Damn, almost 9% today alone.
Also this. Think about parents buying consoles for their kids.
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Microsoft announced Xbox Game Pass subscription service
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Damn, almost 9% today alone.
Also this. Think about parents buying consoles for their kids.
I still don't get that, because I myself enjoy owning rather than renting the games. $9.99 to test out >100 games without having to commit to a purchase of any of them I don't like (an option that is nice since there's no refunds on digital purchases with XBL like how Steam does it), plus getting an additional discount if I do find one I want to own is still a valuable proposition to me.
Different strokes for different folks I guess.
What is the point you are making?
When you download an Xb1 GWG title, you can play it as long as you have a subscription or, should your subscription lapse, anytime you renew.
When you download a title through Xbox game pass, you can play it for as long as it's available on the service.
so the two services offer two different levels of access to the games provided in them.
MS could literally offer a game in both services at the same time, and either one could make more sense to a particular gamer than the other.
It makes 0 sense for MS to short one service In favor of then other. They stand to make the most money by making each service very appealing, and in trying to make them both more appealing than services offered by their competitors.
Those with Gold get 4 games a month (or 48 games a year) that they can play on their Xbox One. These games will always be available as long as you maintain Gold. This along with the Gold discount and online gaming is $5-$6/month or less if you buy an annual subscription.
Just to put the value proposition into perspective. I'd assume the game overlap would be rather large.
Just to put the value proposition into perspective. I'd assume the game overlap would be rather large.
KampferZeon
Neo Member
don't mind me if I only see this as a paying demo.
I like EA vault better because games never rotated out.
I buy lots of games during steam sales because I do see great value when games are so heavily discounted ( 80 % ) off !!
If MS has contractual problem with 3rd party publishers, to me it only means the service is not ready.
food for thought : if I pay both XBGL and this rental/ demo thing and gets the same games, I would feel being ripped off by MS, won't you?
not paying this day 1. but lets see how it goes after 3 months, shall we?
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Oh shit. I'm in the trial! Nice.
Depending on how many games you play and for how long, doesn't constantly streaming them end up using more bandwidth than if you got to download them? As someone with an ISP datacap I'm already strained with Vue and my normal PC & phone usage with me constantly reaching my cap each month. This Xbox feature honestly sounds much better than PS Now to me. Adding in Original Xbox games would be icing on the cake.
EatinOlives
Member
I can't hop on this due to shitty download caps but holy shit!
The only list available is from the alpha ring for testing it, and that's not the full selection of games.
I said it in some other thread that MS has been building up all these features for their platform slowly and they will be able to market these features.
Beam Broadcasting
Groups
Looking For Groups
Arena (this one is gonna be huge imo)
Xbox Game Pass
Xbox Play Anywhere
All within one year of each other. What's the icing on the cake? Scorpio. "Most powerful console ever" - PR Speak. They don't have the number of exclusives that Nintendo and Sony has, so they play to their strengths and that is software features. I think that they will build (slowly) their 1st party output but they are banking on 3rd parties once again. MS is a partner type company so that makes sense. E3 is gonna be interesting.
That's a concern of mine. I'm sure Microsoft understands 90% of subscribers to this new service will more than likely have Gold for the multiplayer aspect alone. Having too many games over lap with GwG with guarantee bad publicity out the gate.
I called this last year. Very smart move.
Psnow can end up with more bandwidth but also keep in mind that user experience depends a lot on the internet with psnow. Spikes in latency or downtime, bad routing, anything can happen that immediately affects playing games there.
gamechanger87
Member
They show H5 Guardians in the banner. I didn't know that was a GWG game.
That is going to explode this year. It being baked into Xbox and Windows 10 is brilliant.
Munki
Member
How did you manage that?
If Sony and Nintendo join in this would effectively kill off GS. Even if they do not join in, the rapid devaluation of big AAA games has been causing them serious problems with resale and trade in values. They really are up against it.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Your never gonna own these games unless you buy them. It's a rental service. Nothing more, nothing less.
I'm just asking how it's "like" paying for a demo, when IS RENTING a FULL GAME, for at least a month. Is renting a car is like going to a dealership for a test drive?
I also see value in heavy discounts, who doesn't? This is not a substitute for discounts on purchases (which xbl also has all the time), It's a rental service- an option for people who want to try a lot of games and doesn't see a need to own them all.
Who said anything about 'contractual problems'? It's licensing agreements, just like you see with every video streaming service. Titles are rotated out when contracts come to an end. Why would MS pay to have a title in forever if it stops driving users to the service?
Why would I feel 'ripped off' if a game is offered in both services? Game pass only let's you play it for a limited time, and it would just be one game out of 100+ also available. GWG let's you play the game as long as you are a subscriber. these overlaps would be temporary, and inconsequential.
It seems like you inaccurately view this as a threat to your ability to own games. Its not. It's an alternative for people who just want to consume a lot of games without spending a lot of money.
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
Depending on the game selection this can be absolutely huge. Great price regardless.
They're doing both.
It could happen with it's own published games. Much like Amazon and Netflix does.
More like Namco did that.
And next year's the 10th Anniversary of Vesperia, so...maybe they'll "remaster" it like they "remastered" Symphonia.
I can't help but think 'why isn't this on Steam in some form?' in regards to this service
Sword Of Doom
Member
I'm sure it's been asked but I'm at work and can't read a lot. Is this in addition to Live Gold?
Outrun
Member
Circle of death.
It is a separate service. It does not require XBL Gold to take advantage of the service or play SP games. You can download instead of streaming the games.
Outrun
Member
How about you stop shitting on MS?
Samurai G0SU
Member
lmfao omg.
Sword Of Doom
Member
McStickenstein
Member
Makes sense. The ultimate goal for MS, Sony, and Nintendo is to cut out the retail middleman and reap all the money that was being split off to retail channels. Killing used games sales is just a side benefit.
LukasTaves
Member
I'm on the alpha and managed to test it.
Very straightforward, you simply download an app and all the games become owned by you. And you can them individually install any of the games.
The store page for this app is a bit different than others, it works as a store within the store with different categories.
And as expected, the games follow the same rules sharing on xbone, your profile can access the games online on any console, and your home console can play these games on any account.
Oh, and the games have achievements.
Very straightforward, you simply download an app and all the games become owned by you. And you can them individually install any of the games.
The store page for this app is a bit different than others, it works as a store within the store with different categories.
And as expected, the games follow the same rules sharing on xbone, your profile can access the games online on any console, and your home console can play these games on any account.
Oh, and the games have achievements.
And devs.
StoppedInTracks
Member
Wait is that confirmed anywhere? I do not need XBox Live in order to sign up for this service?
That makes it a total gamechanger for me alone...
StoppedInTracks
Member
Is there any list of those games available even for alpha owners?
Yep, but if you want to play multiplayer of course you need live.
Where they at though?
It changes monthly. So....
StoppedInTracks
Member
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I guess this means that the Games for Gold games will be shit from now on.
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