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Kansas 04 special election results thread
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Sedgwick is barely in.
CarpeDeezNutz
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It's like watching r/place but I can't place a tile.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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anti-Trump fervor is high right now, but never underestimate Repubs' ability to generate anti-liberal fervor when they need to.
Eh, 2018 is a long time from now. I think Dems will get some seats back in the house and flip the senate, which would be pretty awesome. They aren't getting senate and house though.
hodayathink
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The entire House of Representatives gets voted every 2 years, so this would put a scare into every one of them that won by less than 15-20 percent in 2016.
If there is a 20+% point swing nation wide like we are seeing in Kansas, they take the house for sure.
They MUST take some state houses, senates, and governerships
No district is an island unto itself entire. The trends here are going to be reflected everywhere else in the country.
And, as I posted earlier, we're not even three months into this administration; there's well over a year of Trump incompetence yet to come. Districts like this aren't swing districts, they're the evergreen (or ever-red) backbone of the GOP regardless of whether they're in the majority or minority. If they're in trouble here, things will be much worse elsewhere.
It's virtually impossible for the Democrats to flip the Senate in 2018. Their best performance, in dream conditions, would get them to 50 seats.
The House and governorships will be where the biggest gains are realized. And if they're competing in Kansas, they can take the House.
Flipping the house seems like a less daunting task than flipping the senate in 2018 though. There's barely any republican senators up and they're mostly in republican strongholds.
bodyofanamerican
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Keep it close and convince the DNC or whoever in the party apparatus who controls funds to pour more money into these fucking races. Fingers crossed for Ossoff too!
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Yes, them.
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Yes, them.
You mean the DCCC.
RustyNails
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Man it seems that way in every freaking election.
neurosisxeno
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That would be the DCCC. They spent a decent amount of money in Kansas, but not a ton because it would likely ruin his chances--much like Montana where more money wouldn't help as much as hurt the candidate.
RPGCrazied
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And don't forget Trump had to make calls for this election, Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, Cruz all had to make speeches. That alone speaks volumes.
balladofwindfishes
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There are more red states than blue states. It doesn't matter if entire red states have the same population as a pixel on a map of California.
It wasn't in 2016, it was a favorable year for Dems. We just fucked up.
Most of the Senate seats up in 2018 are Democrats.
Flipping the House would actually probably be easier.
Ah my bad. Was just going by it being closer.
But also when you think of how many house seats there are vs senate seats they are both pretty close.
Ok so flip the house would be awesome and maaaybe gain a seat in the senate?
I wish McCain would stop being a fucking idiot and vote with the Dems.
bodyofanamerican
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Good point but what's the play? Are dems consigned to playing catchup/fake handicap to flip some of these seats?
2018 elections comes from the 2012 elections, when there was a dem wave with Obama. 2020 is when a bunch of republicans are up for re-election. Looking at the map though it still doesn't seem all that easily then.
hodayathink
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If Dems were going to do it, last year was the year for it to happen, but they lost some really close elections they needed to win (Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and the longshot that was North Carolina).
Total votes
Trump - 715
Clinton - 102
Johnson - 40
Estes - 282
Thompson - 90
Rockhold - 10
That's really surprising. Comanche Democrats got fire.
neurosisxeno
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Realistically they just need to let the GOP stay the course they are on. Every move the GOP has made since January has pissed off voters across the spectrum. This is usually what happens. Some Republican wins and spends 2-4-6-8 years fucking things up, and then Democrats win in a wave and are tasked with fixing everything. Once everything is fixed Republicans usually get full control against just to start the cycle over. I think in 2018 Republicans are going to get stomped more than people think. Especially if the Trump/Russia thing ever goes anywhere.
RPGCrazied
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Right. They shook.
So...you're saying there's a chance?
time to get the fix in. Top men are on it. top men
andthebeatgoeson
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Trump called it in.
Yes, there is still a chance.
NihonTiger90
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I'd expect Estes to win this ... but the fact they still haven't called it is surprising. And obviously, bodes well for Thompson's totals.
Same 90 voters or people crossing over? Without any evidence whatsoever, I would guess more of the former.
neurosisxeno
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Kris Kobach strikes again.
Already rigging the election!
CrocMother
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Harvey County:
58 Trump
34 Clinton
53 Thompson
46 Estes
(as of now)
58 Trump
34 Clinton
53 Thompson
46 Estes
(as of now)
bodyofanamerican
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Agreed, especially the part about the constant back and forth between the two parties.
BoogieWoogie
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Trump really did dig out the crazy assholes to vote for him didn't he?
I still don't think that is true. Almost all of the outstanding vote left is from Sedgwick county. There are maybe 8k rural votes missing and 20 - 40k votes missing from Wichita. It could get done.
maabus1999
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Looking at the precincts reporting, I think Estes may be in trouble.
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