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[SlimySnake]

Fuck off.

Sorry I hurt your feelings. Didn't realize wife beater supporters were so fragile.

 

[AV]

I think the main argument back and forth here is because some posters are not willing to admit she was also wrong, and at least childish in her actions. (If what she did wasn't illegal, which I imagine it is).

Also, I might throw a box at your sorry ass if I'm pregnant and frustrated and you're playing games all day while I try to take care of 2 kids. I would be wrong for doing it, but I may feel justified regardless.

These two things together are why this thread is even still going. A handful of posters for whatever reason feel the need to have the "but whaddabout her?" argument, but for them, the buck stops there. The same posters that say "she clearly didn't help by continually bothering him" aren't also asking why she's having to bother him in the first place. Why she might have been pushed to breaking point by this continued behaviour of his - she even says in the video that she's sick of it. You're not sick of something in an isolated incident. I see people not necessarily defending his actions, but condemning hers without then exploring why she might have "started it all" in the first place. A lot of "she should just leave him alone" and not asking why she isn't.

Do we have extensive video footage to review? Not really, although there is the video of him calling his infant daughter a cunt and not give him fucking attitude because she interrupted his computer game. So we can't build the entire picture ourselves, for sure. I just think it's evident enough that this is not something that randomly started one evening because she was in a bad mood, and there are posters who are acting like they're simply "exploring both sides of the story" without really attempting to dissect it further than "she also did bad thing". I just think it's dishonest and at times completely disregards the fact that he may ultimately be responsible for breaking their family apart.

For clarity, there are also people on the other (my?) side of this that aren't helping the case. Derailing into a feminism discussion, throwing blanket insults. I'm not entirely innocent myself, and it's clearly a hot button topic (1k+ responses, Jesus). I just don't believe this is going to go anywhere than another ten pages of one side pointing out that her actions pale in comparison to his, and the other side pointing out that she still did take those actions. Hence I stopped even bothering. Most of the posts in the last few pages are the same things being regurgitated again and again by both sides, or devolving into semantic arguments about who said what in what post.

For me, the bottom line is this: no, she is not innocent in this. But in circumstances like this, her misgivings are so insignificant that it shouldn't even warrant mentioning.

 

[Papa]

Sorry I hurt your feelings. Didn't realize wife beater supporters were so fragile.

A Ree poster popping back in to sow discord after more than 12 months probably isn’t in a position to call anyone fragile.

 

[JORMBO]

For me, the bottom line is this: no, she is not innocent in this. But in circumstances like this, her misgivings are so insignificant that it shouldn't even warrant mentioning.

Thank you. That’s what most of us have been saying.

What is most jarring to me is someone can watch that whole video and their first and only arguement is that “she started it”, as the very first reply in this thread states.

Then we have people that spend pages acting like throwing a piece of cardboard is some great “act of violence” and completely ignore what led up to that point....a guy gaming 8 hours a day on top of a full time job ignoring his family to do so. And that this “act of violence” deserves some sort of physical retaliation against a pregnant wife.

 

[IncognitoPanda]

The thing is to separate what is a crime from everything else. Violence is not justified. Him not stepping up to the father role and her being childish/annoying is IRRELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION. She threw some stuff at him = crime. He hit her = crime.

The actual verdict requires a deeper investigation than the videos.

 

[JORMBO]

The thing is to separate what is a crime from everything else. Violence is not justified. Him not stepping up to the father role and her being childish/annoying is IRRELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION. She threw some stuff at him = crime. He hit her = crime.

The actual verdict requires a deeper investigation than the videos.

Law enforcement has already decided he has commited a crime and she hasn’t. I believe he is appearing before a judge sometime this week.

 

[Saruhashi]

The clips in the OP seem cut up to make things look worse for the guy, here's a longer version where it's shown what he had to put up with before:

That's pretty awful. Genuinely feel sorry for the kids in that situation. Feels like it probably hasn't been the first time either.

There's just no excuse for HIS behavior here. Even if he wants to be left alone or for her to go away then honestly the best thing for him to do is to just get up and leave the house. He can get a hotel room if needed. That would be my advice to anyone in that situation.

Resorting to violence is just not necessary and hitting a pregnant woman? Holy crap, that's disgraceful. Plus you might think "well it's just a slap" but honestly it looks like the dude could EASILY lose control here and a slap becomes a serious injury or worse. It happens.

