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[Up] James Gunn fired for racism, jokes about rape and pedophilia
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
WHOA!
This is crazy, funny, and shocking all at once. The most interesting thing is how NBC reacted to it.
Lightsbane
Member
All I know is that those are some of the weirdest tweets I've ever read.
What the hell...
What the hell...
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Poor Snake-Lord... was a good run.
James T. Kirk
Member
I just get a blank page whenever I click that.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
PkunkFury
Member
You think Forbes is left wing???
And you honestly think Forbes would report on an Indie game?????
Guardians of the Galaxy is just a *tad* more impactful than The Last Night, and considering Forbes is a financial magazine, I'm guessing that matters
thequestion
Member
Did you guys know WWE had a thing called the ‘Attitude era’? Well they did. I just stumbled upon it and I’m outraged. Everyone working there should be sent to prison.
How about South Park? Talk about insensitive!!! The people associated with that show should be destroyed.
This whole thing with James Gunn is kind of ridiculous. Disney, smarten up! The world was a very different place back then.
James has given you a very successful franchise - a marvel property that was not on anyone radar. He also contributed to giving us some of the best parts of infinity war. His tweets are ancient; from another time and place.
....give me a break...
How about South Park? Talk about insensitive!!! The people associated with that show should be destroyed.
This whole thing with James Gunn is kind of ridiculous. Disney, smarten up! The world was a very different place back then.
James has given you a very successful franchise - a marvel property that was not on anyone radar. He also contributed to giving us some of the best parts of infinity war. His tweets are ancient; from another time and place.
....give me a break...
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
It may be relevant that gets overlooked in the media. Then again, the whole premise of that show to me sounds unfunny, hence the Seth Rogen example.
Disney fired him after Cernovich threw it in the open. What Disney did, was a reaction. Yeah, they did the actual firing, but Cernovich definitely lit that fuse.
But to what intent? Given that the Wiki page references that Cernovich is no stranger to these things, would his intent be to be informative, or malicious?
Well that is Disney (And a lot of big shot corps) for you. That is the least surprising bit, imo.
Spheyr
Banned
You know Hulk Hogan literally got fired for saying a few bad things in private while secretly being taped, right?
infinitys_7th
Member
Forbes contributor, not Forbes.
I thought financial publications were supposed to be good at seeing trends? They literally missed everything leading up to a figurative Great Depression.
I was just about to post this.WWE has spent close to 2 decades trying to scrub their past. Not sure if they are the models you want to point to for this situation
lifa-cobex
Member
Gunn- "It was a joke"
Count Dankula- "Definitely a Nazi"
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
I think both statements are incredibly flawed. Shrugging one of the tweets off as a joke and perhaps in relation to a comedy show that only rain for 8 episodes and thus has little lasting effect in the memories of the communities at large, that kind of tweet still looks repugnant. All the context does is showcase it was for a unsuccesful skit show around sex jokes. Which usually are the more pre-mature (bark bark bark! harr!) ones to begin with.
Equating such statements to Nazism is ofcourse, quite the take too. You know, i wish anyone of those users, including The Names/Little Helpers/pay-for-hire stand-ins would atleast get some sense of history before they make that equation. Much like how 99.99% of the outside world needs to re-educated to know the difference between an adjective and a noun when addressing women in smalltalk, regardless of which gender you are.
The term Nazi has lost all value, not exclusively because of the recent usages of today, but it definitely plays a part.
That gives me a brainfart: How do militrans people from that place address women over this? How would they like to be addressed themselves? And do they think this discussion has any IRL merit?
TrainedRage
Banned
So you would be OK with them giving PewDiePie his show back they canceled?
RokkanStoned
Member
Are we still talking about this? It was just jokes, left-wing people are hypocrites too, Disney is allowed to fire him, though they probably shouldn't over something so obviously a joke (a sign of companies being reactive and overly careful). That's it for me. Joking about pedophilia, rape and racism is ok (and doesn't make you prone to either), because the point in jokes can be shock and the absurdity of the joke itself and not you attempting to do an action. Dark humor can be quite the catharsis. The current culture of outrage, on both sides, is getting extremely tiring. "This guy/gal said so and so!!!! Should be shot and buried in the ground and pissed on the grave! ". The amount of hypocrisy that permeate across the polarized ideological arena is astounding. People more interested in fighting and demonizing the other, instead of having civilized discussions and saying "I think you are wrong, but I respect your right to argue and identify with your position".
