royox
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Difficulty modes behind a paywall is still bad. Yes, even if it's Nintendo.
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Nintendo confirms Metroid: Samus Returns Fusion mode can only be unlocked by amiibo
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Difficulty modes behind a paywall is still bad. Yes, even if it's Nintendo.
yea it's still bad but it's better than the status quo of having to buy the amiibo
They did it with Zelda:BotW, so they are no strangers to it.
They wouldn't bother making Metroid games at all if that was the case.
WickedEncounter
Neo Member
Even if i don't own a 3DS i think that this is a bad move from Nintendo.
I still want the new Samus Amiibo because it looks cool. I hope it will unlock a godmode for Prime 4 or something.
Or a Varia Power Suit skin for Fallout 4 Switch.
I still want the new Samus Amiibo because it looks cool. I hope it will unlock a godmode for Prime 4 or something.
Or a Varia Power Suit skin for Fallout 4 Switch.
For me, I found that only Smash Bros did amiibos right.
It provided innovative functionality without blocking content.
They should try to find ways that let amiibos add to the game, not take away from it.
Maybe stuff like using uniuqe ways off taking player data from one game and using it in another,ex: use the amiibo you used in another game and the character you created will come fight you as a boss with all you gear and stats since you last used it.
With each amiibo you use in a Mario game,the character will be hidden somewhere in the game, go find them all!
Stuff like that.
I don't even know what amiibos sell for or should sell for. Can't they make it 10? Has there never been 15 usd dlc or special content, or some frigging season pass? Before you guys accuse me of defending season passes, dammit. I'm outta here. Can't explain myself.
Charles Brandon
Member
Buy the fucking stuff if you want it, if you don't it, don't buy it.
All this stuff about boycotting products that you want or buying products that you don't want just to send some kind of message to the manufacturer is just so self-important. It does not matter.
All this stuff about boycotting products that you want or buying products that you don't want just to send some kind of message to the manufacturer is just so self-important. It does not matter.
I think you might be missing the nuances of why this is a much more difficult issue to solve than what you've crudely reduced it to.
D4rth Man7iz
Member
Now imagine Prime 4 amiibo-locked content.
Petrae
Member
Exclusive New Donk City area only available to Odyssey Mario amiibo owners!
I am absolutely fine with them giving things that are easily replaceable or just, IMO, ruin the experience, former being the case in Splatoon, and latter being Zelda BotW. Locking away a mode though, that's something else. The problem is the availability of Amiibo, I like to buy them(but only ones I want the figurine for), and not just the DLC on its own, we have to look at the whole picture and not just isolate them to make an argument. I would have been fine if Amiibo are more readily available, but alas.
Secondly, Amiibo owners can be happy to own the Amiibo figurine of their favourite character, at least that's how I see it, the DLC is just an extra bonus, I happily bought inkling girl before getting Splatoon, because the design is amazing. Also, their enjoyment shouldn't be ruined because people criticise a company that made the product they like/bought, people should be allowed to criticise a bad decision by the company.
Yes, I still intend to buy the other Splatoon Amiibo for collection despite finding the idea of locking a mode behind Amiibo terrible. I know, I know, I'm not voting with my wallet, I suck.
Allan Holdsworth
Member
HAL does amiibo well. Costumes/cheats is all they lock behind.
pretty done
Member
Difficulty options are now extra features (when convenient)
Bravo, this thread is glorious.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
Prime 4 will have a Sylux Amiibo that unlocks Sylux mode where you play as Sylux hunting Samus and will be a special premium 20$ super rare limited edition Amiibo.
I think cheats and spoofy costumes are the only things I'm cool with. If the Bayo amiibo unlocked Bayo-Link in BotW, that would give the amiibo-buyer a perk, and it would be something that the BotW-buyer would never have any presumption of receiving normally in the game.
Good, my MP4 game can go untainted by that garbage tier 'character'.
You're in for a big surprise, because tanabe has outright said sylux is going to be a very major character in prime 4.
at the end of Fed force, there is a cliffhanger ending with him just like the end of prime 3
Unfortunately we don't know what it is exactly yet because nintendo wants to keep quiet even though the game is out in just over a month.
Isn't this basically being part of the problem?
Not really because the amiibos are going to sell out regardless.
Right and if nobody bought them nintendo would stop locking content behind them. So everybody who bought them allowed this to happen.
"My vote doesn't matter because x is going to win regardless."
Sorry, couldn't help myself. I'm also an Amiibo buyer, I lack self-awareness.
Stop locking content behind sometimes impossible to find cheap figurines altogether. There is no way to do Amiibo well. It's a shit idea with shit execution.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
They are an extra feature, WTF are you talking about? Yes a lot of games have them from the start but it's not mandated or anything.