I am inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. I am sure that it is highly frustrating to be in a relationship with someone who just wants to be left alone to play video games. Sounds like she really at first just wanted him to come and have dinner with them.

However, I don't know why she was throwing shit at him and I got the impression that this is like a somewhat frequent scenario in their house. Like they are probably fighting regularly.

So I can't say she is entirely blameless. Sorry. I can say his behavior is way way WAY more unacceptable than hers but anyone looking at this in it's entirety MUST be able to see an absolutely toxic relationship in progress.

Does anyone think this is the first time these 2 have had shouting matches like this in the past?
Anyone think this is the first time they've been throwing things at each other?
Anyone think this is the first time that he has hit her? Or that she has never hit him?

Obviously that would all be speculation but it doesn't feel like this is just a one time thing and it feel like these 2 have been going at each other like this for probably months or years.

Roaring and swearing at each other in front of the kids. FFS.
These people need to get away from each other and stay away from each other.
This is 2 people treating each other terribly and absolutely failing their kids.

We can definitely condemn him for what he did and he SHOULD be arrested and charged.
But what can you say beyond that? I think it's clear that they both contributed to an escalating situation.

Unless people genuinely believe that everything was all fine with these folks and the behaviors that we see in the video just came out of nowhere?

 

[RedVIper]

Law enforcement has already decided he has commited a crime and she hasn’t. I believe he is appearing before a judge sometime this week.

Kinda off topic but the law is pretty favorable to women across the board so that doesn't really contribute to the discussion.

 

[Saruhashi]

Sorry I hurt your feelings. Didn't realize wife beater supporters were so fragile.

"Wife Beater Supporters". FFS.

 

[LightofRohan]

This sums up the other place pretty well...

"
Fucking cardboard? People are defending him because the wife threw a piece of cardboard? My wife once straight-up punched me in the face and still that wouldn’t justify me hitting her. I have 80 pounds on her.

You just don’t hit women, it is that simple. To say nothing of the kids. Jesus christ… "

God. What a disaster place that is.

ALSO, speaking of unjustified bannings.

"I won't pile on with the judgment. Both of them need a time out and ton of counseling. He needs rehab. This is not how two adults engage with one another. Not okay at all. Terrible example for the child.

I've been there regarding these tense stalemates when what I'm working on needs just a matter of minutes, but my wife wants me to stop NOW. Oh there is sometimes shouting. These two, from the OP, are just on another level altogether. They should both be charged, but I'm sure it was an act of desperation on her part because he was not willing to listen. It was probably the nth time she'd asked him to stop that day, and it was always one more match I'm sure.

I hope they both get the help their family needs. It probably won't resolve well, but I can still hope it does. He needs serious rehab."
- Banned #1

"The complete video shows that he is being harassed as she throws stuff to him. She keeps pushing him and trying to force him to stop playing, and it seems she messes up with the hardware.

There is no excuse, no justification for domestic violence, no matter if is physical or emotional, no matter if you are a man or a woman. Violence only causes more violence, and it's not defensible in any way or form.

The worse is that kids are the most susceptible to replicate these behaviors in a subconscious manner. No matter how good or bad the parents are, kids look at them as an example and a role models to follow. Behaviors like this helps kids, who aren't 100% capable of rationalize about what is bad or good, to embrace such behaviors as the norm, and helps to create a culture of violence where men's feelings doesn't matter, or it's acceptable to hit women, in order to get what you want."
- Banned #2

And many more on that fucking site, what the fuck, how is it ok they create such an echo chamber? They are absolutely cowards, what is the point of a DISCUSSION FORUM if you are not allowed to discuss anything.

Honestly, everyone on there are cowards, if you need a mommy/daddy moderator team to protect you from opinions and you cannot handle having an actual discourse about anything if you don't have them taking your side, you are an absolute coward and a big part of what is wrong with a lot of society now. Talking and opinions are not something you should hide from, you embrace it and be an adult and listen to someone that is outside of your comfort zone you built up because you need to feel ok.

 

[TLZ]

Sorry I hurt your feelings. Didn't realize wife beater supporters were so fragile.

How about racism, smartass? No need to hide it.

