the last few people reading magazines want to read negative gaming news?

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Hard to argue with any of these.

Switch definitely has potential, but it also has some big, big hurdles to overcome.

Pretty much. My guess is that the Switch will become interesting once 3ds support is over, assuming that Nintendo won't release a 3ds succesor per-se, but rather a cheaper option for the Switch (like a 2DS). This way all development will be in one platform.

In any case, I suspect that the new branding, releasing with Zelda and Nintendo being more on point from a marketing point of view should make this sell better than the Wii U did.
 

Zemm

Member
Gravity Rush 2 got a 6?

Interesting, I thought the demo was crappy and I guess I was right.

I played the first game on Vita and it was poor, I played the demo on PS4 and it was poor. The 6 doesn't surprise me at all.
 

Xando

Member
  • Launch day lineup is slim pickings
  • Third party support worse than at Wii U launch
  • Splatoon 2 and MK8 should have been launch games but being used to pad out barren post-launch schedule
  • Led to believe that combining home console and portable businesses would get more games and that they'd come quicker but not the case
  • Console priced higher than hoped and no pack-in to soften the blow
  • Games and accessories are too expensive
  • Paid online service with one free rotating game among the bad decisions
  • Switch + Zelda is around same price as PS4 Pro and PSVR and significantly more expensive than PS4 Slim or Xbox One S with game
  • As a portable, up against smart devices and their free games
Kind of mirroring what i think about the Switch.

As a non hardcore Nintendo guy with a Wii U it seems i should wait until Switch is a lot cheaper.
 

SPCTRE

Member
print issue doesn't seem to be available yet on myfavoritemagazines.co.uk :(

edit: oh yeah duh, it's not a back issue yet
 
I played the first game on Vita and it was poor, I played the demo on PS4 and it was poor. The 6 doesn't surprise me at all.
Collecting gems scratched the same itch as Crackdown for me. Loved the world, even if the combat was a mixed bag and some of the quests were a bit banal. There was a lot to appreciate in ways that many super hero games fail. I find it hard to call that poor but I haven't read the sequel's review yet.
Kind of mirroring what i think about the Switch.

As a non hardcore Nintendo guy with a Wii U it seems i should wait until Switch is a lot cheaper.
The main plus was that Nathan felt no other hardware has the same potential to surprise this year. I still think VR has a good amount of surprises in store for us.
 

Vash63

Member
  • Launch day lineup is slim pickings
  • Third party support worse than at Wii U launch
  • Splatoon 2 and MK8 should have been launch games but being used to pad out barren post-launch schedule
  • Led to believe that combining home console and portable businesses would get more games and that they'd come quicker but not the case
  • Console priced higher than hoped and no pack-in to soften the blow
  • Games and accessories are too expensive
  • Paid online service with one free rotating game among the bad decisions
  • Switch + Zelda is around same price as PS4 Pro and PSVR and significantly more expensive than PS4 Slim or Xbox One S with game
  • As a portable, up against smart devices and their free games

What kind of smart device can I buy for $300 with anywhere near Tegra X1 power that includes a game controller, HDMI dock and a 6" screen? I agree on the slim release schedule though.
 
No it's not.

He's giving his opinion. He's not antagonizing anyone.

For starters, a Edge 6 is not poor. Second, plain stating something is 'poor' without any further elaboration will never lead to an interesting discussion. It's empty hyperbole. Third, it comes across as nothing more than bait.

But that's just my opinion.
 

Xando

Member
The main plus was that Nathan felt no other hardware has the same potential to surprise this year. I still think VR has a good amount of surprises in store for us.

And i agree with that but i'm not gonna buy a 330€ nintendo console on potential. They burned me to bad with the Wii U.
 

entremet

Member
For starters, a Edge 6 is not poor. Second, plain stating something is 'poor' without any further elaboration will never lead to an interesting discussion. It's empty hyperbole. Third, it comes across as nothing more than bait.

But that's just my opinion.
Standalone yes. But he's replying to someone else.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
  • Launch day lineup is slim pickings
  • Third party support worse than at Wii U launch
  • Splatoon 2 and MK8 should have been launch games but being used to pad out barren post-launch schedule
  • Led to believe that combining home console and portable businesses would get more games and that they'd come quicker but not the case
  • Console priced higher than hoped and no pack-in to soften the blow
  • Games and accessories are too expensive
  • Paid online service with one free rotating game among the bad decisions
  • Switch + Zelda is around same price as PS4 Pro and PSVR and significantly more expensive than PS4 Slim or Xbox One S with game
  • As a portable, up against smart devices and their free games

All these are fair points in my opinion.
 
Remember Edge is usually pretty tough, a 6 from them is still a good game. a 9 is more rare than other publications.

For edge standards, unless the reviewer fell in love with the game, that's about a score for a low-mid range 80 meta like Gravity Rush.

The 9 for RE7 is on the higher side.

Eager to see what type of scores they give Nioh, Nier, and Horizon.
 

boiled goose

good with gravy
  • Launch day lineup is slim pickings
  • Third party support worse than at Wii U launch
  • Splatoon 2 and MK8 should have been launch games but being used to pad out barren post-launch schedule
  • Led to believe that combining home console and portable businesses would get more games and that they'd come quicker but not the case
  • Console priced higher than hoped and no pack-in to soften the blow
  • Games and accessories are too expensive
  • Paid online service with one free rotating game among the bad decisions
  • Switch + Zelda is around same price as PS4 Pro and PSVR and significantly more expensive than PS4 Slim or Xbox One S with game
  • As a portable, up against smart devices and their free games

Hmm. The one thing I might disagree with is the launch lineup stuff. It will depend. If switch is soldout at launch no need to release all those games a launch. Padding release schedule is fine as long as more and more stuff keeps coming once supply catches up with demand.
 
What kind of smart device can I buy for $300 with anywhere near Tegra X1 power that includes a game controller, HDMI dock and a 6" screen? I agree on the slim release schedule though.
As usual, that's a moot market, of course Switch does portable gaming the best, it's a simple purpose device. Your $700 smartphone does a ton of daily life activities much more important than gaming, oh, it just so happens to double as a competent gaming device with like a gazillion titles on the app store. Whole lot of garbage, but now a ton of gems are on mobile as well.

I actually think Nintendo should have made the screen bigger. I don't think I ever want to play it like a handheld, but just prop the screen up and play with the joy cons. That way, a 6 inch screen might actually seem small.
 

Kouriozan

Member
  • Launch day lineup is slim pickings
  • Third party support worse than at Wii U launch
  • Splatoon 2 and MK8 should have been launch games but being used to pad out barren post-launch schedule
  • Led to believe that combining home console and portable businesses would get more games and that they'd come quicker but not the case
  • Console priced higher than hoped and no pack-in to soften the blow
  • Games and accessories are too expensive
  • Paid online service with one free rotating game among the bad decisions
  • Switch + Zelda is around same price as PS4 Pro and PSVR and significantly more expensive than PS4 Slim or Xbox One S with game
  • As a portable, up against smart devices and their free games

Welp, this is not starting well at all.
 
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