Yep, but no visuals or even a name. I doubt a multiplayer-focused Kirby game is anything major for Nintendo. Kinda like Zelda Triforce Heroes I guess.
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Nintendo Direct on April 12 (3PM PT, Switch/3DS, mainly Splarms)
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Yep, but no visuals or even a name. I doubt a multiplayer-focused Kirby game is anything major for Nintendo. Kinda like Zelda Triforce Heroes I guess.
gingerbeardman
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I have no idea how they can get the voice acting in Zelda BOTW so horribly wrong, when they can get the voice acting for ARMS and Splatoon 2 so right, in something as low budget as a Nintendo Direct!
Can't stand the voice of Zelda in BOTW. Really puzzled by the choice.
The difference in tone.
A lot of the problems you see in Breath of the Wild existed in Other M. And the latter was A LOT worse. They're not the exact same tone, but are taken more seriously by the people making the game and they don't understand how to make that work, whereas something like Kid Icarus Uprising is a lot more tongue-in-cheek.
Kirby Return To Dreamland was major as was multiplayer focused
Switch is a hybrid. What I'm saying is it makes no sense to think "because Switch is a handheld the 3DS should be dead".
Hero of Legend
Member
About time I put in my thoughts!
First of all, HOLY SHIT was this an outstanding Direct, both the pace, and the announcements at least being surprising!
THIS is to me one of the best Directs in a LONG time. I really hope they keep this up in the future!
However, I felt ARMS was terribly long and it just got to a point where I had to look at my clock to see how long the Direct was so far, not a good sign. ARMS just looks... meh. At least Splatoon won me over quickly after also being a tad "eh" when I first saw it at E3 2014, but here it's still not... grabbing me.
Thankfully the Splatoon 2 bit was the last bit so I was able to just ignore it and have it in the background to check back on later.
Highlights were of course the new Japanese games like Fate/EXTELLA, Nights of Azure 2, and the Senran Kagura game though that's not a big shock and the series debuted on 3DS. Still, it was welcome to see.
It was also nice to finally see the two games from THQ Nordic, though not the two I would've picked personally (I've said I'd have rathered deBlob, Darksiders 1, and/or Baja: Edge of Control HD).
Overall I give it an 8/10!
First of all, HOLY SHIT was this an outstanding Direct, both the pace, and the announcements at least being surprising!
THIS is to me one of the best Directs in a LONG time. I really hope they keep this up in the future!
However, I felt ARMS was terribly long and it just got to a point where I had to look at my clock to see how long the Direct was so far, not a good sign. ARMS just looks... meh. At least Splatoon won me over quickly after also being a tad "eh" when I first saw it at E3 2014, but here it's still not... grabbing me.
Thankfully the Splatoon 2 bit was the last bit so I was able to just ignore it and have it in the background to check back on later.
Highlights were of course the new Japanese games like Fate/EXTELLA, Nights of Azure 2, and the Senran Kagura game though that's not a big shock and the series debuted on 3DS. Still, it was welcome to see.
It was also nice to finally see the two games from THQ Nordic, though not the two I would've picked personally (I've said I'd have rathered deBlob, Darksiders 1, and/or Baja: Edge of Control HD).
Overall I give it an 8/10!
Return to Dreamland was as enjoyable in solo as in multiplayer. Since they're focusing on multiplayer here, I doubt it will be the same.
Seriously ? I thought they announced that it was coming to eShop and retail this winter.
Snkfanatic
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I really enjoyed the Direct. Glad to see some agree. It actually made me interested in Arms and Splatoon 2's new mode looks awesome. Also a huge fan of the rapid fire announcements. Makes me super excited for E3.
