• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Trump begging people to vote Ron Estes in Kansas early election.

Status
Not open for further replies.
RPGCrazied

RPGCrazied

Member
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump

Ron Estes is running TODAY for Congress in the Great State of Kansas. A wonderful guy, I need his help on Healthcare & Tax Cuts (Reform).
Click to expand...

So there is an election happening today in Kansas, first one after Trump winning? Its a red state, man the salt if the democrat can win there.

Don't forget Cruz and Pence both showed up in person to give speeches, the fact they have to do that in a red district says something.

http://time.com/4733441/kansas-special-election-republicans-donald-trump/
 
S

Sho_Nuff82

Member
Will the people of Kansas reverse their recent backslide into feifdom and budgetary suicide? My magic 8-ball says...no.
 
M

Mr. Giggles

Member
Is it normal for a US president to plead like this?

I always thought it was the houses that paid for and moved on behalf of its members to get the votes
 
C

Cipherr

Member
RPGCrazied said:
man the salt if the democrat can win there.
Click to expand...

Nah. Trust me. KS voters (the majority anyway) would burn that entire state to the ground under R's than even blink at voting Democratic.

Whole fucking state would have to be in ruins like a Hunger Games district for there to even be a CHANCE.

It's not happening. Eventually folks will just leave the state for greener pastures, but they aren't voting Democratic.
 
T

thestopsign

Member
Ron Estes is running in a Trump +30 district, and Republicans have been running around scared that they will lose the seat. I think the RNC pumped something like $100k into the race and have had some big names help his campaign like Ted Cruz and Pence.

Dems in the district are apparently fired up and ready to vote, so hopefully we can at least make it close.

Cipherr said:
Nah. Trust me. KS voters (the majority anyway) would burn that entire state to the ground under R's than even blink at voting Democratic.

Whole fucking state would have to be in ruins like a Hunger Games district for there to even be a CHANCE.

It's not happening. Eventually folks will just leave the state for greener pastures, but they aren't voting Democratic.
Click to expand...

If there is a state that the Republican's have almost burned to the ground, it's Kansas.
 
RPGCrazied

RPGCrazied

Member
I really want this to happen. Just think. Them losing. Add that to all the winning Trump has done so far, and all it spells is disaster.
 
H

Henry Jones Jr

Member
Mr. Giggles said:
Is it normal for a US president to plead like this?

I always thought it was the houses that paid for and moved on behalf of its members to get the votes
Click to expand...

I mean presidents will sometimes campaign for people in their party. Usually in person and not on twitter. And I feel like in the past it has mostly been for important seats or people they really like.

Most presidents in the past with approval ratings as low as Trump's generally avoid campaigning for anyone as they may end up hurting the candidate.
 
S

SuperBanana

Banned
RPGCrazied said:
Never say never. I mean, just look at who is President right now. Anything can happen.
Click to expand...

A president that Kansas likes very much.
800px-United_States_presidential_election_in_Kansas%2C_2016.svg.png
 
M

Mr. Giggles

Member
Henry Jones Jr said:
I mean presidents will sometimes campaign for people in their party. Usually in person and not on twitter. And I feel like in the past it has mostly been for important seats or people they really like.

Most presidents in the past with approval ratings as low as Trump's generally avoid campaigning for anyone as they may end up hurting the candidate.
Click to expand...

Oh ok, thanks for the info

SuperBanana said:
A president that Kansas likes very much.
800px-United_States_presidential_election_in_Kansas%2C_2016.svg.png
Click to expand...

Damn, thats red - all Kansas too eh?! Wow
 
B

balladofwindfishes

Member
SuperBanana said:
A president that Kansas likes very much
Click to expand...

This is an election the GOP could win without even trying in most other years, and now they were forced to bring in the entire cavalry because polling shows that a Dem upset is very possible.

Even taking the district down to R+2 or even R+5 would send shockwaves through the GOP. Because that would imply any R+20 or so was in very real danger of being kicked out in 2018.
 
M

mcfrank

Member
balladofwindfishes said:
This is an election the GOP could win without even trying in most other years, and now they were forced to bring in the entire cavalry because polling shows that a Dem upset is very possible.

Even taking the district down to R+2 or even R+5 would send shockwaves through the GOP. Because that would imply any R+20 or so was in very real danger of being kicked out in 2018.
Click to expand...

Yup. Estes has also run a garbage campaign.
 
S

shem935

Banned
Hey people in Kansas in these districts, go vote. I don't give a damn if you think your vote normally doesn't count, let's make this as close as possible to scare them shitless
 
A

Averon

Member
I'm under no delusions that the Democrat can pull it out in Kansas. That is the state that re-elected Sam Brownback after all. Seems Kansas would rather slit their wrists (economically speaking) than to vote for a Dem.
 
F

FyreWulff

Member
Mr. Giggles said:
Is it normal for a US president to plead like this?

I always thought it was the houses that paid for and moved on behalf of its members to get the votes
Click to expand...

No. It would be politically stupid to give a full endorsement this early in your presidency because if the guy loses it's an easy mark against your political sway.

So of course Trump does it.
 
E

ezrarh

Member
Averon said:
I'm under no delusions that the Democrat can pull it out in Kansas. That is the state that re-elected Sam Brownback after all. Seems Kansas with rather slit their wrists (economically speaking) than to vote for a Dem.
Click to expand...

