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DOTA2 |OT15| anime only please

Wok

Wok

Member
I have watched the 10 million USD double damage rune again.

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Why does Centaur Warrunner's Double Edge spell deal no damage to Miracle-? Did Centaur cancel the spell so that he could cast Stampede? What is he afraid of, he should have kept auto-attacking!

Edit: Apparently, Mind_Control is the MVP.

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By the way, GH's fissure is crap, because it is too early. It even blocks the Necro (link to a 8MB GIF), who could have healed Miracle-.

It is okay, only because there are misplays on both sides: Death Prophet silences Miracle- while he is stunned... instead of attacking.

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Have you noticed that Miracle- was saved because Veno did not attack him at first (2 auto-attacks on Mind_Control) and also because Roshan bashed Veno?

Based on Miracle- final health (120 hp), it seems Veno would have needed 2 additional auto-attacks to kill Miracle-, because he dealt ~70 damage per attack.

I blame Moogy. He should have been able to dish up to 3 additional attacks, and 2 would have been enough. Report the carry: bad focus, bad positioning.
 
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Tart Toter 9k

Member
Hylian7 said:
Cross posting this from the TI thread:
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Great post and congrats on the marriage next year!
The difference in hero names between Chinese and English dota is pretty interesting and I especially love "Little Fish" and "Big Fish".

I really would like to go to TI at least once but for now i'll have to live vicariously through fellow gaffers.
 
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StrongArmSteady

Member
If Envy's twitter follows are to be believed (and they usually are) then i will be keeping this avatar for the forseeable future, the new lineup is as bad as NP 1.0
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#MakeArtEEzyGreatAgain
 
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JoeInky

Member
J2d said:
Are there a lot of euros playing on gaf? I've been playing this overwhelmingly solo for 3k hours but maybe now is the time to play with someone else..
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I'm UK, don't think there's loads of euros on gaf but I've played with a couple I think.
 
shira

shira

Member
Twookie said:
more like
secret.Arteezy carry
secret.Zai offlane

just like TI5 secret xd
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Part of rtours problem relates to him winning mmr. He wants to win with meta heroes so he practices with winning heroes and cr1t draft priorities but is only confident with those. If he loses with those heroes he practiced it's over. Confidence is shot.

Meanwhile you have someone like Miracle who is like cap pick me Huskar we got this.
 
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rakkadakka

Member
Misery to EG makes sense. He's one of the few experienced captains at this point who is a free agent. Esp if PPD ain't coming back.

Just need a solid carry player..
 
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Dreams-Visions

Member
rakkadakka said:
Misery to EG makes sense. He's one of the few experienced captains at this point who is a free agent. Esp if PPD ain't coming back.

Just need a solid carry player..
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everyone officially giving up on Artour as a carry at the highest levels?

I'm just not sure. He was certainly unmemorable, but he was largely playing unmemorable heroes. I feel like their upper bracket games featured mostly RTZ on Visage, Veno, and lower bracket was what? PL and TB? So 2 heroes that don't make plays...then 2 more heroes that have largely been evaluated as weak in this patch (PL and TB...is PL even a hero in this patch?). Picking them into Sven to add insult to injury.

I would have liked to see him on something stronger. Heroes like Sven, Lifestealer, Lycan...even Slark, Clinkz, Drow, or Timbersaw would have been cool to me. Those heroes group and fight (some sooner than others), terrorize the map, and can make shit happen. Veno and Visage....super meh. Not that they're bad heroes; they just don't do anything of note, you know? idk. Just not sure I'm ready to wave the white flag on RTZ just yet. But maybe it's time.
 
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Twookie

Member
Dreams-Visions said:
everyone officially giving up on Artour as a carry at the highest levels?

I'm just not sure. He was certainly unmemorable, but he was largely playing unmemorable heroes. I feel like their upper bracket games featured mostly RTZ on Visage, Veno, and lower bracket was what? PL and TB? So 2 heroes that don't make plays...then 2 more heroes that have largely been evaluated as weak in this patch (PL and TB...is PL even a hero in this patch?). Picking them into Sven to add insult to injury.

I would have liked to see him on something stronger. Heroes like Sven, Lifestealer, Lycan...even Slark, Clinkz, Drow, or Timbersaw would have been cool to me. Those heroes group and fight (some sooner than others), terrorize the map, and can make shit happen. Veno and Visage....super meh. Not that they're bad heroes; they just don't do anything of note, you know? idk. Just not sure I'm ready to wave the white flag on RTZ just yet. But maybe it's time.
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Yeah I agree with this. Give Artour a real carry and he does very well. I don't think Artour was the main problem with the EG TI run at all. rtz carried hard on that sniper druid game for example IIRC. I'm not ready to give up on my boy just yet.

