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[Dunki]

Looks like we have another scam artist going around cashing in on that kickstarter money. Remember Zoe Quinn? 3 Years ago she started a kcikstarter campaign for a FMV game called Kickstarted in the Butt (I think thats the name) and raised over 85k . But it has become really silent. Zoe and CO ignoring peoples questions since over 6 months and the last development Update was in August 2017. Interesting is also that people like Jim Sterling back than promoted this game but he also has become very silent about this game.

Project Tingler’s developers have ignored repeated attempts at contact outside of Kickstarter via both e-mail and social media. Twitter messages to both lead developer Zoe Quinn (@UnburntWitch) and project manager John E. Warren (@FloppyAdult) remain unanswered despite being active users of the platform. Games Journalist Jim Sterling (@JimSterling), whose name and participation lent credibility to the fundraising campaign, has also ignored contact attempts. Other “core team” members include Karla Pacheco (@THEKarlaPacheco), Elby Teufel (@hunktears), and Seth Boyer (@sethboyer).

The $85,448 raised by fans and supporters of indie game development, women in tech, and anti-harassment advocacy remains unaccounted for.

http://kickscammed.com/project/proj...zoe-quinn-chuck-tingle-fmv-game/#.W4GtyOgzaUm

I wonder if any games "journalist" will write anything about it. MY guess is no they will not.

 

[Ulysses 31]

The fear of being called a misogynist or a gamergater.

 

[dirthead]

Ignoring all the political bullcrap, the unfortunate truth seems to be that most crowdfunded projects are failures and/or disappointments.

Even something like Bloodstained is a dud, really. The game just isn't that good. The vast majority of these projects don't turn out well.

 

[LegendOfKage]

Ignoring all the political bullcrap, the unfortunate truth seems to be that most crowdfunded projects are failures and/or disappointments.

Even something like Bloodstained is a dud, really. The game just isn't that good. The vast majority of these projects don't turn out well.

The game isn't even out, and was pushed back specifically due to feedback from a preview build. I don't think it's quite fair to say it's a dud. It hasn't been released yet.

 

[dirthead]

The game isn't even out, and was pushed back specifically due to feedback from a preview build. I don't think it's quite fair to say it's a dud. It hasn't been released yet.

I know that, but there's no way they're going to completely redo the art in the game, which they would basically have to do for it to be what people want. It ain't gonna happen. I'd bet large amounts of money that it'll end up a disappointment to most.

 

[Grinchy]

This same thing happened to me when I invested into a dinosaur coloring book that took forever to come out.

 

[Fuz]

Well. Supporters of that kickstarter deserve to lose their money. Poetic justice.

But.
Why Jim, why?

 

[Enygger_Tzu]

This same thing happened to me when I invested into a dinosaur coloring book that took forever to come out.

I have not been up to date with the story, did the book came out or at least the starter issued refunds or nah?

 

[Grinchy]

I have not been up to date with the story, did the book came out or at least the starter issued refunds or nah?

lol in all honesty, I'm not that that up to date either, but I know it did come out. So there's at least that.

 

[JimboJones]

Like we need another FMV or dating sim "game". Probably would have been awful even if it did come out.

 

[nkarafo]

I don't care about Zoe but Jim's part is disappointing.

 

[Redshirt]

We definitely don't need another FMV game.

But what we do need is a lot of outrage from dudes that didn't kickstart said FMV game. I got a fever, and the prescription is more cowbell!

 

[DeepEnigma]

I don't care about Zoe but Jim's part is disappointing.

That does not surprise me in the least about him.

 

[ipukespiders]

We definitely don't need another SJW game.

Agreed.

 

[michaelius]

We definitely don't need another FMV game.

Well that's a bit hypocritical.

If we are advocating freedom for developers this means freedom for all developers to make the games they want to make.

In fact the best way of providing diversity to gaming would be by making different products that serve different groups of customers - that way we can enjoy our DOA3 Extreme and they can enjoy their social justice FMVs and both groups can ignore products not addressed to them.

 

[Redshirt]

Agreed.

It's so weird to exist in a GAF where I am the social justice warrior. I used to be a moderate in an environment where moderate was a dirty word. Can't wait to see what I am the next time GAF molts!

 

[MC Safety]

Ignoring all the political bullcrap, the unfortunate truth seems to be that most crowdfunded projects are failures and/or disappointments.

It's tough to make a game with a fully funded budget. I don't know what type of game was promised here, but $85,000 is a pittance and won't get you far.

People have weird misconceptions about Kickstarter. Donating money is not the same as buying a game. Instead, you're funding development for a product that may never see release, or that might see release but in a dramatically altered form.

 

[Alexander DeLarge]

Ignoring all the political bullcrap, the unfortunate truth seems to be that most crowdfunded projects are failures and/or disappointments.

Even something like Bloodstained is a dud, really. The game just isn't that good. The vast majority of these projects don't turn out well.