 

[guggnichso]

Since that cuntwaffle @Zewp tried really hard to misrepresent my arguments and pretend that I was advocating for violence so that he could stroke his own virtuous ego, allow me to clarify.

My point is that there are different social expectations for men and women, often subconscious, due to our evolutionary history. Due to being the physically weaker sex, women receive more leeway in social interactions as they generally do not have to worry about the physical threats that men do. We have created complex systems of law and order to control and deter the natural physical impulses of men (and women, but men are quite obviously the more physical sex). However, because those animalistic base urges do still exist in the older parts of our brains, men often ignore (or forget) the law and resort to violence, especially when inebriated. This is supported by the correlation between low IQ and propensity for violent crime in men.

Pointing this out does not mean that I am advocating for it to be the status quo; rather, I am pointing to our evolutionary history as being a key part of why there are different social standards for men and women. In this context, I do not support so-called “equality”, because men and women are physically not the same, and the resulting inequality actually favours women in that it shields them from the threat of violence that is often present in male interactions. It is foolish to pretend that we can eliminate all violent tendencies from men as they have evolved over millions of years. The best we can do is control and deter them with law and order. Anyone familiar with my posting knows that I’m a fan of law and order as any reasonable person would be, but appealing to the authority of something without understanding the why of it makes you ideologically motivated.

Yeah, that’s a lot of stuff you said there. But let’s go back to the situation at hand. Do you think it was ok for that piece of shit lowlife fuckup to hit his pregnant wife? Yes or no?

 

[Papa]

Yeah, that’s a lot of stuff you said there. But let’s go back to the situation at hand. Do you think it was ok for that piece of shit lowlife fuckup to hit his pregnant wife? Yes or no?

Read my other posts in the thread or get lost with the condescension. The answer to your question, which I don’t believe to be a genuine one, is repeated several times.

 

[guggnichso]

Read my other posts in the thread or get lost with the condescension. The answer to your question, which I don’t believe to be a genuine one, is repeated several times.

It was a simple yes or no question. You CAN answer that. It’s quite easy.

 

[Papa]

It was a simple yes or no question. You CAN answer that. It’s quite easy.

Do you think I’m stupid enough to fall for a gotcha by you of all people? Ha, go read my other posts in the thread. My stance is stated quite explicitly.

 

[cryptoadam]

This sums up the other place pretty well...

"
Fucking cardboard? People are defending him because the wife threw a piece of cardboard? My wife once straight-up punched me in the face and still that wouldn’t justify me hitting her. I have 80 pounds on her.

You just don’t hit women, it is that simple. To say nothing of the kids. Jesus christ… "

God. What a disaster place that is.

ALSO, speaking of unjustified bannings.

"I won't pile on with the judgment. Both of them need a time out and ton of counseling. He needs rehab. This is not how two adults engage with one another. Not okay at all. Terrible example for the child.

I've been there regarding these tense stalemates when what I'm working on needs just a matter of minutes, but my wife wants me to stop NOW. Oh there is sometimes shouting. These two, from the OP, are just on another level altogether. They should both be charged, but I'm sure it was an act of desperation on her part because he was not willing to listen. It was probably the nth time she'd asked him to stop that day, and it was always one more match I'm sure.

I hope they both get the help their family needs. It probably won't resolve well, but I can still hope it does. He needs serious rehab."
- Banned #1

"The complete video shows that he is being harassed as she throws stuff to him. She keeps pushing him and trying to force him to stop playing, and it seems she messes up with the hardware.

There is no excuse, no justification for domestic violence, no matter if is physical or emotional, no matter if you are a man or a woman. Violence only causes more violence, and it's not defensible in any way or form.

The worse is that kids are the most susceptible to replicate these behaviors in a subconscious manner. No matter how good or bad the parents are, kids look at them as an example and a role models to follow. Behaviors like this helps kids, who aren't 100% capable of rationalize about what is bad or good, to embrace such behaviors as the norm, and helps to create a culture of violence where men's feelings doesn't matter, or it's acceptable to hit women, in order to get what you want."
- Banned #2

And many more on that fucking site, what the fuck, how is it ok they create such an echo chamber? They are absolutely cowards, what is the point of a DISCUSSION FORUM if you are not allowed to discuss anything.