At a much smaller margin on Brownback's reelection. But yeah, no expectations except for the norm...
 
C

Cesare Borgia

Banned
It doesn't matter if the democrat wins, that's not the point. The point is that we're even having this conversation. A close 2-8 contest will be big news.

2018 is shaping up to be a disaster for republicans.
 
Auto_aim1

Auto_aim1

MeisaMcCaffrey
FyreWulff said:
No. It would be politically stupid to give a full endorsement this early in your presidency because if the guy loses it's an easy mark against your political sway.

So of course Trump does it.
Click to expand...
His fight with Kasich over the Ohio Republican Party chair was far more riskier. This is nothing and a safe bet.
 
J

JohnsonUT

Member
Averon said:
I'm under no delusions that the Democrat can pull it out in Kansas. That is the state that re-elected Sam Brownback after all. Seems Kansas with rather slit their wrists (economically speaking) than to vote for a Dem.
Click to expand...

As others have said, even getting this to within 5 points is a win. This result can help moderate some of the terrible decision making. If Republican congress actually fears for their seats they will have to tone it down or even better make a split with Trump in order to preserve themselves.

If you are in this district in Kansas, vote! Special election have very low turnout, so your vote will never be more weighty than it is today.

If you are near Atlanta, Georgia, there is also another important election next Tuesday. This is a district that Hillary only lost by 1.5 percent. Vote!
 
L

Lord Frieza

Member
Yeah, even if Estes wins, and he most likely will, the fact that the GOP has to go to this lengths for a special election says a lot. It really echoes the loss of the Kennedy seat after Obama's first term, a seemingly impossible loss for Dems at the time, even though I don't think the GOP will actually lose here.
 
B

Barzul

Member
thestopsign said:
Ron Estes is running in a Trump +30 district, and Republicans have been running around scared that they will lose the seat. I think the RNC pumped something like $100k into the race and have had some big names help his campaign like Ted Cruz and Pence.

Dems in the district are apparently fired up and ready to vote, so hopefully we can at least make it close.



If there is a state that the Republican's have almost burned to the ground, it's Kansas.
Click to expand...

Honestly we don't even have to win here. If it ends up something R +4 then 2018 will be a bloodbath for Republicans. If anything it'll help us measure Dem excitement in red states.
 
T

TimHortons

Member
Has Brownback messed up Kansas enough yet? Hell he almost lost to a nobody himself.


Brownback’s standing in the electorate began to plummet; his approval rating sunk to the thirties. But the clearest sign that he was in deep trouble came in August. In the Republican gubernatorial primary, Brownback’s only opponent was Jennifer Winn, a Wichita businesswoman with no political experience and a campaign war chest of $13,596.17. Her son was facing murder charges from a botched drug deal, and she ran on a platform of legalizing marijuana. She won 37 percent of the vote.
Click to expand...
 
D

dietdracula

Member
Voted for Thompson this morning. Would love to see an upset, but having lived in this region my entire life I know it's not likely. I'm just hoping people go out and vote, but again, I'm not optimistic.
 
D

digdug2k

Member
Averon said:
I'm under no delusions that the Democrat can pull it out in Kansas. That is the state that re-elected Sam Brownback after all. Seems Kansas would rather slit their wrists (economically speaking) than to vote for a Dem.
Click to expand...
Heh. Did the public schools get to open this year even there? I can't for the of me understand how you can run a stare into the ground so much that you've got so little money on hand that you your schools are order closed by a judge, and people still voted the fuckwit in again. But I'm all for states rights in this climate. Let the red ones burn themselves to the ground. Anything to minimize trumps influence.
 
W

wildfire

Banned
Veritigo_X said:
The fact that the President of the United States is making robocalls in what's usually considered a safe R district can most definitely be considered begging. They're desperate.
Click to expand...

That in of itself doesn't make Trump himself look desperate. That's something I would pin on the rest of the party. The fact he mentions this guy would help push his Health reform plans is what clinches it as desperate on personal level.
 
N

NyMartin90

Member
LOLDSFAN said:
He's not begging.

Bad title.
Click to expand...

I agree, its called bias. I remember reading five biographies of Alexander the Great and then seeing the way they describe the same events. Its all about the little words.
If he went on his knees on live tv then thats what I'd call begging.
 
T

theWB27

Member
NyMartin90 said:
I agree, its called bias. I remember reading five biographies of Alexander the Great and then seeing the way they describe the same events. Its all about the little words.
If he went on his knees on live tv then thats what I'd call begging.
Click to expand...

You can beg without getting on your knees. But wow ya'll are hung up over the title.
 
L

Lkr

Member
I don't like trump whatsoever but campaigning for your party isn't begging. I do think trump is desperate for a W right now so he is trying to go for what should be an easy one. If he takes an L here it will be hilarious
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

President Trump advocates for Government shutdown in September
2 3 4 5
241
37K
Rebel Leader replied
  • Locked
Looking for some hope, Kansas may be a good place to look
3
1K
Dimmle replied
  • Locked
United States Congressional Special Elections
2
59
10K
Bonen no Max'd replied
Trump Brags About Election Victory to Boy Scouts, Bashes Obama, Talks Yacht Sex Story
2 3 4 5
212
32K
Alter_Fridge replied
Trump challenges states on voter fraud: ‘What are they trying to hide?’
2 3 4
193
25K
Kthulhu replied
Top Bottom