Despite a few cringey threads (mostly low-effort political ones) and some cringe posts (from both sides, mind you), I love the environment of the NeoGAF now, where I might see people with completely different point of views argue and explore the limits of their point of view or test their rhetorical abilities, and where I might even think "you are both right" or at least "I see where both of you come from". I also love that we have a great moderation team that are careful and wise in regards to intervening in a thread/discussion. Especially that we're not plagued with User warned/banned: Arguing in bad faith, a history of x, downplaying misogyny, trolling, etc. in just about every thread where someone goes against the status quo.
Despite a few cringey threads (mostly low-effort political ones) and some cringe posts (from both sides, mind you), I love the environment of the NeoGAF now, where I might see people with completely different point of views argue and explore the limits of their point of view or test their rhetorical abilities, and where I might even think "you are both right" or at least "I see where both of you come from". I also love that we have a great moderation team that are careful and wise in regards to intervening in a thread/discussion. Especially that we're not plagued with User warned/banned: Arguing in bad faith, a history of x, downplaying misogyny, trolling, etc. in just about every thread where someone goes against the status quo.
Captain Zyrain
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EverydayBeast
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Meh, directors are replaceable. Actors carry the movie and breakthrough whatever shit the directors set up anyway.
James T. Kirk
Member
Oh here we go.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
He was a writer too.
Spheyr
Banned
Rich liberals.
infinitys_7th
Member
But yeah, it's just rich liberals. I hope people won't let the big media shield themselves from criticism with a shield of historical anti-Semitism.
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RokkanStoned
Member
Not just rich liberals, also rich conservatives.
You would do better in citing journalists less likely to be republicans or you could cite various media's target audience or urban locations schewing. Or overall changes in type of news content and profiling of it. Better than "hurr durr rich liberals".
Gander
Banned
One last piece I wanted to say about this. People are worried that society is overracting but think of it like this there are so many people who got away with it.
I was listening to sports radio and they mentioned Ben Roethlisberger , I forgot all about how this guy got away with straight up rape. The hall of famer Peyton Manning laid his genitals on a trainers face, then harassed her afterwards not to tell. They will be extra hard on the people who cross the line because there are some they can't get to.
I was listening to sports radio and they mentioned Ben Roethlisberger , I forgot all about how this guy got away with straight up rape. The hall of famer Peyton Manning laid his genitals on a trainers face, then harassed her afterwards not to tell. They will be extra hard on the people who cross the line because there are some they can't get to.
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mckmas8808
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And those things have been happening for decades. Like 40+ years!
klosos
Member
Being British i don't know much about american sports , but is this why you call it a touchdown !!
Spheyr
Banned
An accusation doesn't mean he did it.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Sure....but it's pretty clear he did it. Look at what happened afterwards.
James T. Kirk
Member
Try saying that on ResetEra.
Spheyr
Banned
Uh... one he was sued in civil court and settled out of court (A.K.A accused by a gold digger and it was cheaper to pay to make it go away) and the other the supposed victim withdrew her complaint?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Bruh! This has been vetted pretty well. You call her a gold digger, but most people will view it as Peyton using his money to get away from a situation that happened that's terrible for his image.
Less than three hours after the Feb. 29, 1996, training room incident, then-trainer Jamie Naughright called a Knoxville sexual assault crisis center hotline and said she had been victimized that evening by a "very well-known public figure ... an athlete at UT" and that she had already reported the incident to her supervisor. Manning was never the subject of a criminal investigation in the incident. But in a 1996 complaint against the University of Tennessee, Naughright accused Manning of assaulting her while she examined his ankle. Manning has denied that he assaulted her, saying instead that he was "mooning" another athlete. But that athlete, cross-country runner Malcolm Saxon, disputed Manning's account in an affidavit and said both he and Naughright were shocked by the incident at the time. Naughright agreed to leave the university as part of a $300,000 settlement.