Honestly, everyone on there are cowards, if you need a mommy/daddy moderator team to protect you from opinions and you cannot handle having an actual discourse about anything if you don't have them taking your side, you are an absolute coward and a big part of what is wrong with a lot of society now. Talking and opinions are not something you should hide from, you embrace it and be an adult and listen to someone that is outside of your comfort zone you built up because you need to feel ok.

are you serious? those posts got banned?

 

[guggnichso]

Do you think I’m stupid enough to fall for a gotcha by you of all people? Ha, go read my other posts in the thread. My stance is stated quite explicitly.

So you think asking you if it’s ok for a low life druggy asswipe to hit his pregnant wife is a „gotcha“ question? Really? You can‘t answer this with a simple yes or no? Seriously?

And why is it me „of all people“? I would LOVE to hear that explanation.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Reported for insults.

You're embarassing yourself with this kind of stupid shit.

 

[Kamina]

This sums up the other place pretty well...

"
Fucking cardboard? People are defending him because the wife threw a piece of cardboard? My wife once straight-up punched me in the face and still that wouldn’t justify me hitting her. I have 80 pounds on her.

You just don’t hit women, it is that simple. To say nothing of the kids. Jesus christ… "

God. What a disaster place that is.

ALSO, speaking of unjustified bannings.

"I won't pile on with the judgment. Both of them need a time out and ton of counseling. He needs rehab. This is not how two adults engage with one another. Not okay at all. Terrible example for the child.

I've been there regarding these tense stalemates when what I'm working on needs just a matter of minutes, but my wife wants me to stop NOW. Oh there is sometimes shouting. These two, from the OP, are just on another level altogether. They should both be charged, but I'm sure it was an act of desperation on her part because he was not willing to listen. It was probably the nth time she'd asked him to stop that day, and it was always one more match I'm sure.

I hope they both get the help their family needs. It probably won't resolve well, but I can still hope it does. He needs serious rehab."
- Banned #1

"The complete video shows that he is being harassed as she throws stuff to him. She keeps pushing him and trying to force him to stop playing, and it seems she messes up with the hardware.

There is no excuse, no justification for domestic violence, no matter if is physical or emotional, no matter if you are a man or a woman. Violence only causes more violence, and it's not defensible in any way or form.

The worse is that kids are the most susceptible to replicate these behaviors in a subconscious manner. No matter how good or bad the parents are, kids look at them as an example and a role models to follow. Behaviors like this helps kids, who aren't 100% capable of rationalize about what is bad or good, to embrace such behaviors as the norm, and helps to create a culture of violence where men's feelings doesn't matter, or it's acceptable to hit women, in order to get what you want."
- Banned #2

And many more on that fucking site, what the fuck, how is it ok they create such an echo chamber? They are absolutely cowards, what is the point of a DISCUSSION FORUM if you are not allowed to discuss anything.

Honestly, everyone on there are cowards, if you need a mommy/daddy moderator team to protect you from opinions and you cannot handle having an actual discourse about anything if you don't have them taking your side, you are an absolute coward and a big part of what is wrong with a lot of society now. Talking and opinions are not something you should hide from, you embrace it and be an adult and listen to someone that is outside of your comfort zone you built up because you need to feel ok.

What reason did they give for banning these?

 

[Scopa]

What reason did they give for banning these?

“Broken code. Recommend: deletion and format”

 

[kingbean]

I came away from this thread a day or so ago thinking both of them had problems and treat each other like shit.

Now this thread has turned into a weird reactionary debate on equality.

How?

He seemingly neglects his family.
She overreacted and threw something.
He doubled down and slapped his wife like a complete shitter.

Don't defend either of them. They played their parts.

Clearly she doesn't deserve to be hit for having tossed things at him, but he didnt need to have shit flung at him either.

 

[Alexios]

So you guys really think a video of a gamer's wife throwing cardboard towards him while he plays and the husband catching and throwing it back with nothing else going on in there would get any kind of views and people talking about what shit persons they are for doing that to each other and people talking about it like it's a crime, if a lesser crime, and toxic and abuse and oh the poor kids and whatever else? Wtf?

Clearly what she did is negligible in the face of total disrespect and neglect of a family with 2 small kids and expecting one more. Not to mention how he reacted. There's no both sides or anything here, sorry. Family is freaking important, you don't neglect your responsibilities and behave like a child and then wonder why the hell shit hit the fan and go all out in retaliation to that. It's just not what you do. Ever.