Most of the best games in the last 5 years have been crowdfunded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_crowdfunding_projects

 

[ipukespiders]

It's so weird to exist in a GAF where I am the social justice warrior. I used to be a moderate in an environment where moderate was a dirty word. Can't wait to see what I am the next time GAF molts!

 

[The Scrivener]

This same thing happened to me when I invested into a dinosaur coloring book that took forever to come out.

65 million years?

 

[Redshirt]

Most of the best games in the last 5 years have been crowdfunded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_crowdfunding_projects

Right. Definitely. Projects like this are f'n annoying in how they give kickstarting a bad name, but kickstarting has been amazing for gaming.

 

[Denton]

We definitely don't need another FMV game.

But what we do need is a lot of outrage from dudes that didn't kickstart said FMV game. I got a fever, and the prescription is more cowbell!

I get the feeling that Dunki posting it is not about his outrage about the game, but more about the hypocrisy of gaming journalists, who descend like locusts at central european devs to create outrage over missing blacks and genderfluids and twitter jokes while ignoring what seems to be a pretty damn scammy way to (non)develop a game by their fellow social injustice moron.

 

[ipukespiders]

This same thing happened to me when I invested into a dinosaur coloring book that took forever to come out.

Mine came with a used pack of crayons and an angry note.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I get the feeling that Dunki posting it is not about his outrage about the game, but more about the hypocrisy of gaming journalists, who descend like locusts at central european devs to create outrage over missing blacks and genderfluids and twitter jokes while ignoring what seems to be a pretty damn scammy way to (non)develop a game by their fellow social injustice moron.

Maybe she should have her journalist buddies help promote it more.

Oh wait, that would shed light current situation of seemingly... Nothing.

 

[LegendOfKage]

It's tough to make a game with a fully funded budget. I don't know what type of game was promised here, but $85,000 is a pittance and won't get you far.

So what was the kickstarter goal, and did they reach it?

 

[Redshirt]

So what was the kickstarter goal, and did they reach it?

It was $85K, and they did reach it.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/703752115/kickstarted-in-the-butt-a-chuck-tingle-digital-adv

 

[LOLCats]

I remember watching some video about this.

Idk whatever chuck tingle is but seems like fan service for women and gay men?

Personally not surprised a drama queen flakey person is having a hard time putting a game together.

 

[ALIEN-gunner]

Chuck Tingle is an erotica writer. The kickstarter went $15,000 over it's goal. Looking over the page the game looks like a joke attempt just to sucker people out of their money. I guess it worked.

 

[Scopa]

Doesn’t she also have a personal Patreon or something? Where is this money going if not for making games?

 

[Cunth]

Doesn’t she also have a personal Patreon or something? Where is this money going if not for making games?

I just checked out her patreon. lol, scamming SJWs out of almost $2k a month. Not a bad result for her

 

[DeepEnigma]

I just checked out her patreon. lol, scamming SJWs out of almost $2k a month. Not a bad result for her

Goodness, lol.

 

[dirthead]

Most of the best games in the last 5 years have been crowdfunded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_crowdfunding_projects

If you remove the unreleased games, board games, and mediocre/bad games, there's almost nothing left on that list.

 

[woigemok]

Jim Sterling and Jason kotaku are the two biggest hypocrites in gaming journalism.

 

[PonyStation4]

I don't see the problem with this, kickstarter projects fail all the time. I have yet to see any donators talk about feeling cheated by her, it's their loss not yours...

 

[ILLtown]

It's tough to make a game with a fully funded budget. I don't know what type of game was promised here, but $85,000 is a pittance and won't get you far.

People have weird misconceptions about Kickstarter. Donating money is not the same as buying a game. Instead, you're funding development for a product that may never see release, or that might see release but in a dramatically altered form.

I agree with this, but why the lack of communication? Quinn is on Twitter every day, but she can't respond to backers who are tweeting at her? She can't provide an update on Kickstarter? The last update was on January 1st 2018.

I'd bet on her just pretending like this never happened and pocketing the cash. It's not like any game journos are gonna get on the case and start asking questions.

 

[Spukc]

 

[RokkanStoned]

I just checked out her patreon. lol, scamming SJWs out of almost $2k a month. Not a bad result for her

While this project is really scummy, how is getting $2000 a month from patreon scummy? Are you saying that she's not delivering the Patreon rewards or producing what she's intending to produce?

 

[Cunth]

While this project is really scummy, how is getting $2000 a month from patreon scummy? Are you saying that she's not delivering the Patreon rewards or producing what she's intending to produce?

I didn’t say scummy or any of the other things you said. I was implying that a bunch of white knights are being suckered out of money on a talentless person who they would never have given money to if she wasn’t one of the faces of progressive outrage

 

[Alexander DeLarge]

Well. Supporters of that kickstarter deserve to lose their money. Poetic justice.

But.
Why Jim, why?

