SlimySnake
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Sorry I hurt your feelings. Didn't realize wife beater supporters were so fragile.Fuck off.
Sorry I hurt your feelings. Didn't realize wife beater supporters were so fragile.Fuck off.
I think the main argument back and forth here is because some posters are not willing to admit she was also wrong, and at least childish in her actions. (If what she did wasn't illegal, which I imagine it is).
Also, I might throw a box at your sorry ass if I'm pregnant and frustrated and you're playing games all day while I try to take care of 2 kids. I would be wrong for doing it, but I may feel justified regardless.
Sorry I hurt your feelings. Didn't realize wife beater supporters were so fragile.
For me, the bottom line is this: no, she is not innocent in this. But in circumstances like this, her misgivings are so insignificant that it shouldn't even warrant mentioning.
The thing is to separate what is a crime from everything else. Violence is not justified. Him not stepping up to the father role and her being childish/annoying is IRRELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION. She threw some stuff at him = crime. He hit her = crime.
The actual verdict requires a deeper investigation than the videos.
The clips in the OP seem cut up to make things look worse for the guy, here's a longer version where it's shown what he had to put up with before:
Law enforcement has already decided he has commited a crime and she hasn’t. I believe he is appearing before a judge sometime this week.
Sorry I hurt your feelings. Didn't realize wife beater supporters were so fragile.
How about racism, smartass? No need to hide it.Sorry I hurt your feelings. Didn't realize wife beater supporters were so fragile.
Since that cuntwaffle @Zewp tried really hard to misrepresent my arguments and pretend that I was advocating for violence so that he could stroke his own virtuous ego, allow me to clarify.
My point is that there are different social expectations for men and women, often subconscious, due to our evolutionary history. Due to being the physically weaker sex, women receive more leeway in social interactions as they generally do not have to worry about the physical threats that men do. We have created complex systems of law and order to control and deter the natural physical impulses of men (and women, but men are quite obviously the more physical sex). However, because those animalistic base urges do still exist in the older parts of our brains, men often ignore (or forget) the law and resort to violence, especially when inebriated. This is supported by the correlation between low IQ and propensity for violent crime in men.
Pointing this out does not mean that I am advocating for it to be the status quo; rather, I am pointing to our evolutionary history as being a key part of why there are different social standards for men and women. In this context, I do not support so-called “equality”, because men and women are physically not the same, and the resulting inequality actually favours women in that it shields them from the threat of violence that is often present in male interactions. It is foolish to pretend that we can eliminate all violent tendencies from men as they have evolved over millions of years. The best we can do is control and deter them with law and order. Anyone familiar with my posting knows that I’m a fan of law and order as any reasonable person would be, but appealing to the authority of something without understanding the why of it makes you ideologically motivated.
Yeah, that’s a lot of stuff you said there. But let’s go back to the situation at hand. Do you think it was ok for that piece of shit lowlife fuckup to hit his pregnant wife? Yes or no?
Read my other posts in the thread or get lost with the condescension. The answer to your question, which I don’t believe to be a genuine one, is repeated several times.
It was a simple yes or no question. You CAN answer that. It’s quite easy.
This sums up the other place pretty well...
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Fucking cardboard? People are defending him because the wife threw a piece of cardboard? My wife once straight-up punched me in the face and still that wouldn’t justify me hitting her. I have 80 pounds on her.
You just don’t hit women, it is that simple. To say nothing of the kids. Jesus christ… "
God. What a disaster place that is.
ALSO, speaking of unjustified bannings.
"I won't pile on with the judgment. Both of them need a time out and ton of counseling. He needs rehab. This is not how two adults engage with one another. Not okay at all. Terrible example for the child.
I've been there regarding these tense stalemates when what I'm working on needs just a matter of minutes, but my wife wants me to stop NOW. Oh there is sometimes shouting. These two, from the OP, are just on another level altogether. They should both be charged, but I'm sure it was an act of desperation on her part because he was not willing to listen. It was probably the nth time she'd asked him to stop that day, and it was always one more match I'm sure.
I hope they both get the help their family needs. It probably won't resolve well, but I can still hope it does. He needs serious rehab."
- Banned #1
"The complete video shows that he is being harassed as she throws stuff to him. She keeps pushing him and trying to force him to stop playing, and it seems she messes up with the hardware.