 

[LightofRohan]

What reason did they give for banning these?

User Banned (Duration Pending): Victim blaming (and) Rationalizing abusive behavior

 

[CrustyBritches]

You can tell who's married by the responses. Lol. In real life, your wife will get moody as fuck and lay it on you every now and then. This is actually the perfect moment to satiate her with attention and affection leading to make-up sex. You don't punch or hit your wife...ever. Worst case, run away and call the police, your pastor, a therapist...anything but violence. Even if you are both violent and refuse to press charges, they will take your kids away.

 

[kingbean]

So you guys really think a video of a gamer's wife throwing cardboard towards him while he plays and the husband catching and throwing it back with nothing else going on in there would get any kind of views and people talking about what shit persons they are for doing that to each other and people talking about it like it's a crime, if a lesser crime, and toxic and abuse and oh the poor kids and whatever else? Wtf?

I don't get the end of this sentence? Are you saying that both people in this abusive situation aren't being shit to each other? It doesn't matter if her reaction is in retaliation of his abuse, it's still her counter attack his neglect with abuse. Granted not in directly violent way. If that's how you feel then I would just have to disagree, because neither person in this very small clip into their lives is showing any sort of respectable behavior.

Clearly what she did is negligible in the face of total disrespect and neglect of a family with 2 small kids and expecting one more. Not to mention how he reacted. There's no both sides or anything here, sorry. Family is freaking important, you don't neglect your responsibilities and behave like a child and then wonder why the hell shit hit the fan and go all out in retaliation to that. It's just not what you do. Ever.

Violence is violence. If she had slung something heavier would it still be negligible? She certainly doesn't deserve to be "put in her place", but she's not completely innocent in this case of abuse.

 

[Ulysses 31]

So you guys really think a video of a gamer's wife throwing cardboard towards him while he plays and the husband catching and throwing it back with nothing else going on in there would get any kind of views and people talking about what shit persons they are for doing that to each other and people talking about it like it's a crime, if a lesser crime, and toxic and abuse and oh the poor kids and whatever else? Wtf?

Clearly what she did is negligible in the face of total disrespect and neglect of a family with 2 small kids and expecting one more. Not to mention how he reacted. There's no both sides or anything here, sorry. Family is freaking important, you don't neglect your responsibilities and behave like a child and then wonder why the hell shit hit the fan and go all out in retaliation to that. It's just not what you do. Ever.

We don't know if the cardboard was the only thing being thrown, she was also messing with the equipment to get a rise out of the guy.

Yes there are 2 sides, the guy being the worst(duh this needs to be pointed out for some folks here or you're a supporter of wife beating). For some reason people overlook that she clearly was making a bad situation worse. She got slapped, cried for a bit and went back to heckling the guy till he went after her again. She screams/cries for a bit and goes back to heckling the guy again till he goes after her a 3rd time. The guy also gave plenty of warnings and signs that she ignored.

She should've gone make preps to end the relationship after he hit her the 1st time but no she resumed acting in a way that got her hit in the first place. Obviously the guy also cares too much about gaming to be in a healthy relationship.

 

[kingbean]

You can tell who's married by the responses. Lol. In real life, your wife will get moody as fuck and lay it on you every now and then. This is actually the perfect moment to satiate her with attention and affection leading to make-up sex. You don't punch or hit your wife...ever. Worst case, run away and call the police, your pastor, a therapist...anything but violence. Even if you are both violent and refuse to press charges, they will take your kids away.

EDIT. I don't mean to be antagonizing if that's how it came off.

 

[LightofRohan]

You can tell who's married by the responses. Lol. In real life, your wife will get moody as fuck and lay it on you every now and then. This is actually the perfect moment to satiate her with attention and affection leading to make-up sex. You don't punch or hit your wife...ever. Worst case, run away and call the police, your pastor, a therapist...anything but violence. Even if you are both violent and refuse to press charges, they will take your kids away.

I'm married, if I was streaming/working my wife would never harass me on camera like that and be completely disrespectful. At most she would wait for me to be done and then talk to me, letting me know that she does not appreciate me missing dinners because of this streaming thing and if we could better communicate in the future when she needs attention or when I need to understand my time would be better placed somewhere else.