I'm actually pretty excited that Minecraft is coming to Switch so early. Yes it's on pretty much everything now but none of the other versions allow you to have the same worlds both on the go and at home. I hope it's 1080p docked though. Don't care whether the world sizes are like 360/PS3/WiiU edition or PS4/XB1 edition, since I usually keep to close to home anyway.
codemonkey
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Funny, because to me that was by far the worst thing about the Direct. The commentator at the ARMS presentation was horrible and very distracting in my opinion. Also even though I really like what I've seen from the game and I'm pretty sure I'm going to get it, I don't think this Direct really flattered ARMS. Showing the depth and strategy involved in the game was awkward, constantly pausing the fight to have that weird commentator explaining what is happening and making weak jokes in between. It disrupted the whole thing.
The commentator was better in Splatoon 2, but so far I haven't been a fan of this way of presenting the games.
That said, not a fan of the voice acting in Zelda either. Nintendo needs to hire better guys for this stuff.
You're right, the eShop-only was for the summer game.
Just copying and posting from the Nintendo Direct Youtube timestamps baby.
0:41 - Hey! Pikmin - Hey, don't care.
1:33 - Ever Oasis - This is some sort of RPG I guess? Not blown away.
2:31 - Monster Hunter Stories - As someone who isn't a big MH fan, this game actually looks fairly interesting. But if I remember correctly, did this game do poorly in Japan?
3:12 - YO-KAI WATCH 2: Psychic Specters - I loved YW2, but I still need to finish YW3
4:00 - Culdcept Revolt - I actually have the Japanese version of this game but barely played it because I was so busy at the time. I should actually try it.
4:23 - RPG Maker Fes - Seems like a good diversion if you are curious about RPG Maker but don't want to scan the internet for sprites to steal. The RPG Maker Player alone should be worth checking out.
5:03 - Miitopia - #whocares
6:06 - Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia - Always up for more FE.
6:46 - Team Kirby Clash Deluxe - Did this game come out in Japan a long time ago? I can't keep up with these Kirby games.
7:23 - Kirby's Blowout Blast - Is this a new game? Or did it come out in Japan before?
8:06 - BYE-BYE BOXBOY! - Waiting for some sort of ultimate collection for this series.
9:44 - ARMS - Looks way better than it did before, but I still need to see more before I plop down my cash day one.
17:30 - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - YEAH BABY AN OLD GAME THAT I WILL BUY
18:38 - Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers! - Waiting for it to hit $20
19:39 - Minecraft: Nintendo Switch Edition - Minecraft was consistently one of Wii U's highest selling titles, so it finally coming to the Switch is a bigger deal than many realize. It should draw new attention to the console.
20:40 - NEOGEO Arcade Archives - Gimme Garou.
20:56 - Sonic Forces - Generations 2? Fine with me.
21:39 - Sonic Mania - Real Sonic 4? Fine with me.
21:58 - Project Mekuru - Kinda reminds me of that minigame in Kirby 64 aka the best minigame.
22:37 - Fate/Extella - #musougarbage
23:05 - Disgaea 5 Complete - I haven't played Disgaea since the first one, but I have my eye on this title. I'll see what my mood is.
23:38 - Puyo Puyo Tetris - Must buy after playing the Japanese demo and hearing impressions of the original game.
24:45 - Monopoly - Everyone already quit playing halway through this.
25:16 - Rayman Legends: Definitive Edition - Might buy at a low price.
25:53 - Sine Mora EX - Seems neat.
26:21 - Battle Chasers: Nightwar - Seems neat.
26:44 - Payday 2 - Couldn't get into this series and it coming to Switch is strange. Hooray I guess?
27:16 - NAMCO MUSEUM - This is going to be overpriced and janky, I can feel it.
28:50 - Splatoon 2 - I love Splatoon, but honestly don't care about horde mode.
The hardware news didn't thrill me. More amiibos is great for people who still want more. The yellow joycons are hideous and will inevitably be bundled in with a Donkey Kong game. The separate Switch dock is good as I'm moving soon and I'm afraid I'm gonna break that thing, plus I can see Nintendo or third parties putting out dock revisions down the line. I hope this thing is not expensive considering the minimal hardware inside.
Overall, it was a solid Pre-E3 direct. A lot of good titles coming for the summer and damn, don't toss your 3DS yet.