There is no excuse, no justification for domestic violence, no matter if is physical or emotional, no matter if you are a man or a woman. Violence only causes more violence, and it's not defensible in any way or form.
The worse is that kids are the most susceptible to replicate these behaviors in a subconscious manner. No matter how good or bad the parents are, kids look at them as an example and a role models to follow. Behaviors like this helps kids, who aren't 100% capable of rationalize about what is bad or good, to embrace such behaviors as the norm, and helps to create a culture of violence where men's feelings doesn't matter, or it's acceptable to hit women, in order to get what you want."
- Banned #2
And many more on that fucking site, what the fuck, how is it ok they create such an echo chamber? They are absolutely cowards, what is the point of a DISCUSSION FORUM if you are not allowed to discuss anything.
Honestly, everyone on there are cowards, if you need a mommy/daddy moderator team to protect you from opinions and you cannot handle having an actual discourse about anything if you don't have them taking your side, you are an absolute coward and a big part of what is wrong with a lot of society now. Talking and opinions are not something you should hide from, you embrace it and be an adult and listen to someone that is outside of your comfort zone you built up because you need to feel ok.
Do you think I’m stupid enough to fall for a gotcha by you of all people? Ha, go read my other posts in the thread. My stance is stated quite explicitly.
You're embarassing yourself with this kind of stupid shit.Reported for insults.
What reason did they give for banning these?This sums up the other place pretty well...
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Fucking cardboard? People are defending him because the wife threw a piece of cardboard? My wife once straight-up punched me in the face and still that wouldn’t justify me hitting her. I have 80 pounds on her.
You just don’t hit women, it is that simple. To say nothing of the kids. Jesus christ… "
God. What a disaster place that is.
ALSO, speaking of unjustified bannings.
"I won't pile on with the judgment. Both of them need a time out and ton of counseling. He needs rehab. This is not how two adults engage with one another. Not okay at all. Terrible example for the child.
I've been there regarding these tense stalemates when what I'm working on needs just a matter of minutes, but my wife wants me to stop NOW. Oh there is sometimes shouting. These two, from the OP, are just on another level altogether. They should both be charged, but I'm sure it was an act of desperation on her part because he was not willing to listen. It was probably the nth time she'd asked him to stop that day, and it was always one more match I'm sure.
I hope they both get the help their family needs. It probably won't resolve well, but I can still hope it does. He needs serious rehab."
- Banned #1
"The complete video shows that he is being harassed as she throws stuff to him. She keeps pushing him and trying to force him to stop playing, and it seems she messes up with the hardware.
There is no excuse, no justification for domestic violence, no matter if is physical or emotional, no matter if you are a man or a woman. Violence only causes more violence, and it's not defensible in any way or form.
The worse is that kids are the most susceptible to replicate these behaviors in a subconscious manner. No matter how good or bad the parents are, kids look at them as an example and a role models to follow. Behaviors like this helps kids, who aren't 100% capable of rationalize about what is bad or good, to embrace such behaviors as the norm, and helps to create a culture of violence where men's feelings doesn't matter, or it's acceptable to hit women, in order to get what you want."
- Banned #2
And many more on that fucking site, what the fuck, how is it ok they create such an echo chamber? They are absolutely cowards, what is the point of a DISCUSSION FORUM if you are not allowed to discuss anything.
Honestly, everyone on there are cowards, if you need a mommy/daddy moderator team to protect you from opinions and you cannot handle having an actual discourse about anything if you don't have them taking your side, you are an absolute coward and a big part of what is wrong with a lot of society now. Talking and opinions are not something you should hide from, you embrace it and be an adult and listen to someone that is outside of your comfort zone you built up because you need to feel ok.
“Broken code. Recommend: deletion and format”What reason did they give for banning these?
User Banned (Duration Pending): Victim blaming (and) Rationalizing abusive behaviorWhat reason did they give for banning these?
So you guys really think a video of a gamer's wife throwing cardboard towards him while he plays and the husband catching and throwing it back with nothing else going on in there would get any kind of views and people talking about what shit persons they are for doing that to each other and people talking about it like it's a crime, if a lesser crime, and toxic and abuse and oh the poor kids and whatever else? Wtf?