Nobody is saying she deserves to be hit, the most people are saying is they both clearly have problems and are highly immature to be having children. He does deserve to face consequences because he reacted way too aggressively, but acting as if this is an innocent woman being savagely beaten is disingenuous.

But more honestly, none of us are equipped to handle this type of sensitive issue and its good it went to court, hopefully those kids have a future that is much smoother.

 

[kingbean]

I'm not in this thread to argue or hurt anyone's feelings. I've spent untold hours in therapy for myself and for learning and I didn't want to act like a fucking know-it-all but the people that are handwaving the way the wife was acting is basically giving a co-abuser a free pass.

I'm sorry but that shouldn't be the case.

Again I'm not trying to be preachy or offensive, I just wish people would realize that this relationship was toxic for and by both parties at the time of this video clip.

 

[Alexios]

I don't get the end of this sentence?

Then don't reply and try to translate it. Also you didn't answer the first part you didn't say you couldn't understand.

Some of the signs of an abusive relationship include a partner who:

• Tells you that you can never do anything right
• Shows extreme jealousy of your friends and time spent away
• Keeps you or discourages you from seeing friends or family members
• Insults, demeans or shames you with put-downs
• Controls every penny spent in the household
• Takes your money or refuses to give you money for necessary expenses
• Looks at you or acts in ways that scare you
• Controls who you see, where you go, or what you do
• Prevents you from making your own decisions
• Tells you that you are a bad parent or threatens to harm or take away your children
• Prevents you from working or attending school
• Destroys your property or threatens to hurt or kill your pets
• Intimidates you with guns, knives or other weapons
• Pressures you to have sex when you don’t want to or do things sexually you’re not comfortable with
• Pressures you to use drugs or alcohol

I was in an abusive relationship were the girl was totally controlling. This idea that being abusive can be explained away as moody and laying it on is pretty offensive to people that have had to deal with being in a bad relationship.

Like you say, those are signs. Sorry you went through such shit, so have I. Guess what, that doesn't mean that's what happened in this case too. Or in the case of the guy you quoted. Why does everyone have to project his own experience as if that's what's going on every time a "sign" appears?

Co-abuser for throwing cardboard to a family neglecting piece of wife beating shit. Yes, every neglected family or abused woman or whatever else should have just woken the fuck up and went to divorce because people are robots and should act like lawyers in a court room at all times all lose all benefit of the doubt and because circumstances, society, lingering mental issues from said abuse, lack of support from people close to them, victim blaming by the people surrounding them and society at large and strangers on the internet, and so on and so forth and all kinds of other things aren't an excuse for anything so by being there as persons to enable such behaviour they're as much to blame. Or hey not as much because they didn't beat someone but, you know, enough to point it out. Shitty arguments everyone, thanks.

 

[kingbean]

Then don't reply and try to translate it. Also you didn't answer the first part you didn't say you couldn't understand.

I'm not sure why you're being so abrasive. I honestly thought the first part of the question was rhetorical.

I assume because you didn't answer my question still that means you've got some kinda problem with me. If that's the case I've failed to present myself properly and will remove myself from this conversation. I don't need to be given a hard time from people on the internet.

 

[CrustyBritches]

I was in an abusive relationship were the girl was totally controlling. This idea that being abusive can be explained away as moody and laying it on is pretty offensive to people that have had to deal with being in a bad relationship.

Our society has attacked positive masculinity to the point where men are thinking with the female brain, which leads to victim mentality and entitlement in men. Feeling entitled to different or special treatment based on the the perceived victimization that occurred to you.

I'm not here to tip-toe around what you find offensive, or treat you special because you dated a bitch. I'm here to say with all confidence that you are never, ever to hit your wife. Never be involved in domestic violence, especially in front of your children. I guarantee that no matter what your truth is, they will take your kids.

Run away and call the police, a pastor, or a therapist. Hell, even a lawyer. Do not ever hit your wife.

 

[kingbean]

Our society has attacked positive masculinity to the point where men are thinking with the female brain, which leads to victim mentality and entitlement in men. Feeling entitled to different or special treatment based on the the perceived victimization that occurred to you.