To me, EG's real problem were the drafts, where they would try to pick very versatile heroes like Mirana so that they could try to outdraft their opponents and but set themselves up for an overall weak draft, with e.g. hard carry Mirana that ended up doing fuck all even with farm
 
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Hylian7

Member
At the airport yesterday, a neat little thing happened. I had time to kill and was at one of those long tables with power outlets, so I got my laptop and decided to play Dota. I was playing and this girl sits next to me, and is watching my screen. She then says "That QoP is pretty bad". I asked her if she was at TI, and she said she was. She said her English wasn't very good though, but I could understand her just fine, she was from Hong Kong, but currently living in the US. We talked about Dota for a while while I was playing, TI, etc. She was cheering for Newbee, but thinks they didn't deserve to win because they were playing terribly. She said "Their Anti-Mage should have bought A-stick [Aghs] and they might have won!" Where she comes from, they call Aghs "A-stick", and have names for other heroes or items. Generally this applies to stuff that came from Dota 1, so Lotus Orb, Dragon Lance, Hurricane Pike, Monkey King, those are all the same. It was an interesting conversation as she was watching me play. At first she thought it was League of Legends, but then saw Storm Spirit and realized it was Dota.

It's really cool to me how Dota brings people around the world together, even if there is a language barrier.
 
shira

shira

Member
Twookie said:
Yeah I agree with this. Give Artour a real carry and he does very well. I don't think Artour was the main problem with the EG TI run at all. rtz carried hard on that sniper druid game for example IIRC. I'm not ready to give up on my boy just yet.

To me, EG's real problem were the drafts, where they would try to pick very versatile heroes like Mirana so that they could try to outdraft their opponents and but set themselves up for an overall weak draft, with e.g. hard carry Mirana that ended up doing fuck all even with farm
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Watch the PL game
 
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rakkadakka

Member
RTZ has never lived up to the meme.

If he stays it's not the end of the world but if I were a player, RTZs history at Ti is radioactive.

Just like mmr the only thing consistent about his teams doing poorly at Ti is RTZ.
 
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Hylian7

Member
Alright for realizes, I'm actually gonna play solo ranked more. I'll probably ride out TI ranked until that ends, and possibly replace my regular MMR, then go from there.
 
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duppolo

Member
i played a lot of dota, but it have a terrible thing for one guy in his 30y...one game last 40 minutes! i really would like to restart playing, but a game must last not more then 25 minutes, or wife/son/job cant let me play it
 
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Qvoth

Member
ana kicked, misery to eg, zai to secret
revealed by empire's manager on vk

i guess that sumail and misery tweet is true
 
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Chris R

Member
Hylian7 said:
At the airport yesterday, a neat little thing happened. I had time to kill and was at one of those long tables with power outlets, so I got my laptop and decided to play Dota. I was playing and this girl sits next to me, and is watching my screen. She then says "That QoP is pretty bad". I asked her if she was at TI, and she said she was. She said her English wasn't very good though, but I could understand her just fine, she was from Hong Kong, but currently living in the US. We talked about Dota for a while while I was playing, TI, etc. She was cheering for Newbee, but thinks they didn't deserve to win because they were playing terribly. She said "Their Anti-Mage should have bought A-stick [Aghs] and they might have won!" Where she comes from, they call Aghs "A-stick", and have names for other heroes or items. Generally this applies to stuff that came from Dota 1, so Lotus Orb, Dragon Lance, Hurricane Pike, Monkey King, those are all the same. It was an interesting conversation as she was watching me play. At first she thought it was League of Legends, but then saw Storm Spirit and realized it was Dota.

It's really cool to me how Dota brings people around the world together, even if there is a language barrier.
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Sounds like the D gates worked out for you.

I had to go to the N gates, but there were people there playing too, even at 9 PM.

I'm at work, so fucking tired since I landed at like 1 am and had to be at work at 8 lul
 
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Hylian7

Member
Chris R said:
Sounds like the D gates worked out for you.

I had to go to the N gates, but there were people there playing too, even at 9 PM.

I'm at work, so fucking tired since I landed at like 1 am and had to be at work at 8 lul
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I actually ended up at the B gates, but still same kind of thing.
 
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rakkadakka

Member
duppolo said:
i played a lot of dota, but it have a terrible thing for one guy in his 30y...one game last 40 minutes! i really would like to restart playing, but a game must last not more then 25 minutes, or wife/son/job cant let me play it
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After my son was born I get all my dotes on 10v10 in custom games.

You can quit anytime without penalty and even go afk for awhile.

Games are faster, some heroes are super op and gold gain passive is 2x. Lots of big team fights though..it has sort of ruined me for regular 5v5.

Zai leaving EG would suck but he might want to go back to offlane and universe ain't letting that happen. Whatever the mix I hope Sumail lands on a good team he's by far my most favorite player to watch.
 
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duppolo

Member
rakkadakka said:
After my son was born I get all my dotes on 10v10 in custom games.

You can quit anytime without penalty and even go afk for awhile.

Games are faster, some heroes are super op and gold gain passive is 2x. Lots of big team fights though..it has sort of ruined me for regular 5v5.

Zai leaving EG would suck but he might want to go back to offlane and universe ain't letting that happen. Whatever the mix I hope Sumail lands on a good team he's by far my most favorite player to watch.
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that kind of dota its not dota...what is the best competitive alternative for one who want to play serious game of a moba, but with 30 min max duration?
 
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