0:41 - Hey! Pikmin - Hey, don't care.
1:33 - Ever Oasis - This is some sort of RPG I guess? Not blown away.
2:31 - Monster Hunter Stories - As someone who isn't a big MH fan, this game actually looks fairly interesting. But if I remember correctly, did this game do poorly in Japan?
3:12 - YO-KAI WATCH 2: Psychic Specters - I loved YW2, but I still need to finish YW3
4:00 - Culdcept Revolt - I actually have the Japanese version of this game but barely played it because I was so busy at the time. I should actually try it.
4:23 - RPG Maker Fes - Seems like a good diversion if you are curious about RPG Maker but don't want to scan the internet for sprites to steal. The RPG Maker Player alone should be worth checking out.
5:03 - Miitopia - #whocares
6:06 - Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia - Always up for more FE.
6:46 - Team Kirby Clash Deluxe - Did this game come out in Japan a long time ago? I can't keep up with these Kirby games.
7:23 - Kirby's Blowout Blast - Is this a new game? Or did it come out in Japan before?
8:06 - BYE-BYE BOXBOY! - Waiting for some sort of ultimate collection for this series.
9:44 - ARMS - Looks way better than it did before, but I still need to see more before I plop down my cash day one.
17:30 - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - YEAH BABY AN OLD GAME THAT I WILL BUY
18:38 - Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers! - Waiting for it to hit $20
19:39 - Minecraft: Nintendo Switch Edition - Minecraft was consistently one of Wii U's highest selling titles, so it finally coming to the Switch is a bigger deal than many realize. It should draw new attention to the console.
20:40 - NEOGEO Arcade Archives - Gimme Garou.
20:56 - Sonic Forces - Generations 2? Fine with me.
21:39 - Sonic Mania - Real Sonic 4? Fine with me.
21:58 - Project Mekuru - Kinda reminds me of that minigame in Kirby 64 aka the best minigame.
22:37 - Fate/Extella - #musougarbage
23:05 - Disgaea 5 Complete - I haven't played Disgaea since the first one, but I have my eye on this title. I'll see what my mood is.
23:38 - Puyo Puyo Tetris - Must buy after playing the Japanese demo and hearing impressions of the original game.
24:45 - Monopoly - Everyone already quit playing halway through this.
25:16 - Rayman Legends: Definitive Edition - Might buy at a low price.
25:53 - Sine Mora EX - Seems neat.
26:21 - Battle Chasers: Nightwar - Seems neat.
26:44 - Payday 2 - Couldn't get into this series and it coming to Switch is strange. Hooray I guess?
27:16 - NAMCO MUSEUM - This is going to be overpriced and janky, I can feel it.
28:50 - Splatoon 2 - I love Splatoon, but honestly don't care about horde mode.
The hardware news didn't thrill me. More amiibos is great for people who still want more. The yellow joycons are hideous and will inevitably be bundled in with a Donkey Kong game. The separate Switch dock is good as I'm moving soon and I'm afraid I'm gonna break that thing, plus I can see Nintendo or third parties putting out dock revisions down the line. I hope this thing is not expensive considering the minimal hardware inside.
Overall, it was a solid Pre-E3 direct. A lot of good titles coming for the summer and damn, don't toss your 3DS yet.
They look fantastic, love the contrast between the Yellow and the Grey Switch, I was not a fan of the Red/Blue
DrROBschiz
Member
What I dont understand is why 3DS software going forward isnt being made for both systems
I thought that was the whole idea behind the their new philosophy with switch
Maybe they are also creating all the assets in HD in order to release those games at a later date to fill Switch software gaps, don't know. I understand when people say they want every new Nintendo game on Switch, but for some of these games it makes more sense to focus the marketing for the more valuable platform right now, and that's 3DS. Kirby is a super popular franchise on the 3DS. That's where Nintendo makes the most money. That's why their focus is on the 3DS. I don't believe releasing an HD version on Switch at the same time would help them that much.