I'm not here to tip-toe around what you find offensive, or treat you special because you dated a bitch. I'm here to say with all confidence that you are never, ever to hit your wife. Never be involved in domestic violence, especially in front of your children. I guarantee that no matter what your truth is, they will take your kids.

Run away and call the police, a pastor, or a therapist. Hell, even a lawyer. Do not ever hit your wife.

Cool story, I was simply saying that handwaving abuse is bullshit.

 

[RedVIper]

Our society has attacked positive masculinity to the point where men are thinking with the female brain, which leads to victim mentality and entitlement in men. Feeling entitled to different or special treatment based on the the perceived victimization that occurred to you.

I'm not here to tip-toe around what you find offensive, or treat you special because you dated a bitch. I'm here to say with all confidence that you are never, ever to hit your wife. Never be involved in domestic violence, especially in front of your children. I guarantee that no matter what your truth is, they will take your kids.

Run away and call the police, a pastor, or a therapist. Hell, even a lawyer. Do not ever hit your wife.

So what you're saying is that the law is unfair?

 

[Vicetrailia]

Wow that video is ridiculous. Yes she was being annoying af, maybe slapped him on the shoulder, and threw cardboard, but none of that hurt him.

He was pissed that she was distracting him from being entertained (probably for hours on end) and hit her twice so she would go away. She started crying and screeching when he hit her.

That shit was pathetic, you don't hit your wife in that situation.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Cool story, I was simply saying that handwaving abuse is bullshit.

Welcome to manhood, where your wife being moody and telling you to get the fuck off Fortnite is actually justified. Because a real man knows better than to ignore his angry, pregnant wife. Knows better than to stress her out and hit her, which could cause a miscarriage and lead to the death of his child.

So what you're saying is that the law is unfair?

Hell yes. It's a proven fact and look up what your chances of getting custody are if you're a man. Especially one arrested for alleged domestic violence.

Once again, this is the female brain and thinking being put on men. Where dudes argue the gender equality means being able to hit your wife back if she smacks you. Man up and do what must be done to shield your kids. Divorce, whatever. Don't for a second believe there will be equal and fair treatment. The goal is to preserve your fatherhood, not stoop to your toxic partner's level.

 

[crobb991]

God this thread is toxic

My son was rushed to hospital with suspected pneumonia last night. I was in the middle of playing red dead. Did I punch my ex for taking away my game time. No I drove like a mad man to be with my boy.

This guy clearly didn't have his priorities right if a stupid game of fortnight is more important than helping with his kids...

Typical fucking gamer cunt

 

[kingbean]

Welcome to manhood, where your wife being moody and telling you to get the fuck off Fortnite is actually justified. Because a real man knows better than to ignore his angry, pregnant wife. Knows better than to stress her out and hit her, which could cause a miscarriage and lead to the death of his child.

I think we're misunderstanding one another.

She didn't deserve to be mistreated and in my posts about it I stated that this is his fault for creating an abusive relationship. I'm not in anyway saying he was right, please don't lump me in with she had it coming people.

Even if she hit him with a fucking baseball he shouldn't have gotten up and hit her.

 

[RedVIper]

Hell yes. It's a proven fact and look up what your chances of getting custody are if you're a man. Especially one arrested for alleged domestic violence.

Once again, this is the female brain and thinking being put on men. Where dudes argue the gender equality means being able to hit your wife back if she smacks you. Man up and do what must be done to shield your kids. Divorce, whatever. Don't for a second believe there will be equal and fair treatment. The goal is to preserve your fatherhood, not stoop to your toxic partner's level.

I agree with you, it's just that most people here dismissing her behavior are happy to advocate for equality when it suits them.

God this thread is toxic

My son was rushed to hospital with suspected pneumonia last night. I was in the middle of playing red dead. Did I punch my ex for taking away my game time. No I drove like a mad man to be with my boy.

This guy clearly didn't have his priorities right if a stupid game of fortnight is more important than helping with his kids...

Typical fucking gamer cunt

It's not "gaming time" as far as we know it's also a part time job. Should he have punched her? Obviously not.

But yeah fuck gamer cunts. What are you doing on a gaming forum anyway?

 

[kingwingin]

God this thread is toxic

My son was rushed to hospital with suspected pneumonia last night. I was in the middle of playing red dead. Did I punch my ex for taking away my game time. No I drove like a mad man to be with my boy.