If you remove the unreleased games, board games, and mediocre/bad games, there's almost nothing left on that list.

7 Days to Die
A Hat in Time
The Banner Saga
Broken Age
Chivalry Medieval Warfare
Contagion
Darkest Dungeon
Descent Underground
Divinity Original Sin
Divinity Original Sin 2
Divekick
Elite Dangerous
Factorio
The Flame in the Flood
FTL
Gods Will Be Watching
Ghost of a Tale
Grim Dawn
Guns of Icarus Online
Hard West
Kentucky Route Zero
Kingdom Come Deliverance
Leisure Suit Larry Remake
The Long Dark
Organ Trail
Pillars of Eternity
Pillars of Eternity 2
Read Only Memories
Rimworld
Risk of Rain
Satellite Reign
Shadowrun Returns
Shadowrun Hong Kong
Sheltered
Shovel Knight
Sir, You are Being Hunted
STASIS
Sunless Seas
Sunless Skies
Torment Tides of Numenera
Undertale
Wasteland 2
War for the Overlord
Xenonauts

Also you can attribute basically every VR game to release in the past five years because of the Oculus Rift.

 

[dirthead]

7 Days to Die
A Hat in Time
The Banner Saga
Broken Age
Chivalry Medieval Warfare
Contagion
Darkest Dungeon
Descent Underground
Divinity Original Sin
Divinity Original Sin 2
Divekick
Elite Dangerous
Factorio
The Flame in the Flood
FTL
Gods Will Be Watching
Ghost of a Tale
Grim Dawn
Guns of Icarus Online
Hard West
Kentucky Route Zero
Kingdom Come Deliverance
Leisure Suit Larry Remake
The Long Dark
Organ Trail
Pillars of Eternity
Pillars of Eternity 2
Read Only Memories
Rimworld
Risk of Rain
Satellite Reign
Shadowrun Returns
Shadowrun Hong Kong
Sheltered
Shovel Knight
Sir, You are Being Hunted
STASIS
Sunless Seas
Sunless Skies
Torment Tides of Numenera
Undertale
Wasteland 2
War for the Overlord
Xenonauts

Also you can attribute basically every VR game to release in the past five years because of the Oculus Rift.

I strongly dislike almost every game on that list, but that's just me. Something not on here that I did like and think turned out well was Overload, the new Descent game. It was notable to me, because I thought to myself, "Wow, a Kickstarter game that I actually like."

 

[Barakov]

Protip : Stop giving these people money to make games that will never exist.

 

[RokkanStoned]

I didn’t say scummy or any of the other things you said. I was implying that a bunch of white knights are being suckered out of money on a talentless person who they would never have given money to if she wasn’t one of the faces of progressive outrage

Mea culpa on misreading scammy and scummy, but you did say that she was scamming them (which in itself is scummy) and that implies she's defrauding them somehow, which further entails my point: how is she scamming them?

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

Zoe Quinn is and will always be a scam artist.

She's about as much a "video game developer" as I am an airplane pilot.

 

[MayauMiao]

Her CON site was a scam, its not surprising this one also failed. All she is good at is being mad at everything and taking advantage of the outrage mob.

 

[Cunth]

Mea culpa on misreading scammy and scummy, but you did say that she was scamming them and that implies she's defrauding them somehow, which further entails my point: how is she scamming them?

Have you seen the stuff that she has made? Such as this ‘tool’ for helping game developers: http://www.sortingh.at/
It’s a bunch of shit. Maybe ‘scam’ is not the correct word, but saying she needs $3000 a month to make this stuff is laughable

 

[-MD-]

Quinn could make a followup kickstarter tonight for the sequel to this unreleased "game" and the same suckers would fund it.

 

[wipeout364]

Just remember guys:

A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad.

• Source: Shigeru Miyamoto

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

Just remember guys:

A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad.

• Source: Shigeru Miyamoto

And when a "feminist" con artist takes the money and runs, never intending to make a game in the first place and you fall for it like a sucker well.... you might be a redneck!

 

[Soleil rouge]

I respect Zoe Quinn's hustle. She'll forever live off of pathetic virgins and soy boys without having to face any backlash for spending all their money on bullshit. She may be a hypocritical, borderline personality disorder-having con artist, but you gotta admire her finessing skills.

 

[RokkanStoned]

Have you seen the stuff that she has made? Such as this ‘tool’ for helping game developers: http://www.sortingh.at/
It’s a bunch of shit. Maybe ‘scam’ is not the correct word, but saying she needs $3000 a month to make this stuff is laughable

Wow, that is bad. That's a bad student project done in 5-10 minutes. How much money did she get to make it?
Anyways, making something bad isn't necessarily a scam, if what was promised was delivered. Furthermore her supporters are accepting that level of work if they're continuing donating to her, meaning either it's satisfactory or they're just donating for political reasons, which is also fair, though then it would be just better to be a reporter or blogger instead of doing shoddy work like that.