Graphics Horse
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The philosophy behind Switch was never to make porting 3DS games easy,they talked about being able to port games for platforms on the future architecture, not the current ones. Hopefully this will take the form of full cross compatibility rather than a new system with similar internals but an individual handheld lineup, as I think that would be a mistake.
DrROBschiz
Member
Thats some weird reasoning and undercutting the potential and momentum of what is still currently a hot item
Maybe these games are just being cheaply and quickly made and not budgeted for cross gen release
Yeah that makes sense.
I've had a Switch with a pro controller since day one and it's clearly a home console with an optional portable mode.
Or we could call it a hybrid.
It's beyond my imagination how people here can complain about a lack of games and straight out shouting from the rooftops that there is a software drought just like it was on Wii U. Me and my friends with a Switch don't see any issues with the lineup. In fact it's even quite the opposite. People are happy with the lineup.
Most (including me) are still not finished with BotW or finished the story just recently, but there are still sidequests, shrines etc. More than enough to get busy. Plus every week there comes at least one good indie game to Switch. MK8D is soon available, there is Lego City, Street Fighter II is upcoming, Rime etc. etc.
If you're working and maybe have a SO and maybe even one or more kids then the stuff which was released on Switch is more than enough IMHO. I'm for instance still busy with BotW, but already have Fast RMX, Snipperclips, Snake Pass, Shovel Knight and Graceful Explosion Machine. Next week I'll get Wonder Boy and this weeks Mr. Shifty looks interesting, too. See I don't say there shouldn't be more games. More games mean more variety, more options for the consumer, but I think what is currently available and announced for the rest of 2017 already gives a lot of variety and stuff to keep you busy as long as you don't play 24/7 videogames.
I honestly want to know how ppl who are complaining about a software drought live? Not counting that most of those ppl probably have one or more additional consoles or a gaming PC to game on. So what the heck is the problem?
Life is more than gaming. I just can't imagine someone can play THAT much especially since most of the time ppl in general are complaining about huge backlogs instead of too less games to play.
Most (including me) are still not finished with BotW or finished the story just recently, but there are still sidequests, shrines etc. More than enough to get busy. Plus every week there comes at least one good indie game to Switch. MK8D is soon available, there is Lego City, Street Fighter II is upcoming, Rime etc. etc.
If you're working and maybe have a SO and maybe even one or more kids then the stuff which was released on Switch is more than enough IMHO. I'm for instance still busy with BotW, but already have Fast RMX, Snipperclips, Snake Pass, Shovel Knight and Graceful Explosion Machine. Next week I'll get Wonder Boy and this weeks Mr. Shifty looks interesting, too. See I don't say there shouldn't be more games. More games mean more variety, more options for the consumer, but I think what is currently available and announced for the rest of 2017 already gives a lot of variety and stuff to keep you busy as long as you don't play 24/7 videogames.
I honestly want to know how ppl who are complaining about a software drought live? Not counting that most of those ppl probably have one or more additional consoles or a gaming PC to game on. So what the heck is the problem?
Life is more than gaming. I just can't imagine someone can play THAT much especially since most of the time ppl in general are complaining about huge backlogs instead of too less games to play.
DrROBschiz
Member
I already have a backlog on Switch lol
The direct was ok. Not great, but ok. VC announcement with a couple of games after the presentation would've helped for me.
That's on NoA though, it's top tier everywhere else (and the US one is certainly not as bad as some of you suggest from what i've heard).
But hey people are bitching about XCX's dub, so
The direct was ok. Not great, but ok. VC announcement with a couple of games after the presentation would've helped for me.
That's on NoA though, it's top tier everywhere else (and the US one is certainly not as bad as some of you suggest from what i've heard).
But hey people are bitching about XCX's dub, so
There wasn't any new 3DS game in the direct. Everything was either localizations of already released games in Japan, or games that were in development way before the Switch was revealed and are simply releasing during the summer to sell the last batch of New 3DS.