This guy clearly didn't have his priorities right if a stupid game of fortnight is more important than helping with his kids...

Typical fucking gamer cunt

this is a completely different situation than what happened in the video, I don't see how you can compare the two

 

[llien]

Where dudes argue the gender equality means being able to hit your wife back if she smacks you.

Uh... duh.
Shouldn't equality instead mean that it's not OK to "smack" someone, anyone, even if that person happens to have a penis?
Just asking.

 

[crobb991]

But yeah fuck gamer cunts. What are you doing on a gaming forum anyway?[/QUOTE]

Maybe because gaming is my hobbu. But in recent years this hobby has become tarnished by people like this guy.

 

[ROMhack]

I hate the idea that this has anything to do with gaming. There's a large subset of dickheads who get angry doing stuff. If just so happens he was streaming at the time.

Edit: Fucking hell lads. You can't equate a physical attack and somebody throwing a piece of cardboard.

 

[CrustyBritches]

I think we're misunderstand one another.

She didn't deserve to be mistreated and in my posts about it I stated that this is his fault for creating an abusive relationship.

It's good for gamers to have this dialogue. I understand what you are saying, but I'm trying to tell you there is no fairness or equality when it comes to these things. From my experience, it's important to be a father first, then a husband. Even if you are being physical abused, lied about, and framed do not forget the end game is to keep your relationship with your children. Feel blessed if you didn't have kids with the woman who treated you like shit. You are free to make your own way now.

I agree with you, it's just that most people here dismissing her behavior are happy to advocate for equality when it suits them.

In the neo-fem modern world there is no equality, but this guy was a bitch.

Uh... duh.
Shouldn't equality instead mean that it's not OK to "smack" someone, anyone, even if that person happens to have a penis?
Just asking.

No. Traditionally pregnant women get a pass from physical retaliation from men, especially since they are carrying and the life of the child could be on the line.

Now if you are a transsexual woman then you are clear to hit your lesbian partner if she consents.

 

[RedVIper]

Uh... duh.
Shouldn't equality instead mean that it's not OK to "smack" someone, anyone, even if that person happens to have a penis?
Just asking.

I think the point that he's making his that you'll be punished a lot more than her for the same behavior, the law isn't equal,so if you want to keep your kids you play by unfair rules.

 

[llien]

No. Traditionally pregnant women get a pass from physical retaliation from men, especially since they are carrying and the life of the child could be on the line.

So, "hitting people is wrong, unless it's a pregnant woman hitting a man, in which case it isn't", got you.

Is it limited to specifically only pregnant women?

RedVIper
Yeah, but that's not the only think he meant.

 

[CrustyBritches]

So, "hitting people is wrong, unless it's a pregnant woman hitting a man, in which case it isn't", got you.

I never said, "hitting people is wrong", nice strawman.

I literally stated that it's normal for a pregnant wife to smack her husband for playing games instead of helping. Are you confused or stupid?

 

[llien]

@CrusttyBritches
Strawman? Yikes. Just misunderstanding.

So, it's not wrong to hit people, in particular when a pregnant wife smacks her husband. Got it.

That's an interesting approach, I just wanted to figure entire picture, like for whom else it is ok to smack whom else.

 

[CrustyBritches]

@CrusttyBritches
Strawman? Yikes. Just misunderstanding.

So, it's not wrong to hit people, in particular when a pregnant wife smacks her husband. Got it.

That's an interesting approach, I just wanted to figure entire picture, like for whom else it is ok to smack whom else.

-Grandmas smacking grandchildren
-Mothers smacking sons
-Siblings smacking each other
-Spouses smacking each other before or during sex
-Aunts smacking nephews
-Any women cooking smacking a man trying to steal a bite before dinner
-Woman smacking a man for inappropriate sexual advance
-Child smacking another child of the same sex for talking down about their family
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I answered your questions, now answer mine: When is it acceptable for a man to strike a woman he cares for? To endanger his own family by striking a woman he doesn't care for?

 

[LightofRohan]

But yeah fuck gamer cunts. What are you doing on a gaming forum anyway?

Maybe because gaming is my hobbu. But in recent years this hobby has become tarnished by people like this guy.

Well he might also like Movies, fuck movie watchers too!