Clearly what she did is negligible in the face of total disrespect and neglect of a family with 2 small kids and expecting one more. Not to mention how he reacted. There's no both sides or anything here, sorry. Family is freaking important, you don't neglect your responsibilities and behave like a child and then wonder why the hell shit hit the fan and go all out in retaliation to that. It's just not what you do. Ever.
We don't know if the cardboard was the only thing being thrown, she was also messing with the equipment to get a rise out of the guy.So you guys really think a video of a gamer's wife throwing cardboard towards him while he plays and the husband catching and throwing it back with nothing else going on in there would get any kind of views and people talking about what shit persons they are for doing that to each other and people talking about it like it's a crime, if a lesser crime, and toxic and abuse and oh the poor kids and whatever else? Wtf?
Clearly what she did is negligible in the face of total disrespect and neglect of a family with 2 small kids and expecting one more. Not to mention how he reacted. There's no both sides or anything here, sorry. Family is freaking important, you don't neglect your responsibilities and behave like a child and then wonder why the hell shit hit the fan and go all out in retaliation to that. It's just not what you do. Ever.
You can tell who's married by the responses. Lol. In real life, your wife will get moody as fuck and lay it on you every now and then. This is actually the perfect moment to satiate her with attention and affection leading to make-up sex. You don't punch or hit your wife...ever. Worst case, run away and call the police, your pastor, a therapist...anything but violence. Even if you are both violent and refuse to press charges, they will take your kids away.
I'm married, if I was streaming/working my wife would never harass me on camera like that and be completely disrespectful. At most she would wait for me to be done and then talk to me, letting me know that she does not appreciate me missing dinners because of this streaming thing and if we could better communicate in the future when she needs attention or when I need to understand my time would be better placed somewhere else.You can tell who's married by the responses. Lol. In real life, your wife will get moody as fuck and lay it on you every now and then. This is actually the perfect moment to satiate her with attention and affection leading to make-up sex. You don't punch or hit your wife...ever. Worst case, run away and call the police, your pastor, a therapist...anything but violence. Even if you are both violent and refuse to press charges, they will take your kids away.
Then don't reply and try to translate it. Also you didn't answer the first part you didn't say you couldn't understand.I don't get the end of this sentence?
Like you say, those are signs. Sorry you went through such shit, so have I. Guess what, that doesn't mean that's what happened in this case too. Or in the case of the guy you quoted. Why does everyone have to project his own experience as if that's what's going on every time a "sign" appears?Some of the signs of an abusive relationship include a partner who:
I was in an abusive relationship were the girl was totally controlling. This idea that being abusive can be explained away as moody and laying it on is pretty offensive to people that have had to deal with being in a bad relationship.
- Tells you that you can never do anything right
- Shows extreme jealousy of your friends and time spent away
- Keeps you or discourages you from seeing friends or family members
- Insults, demeans or shames you with put-downs
- Controls every penny spent in the household
- Takes your money or refuses to give you money for necessary expenses
- Looks at you or acts in ways that scare you
- Controls who you see, where you go, or what you do
- Prevents you from making your own decisions
- Tells you that you are a bad parent or threatens to harm or take away your children
- Prevents you from working or attending school
- Destroys your property or threatens to hurt or kill your pets
- Intimidates you with guns, knives or other weapons
- Pressures you to have sex when you don’t want to or do things sexually you’re not comfortable with
- Pressures you to use drugs or alcohol
Then don't reply and try to translate it. Also you didn't answer the first part you didn't say you couldn't understand.
Our society has attacked positive masculinity to the point where men are thinking with the female brain, which leads to victim mentality and entitlement in men. Feeling entitled to different or special treatment based on the the perceived victimization that occurred to you.I was in an abusive relationship were the girl was totally controlling. This idea that being abusive can be explained away as moody and laying it on is pretty offensive to people that have had to deal with being in a bad relationship.
Our society has attacked positive masculinity to the point where men are thinking with the female brain, which leads to victim mentality and entitlement in men. Feeling entitled to different or special treatment based on the the perceived victimization that occurred to you.
I'm not here to tip-toe around what you find offensive, or treat you special because you dated a bitch. I'm here to say with all confidence that you are never, ever to hit your wife. Never be involved in domestic violence, especially in front of your children. I guarantee that no matter what your truth is, they will take your kids.
Run away and call the police, a pastor, or a therapist. Hell, even a lawyer. Do not ever hit your wife.