According to the notes, "Rollo told her tonite ... I don't think this is best handled by press or police." That description resembles what Rollo later said in a deposition related to the lawsuit: That he had seen Naughright at a friend's house that evening and that they should not call the police or media. The incident was never reported to police. Rollo said in his deposition that Naughright never described the incident as a "mooning" and he had come up with the description. In his deposition, he said he regretted it.
The official university investigation in 1997 termed the incident "horseplay that cannot be prevented" after interviewing Naughright, Manning and Saxon. Saxon, in the affidavit in the defamation case, disputed that he was quoted accurately. The University of Tennessee has declined to discuss the investigation since it was completed in 1997 and did not return a phone call from ESPN. Saxon was not deposed in the lawsuit. Reached last week, he said in a text, "I have said 'no comment' for 20 years. I have moved on."
http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/...al-assault-crisis-center-report-1996-incidentAccording to the notes, "Rollo told her tonite ... I don't think this is best handled by press or police." That description resembles what Rollo later said in a deposition related to the lawsuit: That he had seen Naughright at a friend's house that evening and that they should not call the police or media. The incident was never reported to police. Rollo said in his deposition that Naughright never described the incident as a "mooning" and he had come up with the description. In his deposition, he said he regretted it.
The official university investigation in 1997 termed the incident "horseplay that cannot be prevented" after interviewing Naughright, Manning and Saxon. Saxon, in the affidavit in the defamation case, disputed that he was quoted accurately. The University of Tennessee has declined to discuss the investigation since it was completed in 1997 and did not return a phone call from ESPN. Saxon was not deposed in the lawsuit. Reached last week, he said in a text, "I have said 'no comment' for 20 years. I have moved on."
Like come on man. It's ok to admit that men screw up sometimes.
Spheyr
Banned
Who the fuck is talking about Peyton Manning?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Spheyr
Banned
Then why were you responding to me?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Because you responded to him. But I now see you were responding to the Ben part and not the Peyton part.
lifa-cobex
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Burn twitter down.
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Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
Twitter’s stock fell 20% lol. Itshappening.gif
lifa-cobex
Member
It's a turd in the toilet that wont flush.
You gotta get your hand in their and give it a little push.
Or a potato masher.
FLUUUSH YOU FUCK!! YOU'RE EMBARRASSING ME.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I'd be funny if Twitter's stock really did fall in real life.
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DeepEnigma
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iconmaster
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The problem is if James Gunn is reinstated, Disney will instantly be under pressure to undo the Roseanne decision. (Perhaps a false equivalency, but there it is.)
McCheese
Member
Nice to see the whole crew banding together, not sure what the message is there as it falls short of demanding he gets re-hired. He said stupid shit but is a decent guy? so what. Decent folks get fired for saying stupid shit all the time. I don't think Disney ever painted the guy in a poor light, they just fired him without much discussion.
As for the future of GotG, the script for Vol.3 was already written so hopefully they can find another director to bring it to life. I hope with the change of director they stop trying to shoe-horn Sean Gun into the film. He was okay in very short doses in Vol.1, but setting him up to be a major character in Vol.2 had me worried.
As for the future of GotG, the script for Vol.3 was already written so hopefully they can find another director to bring it to life. I hope with the change of director they stop trying to shoe-horn Sean Gun into the film. He was okay in very short doses in Vol.1, but setting him up to be a major character in Vol.2 had me worried.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
This is true.
Let us see if any of these actors decides to protest their roles if they truly believe in their cause, and make a stand. Otherwise, it is another paper tiger scenario.
Cybrwzrd
Banned
Or a poop knife.
lifa-cobex
Member
LegendOfKage
Gold Member
While a nice thought, they're likely all under contract, so I can't see them being able to do this.
As I see it, the message is: we're not happy about this, we need to stop letting mob mentality ruin lives, we also need to be careful not to enable those mobs in the first place.