Vermillion
Banned
This is stupid. I don't own a New 3DS - you're telling me that if I want Fusion mode, I need a New 3DS AND the Amiibo? What the actual fuck
NoHeDidn't
Member
I know I know but what if.....what if we didn't need to buy an extra figure just buy the game.
I know its a crazy idea not having to "just buy the amiibo" after buying the game.May I ask in your infinite wisdom what if you can't find the Amiibo since people will exploit this to make bank? Or are you also ok with being scalped because Nintendo didnt think buying the game was enough to enjoy said game?
I'll tell everyone else like I've told people who have been forced to buy the same SNES/NES roms multiple times just go with the "optional" route.In this case just buy an N2 Elite Amiqqo and be done with having to buy any more amiibos to play locked paywall content.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Nothing is mandated. Map packs were never mandated. Skins were never mandated. That's never seemed to fly as an excuse for Activision or WB or Ubi or anyone else.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
Having additional content attached to amiibo was always going to be a damned if you do damned if you dont situation for Nintendo. Its very obvious why they do it but they run the risk of fans feeling burned or thinking the content isn't significant. It doesn't help that many are hard to find too.
They should make the amiibo content timed and then just upload it onto the eShop after a few months or something.
They should make the amiibo content timed and then just upload it onto the eShop after a few months or something.
Ninja Scooter
Member
The defense people are using on this can be used on anything. Going by your logic nobody should ever complain about missing content in games because none of it was ever "mandated", whatever the hell that means. They are flimsy arguments.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
My point is that it's all a matter of perspective, and when you're frothing at the mouth over the synergy of one toy with another toy then maybe it's time to take a long hard look at your priorities and figure out why inconsequential consumer bullshit makes you so mad. It's a toy; everything is an optional feature. The toy itself is optional.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
You're just being an obtuse asshole for the sake of it at this point.
Septimus Prime
Member
Fine. I'll buy the damn Amiibo. Shit.
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
He doesn't think it's a big deal and is tired of people being mad at Nintendo.
dantevsninjas
Member
Hey Nintendo, I'm interested in buying video games, not dolls.
Seriously though, it was only a matter of time before this amiibo shit got completely out of hand.
Seriously though, it was only a matter of time before this amiibo shit got completely out of hand.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I still don't understand the point you are trying to make.
My point is that I see a lot of weak ass defenses of this stuff that doesn't get applied in other cases, and if it did, nobody in this forum would be allowed to complain about anything ever again. I wish people would just be more honest about the fact that they are wiling to put up with more shit for the games and companies they like even if that can be a little hypocritical at times.
CannonFodder52
Member
I mean you were being pretty condescending yourself.
People frothing at the mouth because of little toys, etc.
comming from you that does not have that much weight tbh.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
This is bad and everyone defending it should feel bad.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
That's the thing, I'm not "putting up" with anything. It's a toy. You either buy it or you don't. It's not a moral issue. As long as it doesn't actually, physically injure anyone who gives a fuck? It's not worth the emotional investment people are putting into it. Discussion is fine; hyperbole and spite are not discussion though. Perspective.
The thing that really gets me is that you can just spoof NFC stuff with a phone for free anyway. People can have their boycott cake and eat it too.
Yep pretty much.
Ninja Scooter
Member
So then why are you here? Why don't you go into every thread on GAF where people are complaining about some aspect of games or gaming and tell them to get over it because it's not a moral issue. Throw in the #firstworldproblems tag while you are at it. See how well that goes over.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Dr. Black Jack
Member
People are frothing at the mouth over toys. amiibo are toys in every sense of the word and aren't worthy of this level of emotional response.
I've been getting into board games lately and have been watching a lot of Dice Tower stuff. They do top ten lists all the time and several of them sound pretty caustic, like "Top 10 ____ we HATE". Sure they get passionate about their likes and dislikes but the one thing they maintain is perspective. They don't call for boycotts or whine about "consumer rights" or view bad board game trends as some kind of moral issue. They are ruthless with their criticism but the ABSOLUTE worst thing they'll say is "there are better games you could play so do that" and move on. They're just board games in the end, you either buy them or don't. It's so goddamn refreshing to see a passionate discourse about dorky consumerism that doesn't devolve into a gigantic toxic shitfest like GAF almost always does.
CannonFodder52
Member
You realize that people aren't mad that toys exist or that the toys look bad, but solely the effect on the video games.
It could be birth control that unlocks stuff in Metroid, the fact that it's a toy matters very little. Downplaying it as "just toys" seems to be circling around the issue.
A Link to the Past
Banned
People are criticizing a bad business practice, not a toy. To come to that conclusion tells me you don't care enough to read what people are saying or that you legitimately do not understand.