Our society has attacked positive masculinity to the point where men are thinking with the female brain, which leads to victim mentality and entitlement in men. Feeling entitled to different or special treatment based on the the perceived victimization that occurred to you.
I'm not here to tip-toe around what you find offensive, or treat you special because you dated a bitch. I'm here to say with all confidence that you are never, ever to hit your wife. Never be involved in domestic violence, especially in front of your children. I guarantee that no matter what your truth is, they will take your kids.
Run away and call the police, a pastor, or a therapist. Hell, even a lawyer. Do not ever hit your wife.
Welcome to manhood, where your wife being moody and telling you to get the fuck off Fortnite is actually justified. Because a real man knows better than to ignore his angry, pregnant wife. Knows better than to stress her out and hit her, which could cause a miscarriage and lead to the death of his child.Cool story, I was simply saying that handwaving abuse is bullshit.
Hell yes. It's a proven fact and look up what your chances of getting custody are if you're a man. Especially one arrested for alleged domestic violence.So what you're saying is that the law is unfair?
Welcome to manhood, where your wife being moody and telling you to get the fuck off Fortnite is actually justified. Because a real man knows better than to ignore his angry, pregnant wife. Knows better than to stress her out and hit her, which could cause a miscarriage and lead to the death of his child.
Hell yes. It's a proven fact and look up what your chances of getting custody are if you're a man. Especially one arrested for alleged domestic violence.
Once again, this is the female brain and thinking being put on men. Where dudes argue the gender equality means being able to hit your wife back if she smacks you. Man up and do what must be done to shield your kids. Divorce, whatever. Don't for a second believe there will be equal and fair treatment. The goal is to preserve your fatherhood, not stoop to your toxic partner's level.
God this thread is toxic
My son was rushed to hospital with suspected pneumonia last night. I was in the middle of playing red dead. Did I punch my ex for taking away my game time. No I drove like a mad man to be with my boy.
This guy clearly didn't have his priorities right if a stupid game of fortnight is more important than helping with his kids...
Typical fucking gamer cunt
God this thread is toxic
My son was rushed to hospital with suspected pneumonia last night. I was in the middle of playing red dead. Did I punch my ex for taking away my game time. No I drove like a mad man to be with my boy.
This guy clearly didn't have his priorities right if a stupid game of fortnight is more important than helping with his kids...
Typical fucking gamer cunt
Where dudes argue the gender equality means being able to hit your wife back if she smacks you.
It's good for gamers to have this dialogue. I understand what you are saying, but I'm trying to tell you there is no fairness or equality when it comes to these things. From my experience, it's important to be a father first, then a husband. Even if you are being physical abused, lied about, and framed do not forget the end game is to keep your relationship with your children. Feel blessed if you didn't have kids with the woman who treated you like shit. You are free to make your own way now.I think we're misunderstand one another.
She didn't deserve to be mistreated and in my posts about it I stated that this is his fault for creating an abusive relationship.
In the neo-fem modern world there is no equality, but this guy was a bitch.I agree with you, it's just that most people here dismissing her behavior are happy to advocate for equality when it suits them.
No. Traditionally pregnant women get a pass from physical retaliation from men, especially since they are carrying and the life of the child could be on the line.Uh... duh.
Shouldn't equality instead mean that it's not OK to "smack" someone, anyone, even if that person happens to have a penis?
Just asking.
Uh... duh.
Shouldn't equality instead mean that it's not OK to "smack" someone, anyone, even if that person happens to have a penis?
Just asking.
No. Traditionally pregnant women get a pass from physical retaliation from men, especially since they are carrying and the life of the child could be on the line.
I never said, "hitting people is wrong", nice strawman.So, "hitting people is wrong, unless it's a pregnant woman hitting a man, in which case it isn't", got you.
-Grandmas smacking grandchildren@CrusttyBritches
Strawman? Yikes. Just misunderstanding.
So, it's not wrong to hit people, in particular when a pregnant wife smacks her husband. Got it.
That's an interesting approach, I just wanted to figure entire picture, like for whom else it is ok to smack whom else.
But yeah fuck gamer cunts. What are you doing on a gaming forum anyway?
Well he might also like Movies, fuck movie watchers too!Maybe because gaming is my hobbu. But in recent years this hobby has become tarnished by people like this guy.