Nintendo doesn't seem to be making 3DS games anymore, beside a few projects like the multiplayer Kirby game. We have to see if it will change with E3.
The fact that these games are relatively cheap to make is obvious. A Mario Sports Collection? A Remake of an old Fire Emblem game? Another Kirby game? Of course they're relatively cheap to make.
And momentum is a thing mostly people on message boards will even think about. The majority will buy Mario Kart and be happy for a couple of months.
I'm not saying everything's great about the Switch software line-up, but offering HD remasters of those 3DS games isn't that great of a solution as some people make it out to be.
I was thinking the same way when they showed it. It's interesting to see how it will actually turn out. I have mixed feelings about it right now.
What makes you think they're not doing that?
With Switch, not with 3DS. If anything, Switch architecture may be more compatible with WiiU.
Herb Alpert
Banned
Yeah I agree completely.
But for some reasons these arguments are not taken into account here. a lot of people have already moved on from BotW. I have done 40 shrines and only one beast.
For now switch seems fine to me.
Trust me, it's easier to live when we think like we do. Must be hard for those always want to jump from one game to another they will finish in 2 days.
TLZ
Banned
NippleViking
Banned
Agree with most of this. Content was okay, but pacing and presentation were fantastic. I hope they don't cave in to pressure and do another live show for E3. Their Japanese presenters come off much stronger, and their rhythm significantly better when it's a Direct.
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong the game's amazing and it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. It's just for such a big game it makes you think is that the best you could find for her?
Everytime she pops up it's like here we go again haha
Rad Shadow
Banned
Never heard of battlechasers, but that's the only game in the direct (other than Fire Emblem) I'm interested in.
Looks interesting.
To be fair, the 3DS was actually successful. Makes sense to slowly ease out of doing 3DS stuff rather than a hard stop, especially with it having a huge holiday season last year. That plus it's a budget-friendly way into Nintendo games, at least for the time being.
However, most of what we know about right now are mostly lower-budget projects, games based on existing engines, or late localizations. Fortunately, Nintendo has enough of those to get the 3DS through this year (unless they have a big-budget game waiting for E3).
All sectors? Really? Overwatch, Destiny, Battlefront, Red Dead, Project Cars, etc. What leads you to believe those type of games or anything like them are coming anytime soon? Hope?
Publishers have been announcing games all year, I haven't seen any signs to back what you're saying. There have been signs saying the opposite.
Not sure what to say with regards to the Direct. I liked the new format, Arms looks cool but I still need more info on single player / non-one on one modes, Splatoon 2 is a day 1 purchase since its announcement but I do really like the horde mode they've shown here and am hopeful they'll include a cool single player campaign as well.
As for the rest, nothing they showed really got my blood pumping. I really wanted a surprise Dark Souls announcement, unrealistic as that may have been, or at the very least announcements of general Switch UI improvements. Guess I was out of luck.
Also, they really need to stop with retailer exclusive amiibo variants, and variants in general imo. That really sucks for completionists and people like me who only want to get a few here and there but always will feel like they are missing some in a particular sub-series (I for one refuse to buy two sets of Inkling boy and girl in two colors in the first series but that does result in me not really valuing the ones I do have anymore because they are now suddenly incomplete). That said, I'll probably end up buying the classic Cloud and Bayonetta ones as well as the Splatoon 2 ones. Oh and with so many amiibo, why not release the Box boy one as well over here? That's just a slap in the face of the people who supported this overlooked series these past few years who are into amiibo as well.
In short: nothing that really stood out, but the games I knew about looked cooler than before. Some disappointment with regards to no Switch UI stuff and the amiibo overkill was a bit much. Bring on E3!
Edit: oh yeah and yellow joy-con: nice. I might pick those up at some point though these color releases do run the risk of resulting in an urge for me to pick them all up at some point...sigh...
As for the rest, nothing they showed really got my blood pumping. I really wanted a surprise Dark Souls announcement, unrealistic as that may have been, or at the very least announcements of general Switch UI improvements. Guess I was out of luck.
Also, they really need to stop with retailer exclusive amiibo variants, and variants in general imo. That really sucks for completionists and people like me who only want to get a few here and there but always will feel like they are missing some in a particular sub-series (I for one refuse to buy two sets of Inkling boy and girl in two colors in the first series but that does result in me not really valuing the ones I do have anymore because they are now suddenly incomplete). That said, I'll probably end up buying the classic Cloud and Bayonetta ones as well as the Splatoon 2 ones. Oh and with so many amiibo, why not release the Box boy one as well over here? That's just a slap in the face of the people who supported this overlooked series these past few years who are into amiibo as well.
In short: nothing that really stood out, but the games I knew about looked cooler than before. Some disappointment with regards to no Switch UI stuff and the amiibo overkill was a bit much. Bring on E3!
Edit: oh yeah and yellow joy-con: nice. I might pick those up at some point though these color releases do run the risk of resulting in an urge for me to pick them all up at some point...sigh...
I'd imagine that Overwatch has some semblance of a chance to come to the Switch, but I doubt that the others will make it. Plus there's still games like Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite & Guilty Gear Xrd: REV 2 that could hit the Switch.
There was the recent interview with the senior folks at Nintendo who designed the Switch, and they explicitly said they viewed it as a console that was portable. That matches up with my usage. Predominantly docked, with the odd bit of handheld play.
jts
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Nintendo 2DS costs $80
New 3DS XL costs $200
Nintendo Switch costs $300
Until they can make the Switch or a version of the Switch anywhere around or south of $200, the 3DS market continues to exist, as long as it sells. Nintendo always have a presence on that price range, it's essential.
By then there will finally be a Nintendo Switch that shows the portable mode front and center on the box. Probably by early 2018.
Nintendo also had games for the DS in development after the launch of the 3DS. Pretty bad argument.
No i meant that Zelda's voice (and the VA in general) is fantastic in every other country, it's just NoA that didn't fully deliver (although she's not that bad imho).
This is where I'm at too though, for disclosure, I was also really fucking happy with the Vita.
I only have BoTW so far and I'm more than happy. I also have a gaming laptop so I play other things on there so I'm not burning through Zelda or desperate for more on Switch.
Means I can afford to be selective and only go for great games that interest me.
As mentioned before, Nintendo of America doesn't really spend a whole lot on voice acting, with one or two outliers like Kid Icarus: Uprising (because Sakurai). Bill Rogers aside, most of the VAs they hired for BotW were no-name non-union VAs. From a company as big as Nintendo (& as an aspiring actor myself), it's disappointing to see NoA cut corners in this regard.
Now that's not to say that BotW's English voice acting is absolutely god-awful, but it could have been much better if NoA actually put some effort into it like other first party companies. And with BotW being as amazing as it is, the game definitely deserves better on the voice acting front.
Content fromm all kind of sectors doesnt mean every game coming to Switch or the handful AAA releases you cherrypick every time this argument comes up. The system hasnt had one e3 yet - but you expected every AAA to magically be announced a month after launch ?
Even PS4/One had to wait their time until the devs were ready to drop some of the bigger titles - RDR or Overwatch arent your Fifa/CoD yearly releases but tentpole releases of these companies that drop every 3-4 years.
I cant help people if they have unrealistic expectation for the system and specific events to begin with. The customers that really wants and expected these titles to hit the Switch and doesnt own a PC or another console doesnt exist in my book. So basing the whole Switch lineup on the couple AAA release it wont get every year is, especially in its first year is kinda weird for me. Embrace the stuff that is there instead of hoping/wishing for games that were never planned/teased or announced.
It was weird because they had Elizabeth Maxwell as Urbosa and Sean Chiplock as Revali - and the difference in performance between them and everyone else was noticeable.
Yeah no doubt about that.
The DS wasn't a disaster like the Wii U and the 3DS was way more expensive initially.
There really is no room here to argue Switch isn't the Wii U's successor and that 3DS still has a role to play.