GnomeChimpsky
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I'm not up on the latest accusation. Is this through actual legal means?
I'm not up on the latest accusation. Is this through actual legal means?
Nope, you're not allowed!Does this mean I’m not allowed to enjoy playing Skyrim now? /s
Some guys at ERA suggested that they should sell all Elder Scrolls Skyrim copies that they own now.
I wonder … if the president of Sony gets accused of sexual harassment, does this mean they have to throw away their PlayStations?
Just read the whole thing. She doesn't.
She didn't even explain her rape accusation properly.
She worked in same company with Jeremy, she started to get close to Jeremy and treated him as her mentor and he helped her figure out stuff as new game dev, gave tips etc. Then they started dining out and Jeremy started to progress relationship. She literally explained that she feared that by refusing him she won't keep the job so she never said no.
And then she said "He raped me" without any explanation how where or anything.
Then like nothing happens she just proceed to explain how she get screwed by her employer multiple times.
To me it looks like standard hooker stuff. She latched on Jeremy, never said no when she clearly knew that Jeremy was interested in her and then acted shocked when Jeremy ignored her.
Typical case of woman who uses bed to progress her carrier.
Also according to her Skyrim music is based on her.
No, he is just that dumbI think this is the most stupid thing I've seen on this forum... You are trolling right?
Thirsty ass dudes (Beta cuck soyboys), lose their shit for any woman that gives them attention not having learned the lesson of "Don't stick your dick in crazy". That's why these women are available to them as regular dudes know to stay clear. These type women know they have a mark as well.Also why do all these women look the same? Short hair, glasses, piercings, claims of non-binary. Guys need to just stay the F away from anyone that fits that description. Just turn right around and run the other direction. It ain’t worth it. LOL
Beta cuck is actually a clothing line...Thirsty ass dudes (Beta cuck soyboys), lose their shit for any woman that gives them attention not having learned the lesson of "Don't stick your dick in crazy". That's why these women are available to them as regular dudes know to stay clear. These type women know they have a mark as well.
maybe that is what is happening and those poor excuses of "hupeople" say things like "I got raped" so they have at least an imaginary sex life that's worth talking about?These people do realize that after being raped they should go to the hospital. Rape kits exist for a reason, which is to preserve the evidence.
Sounds to me like they thought sleeping around would get them ahead in their profession and when it didn’t they regret it.
Also why do all these women look the same? Short hair, glasses, piercings, claims of non-binary. Guys need to just stay the F away from anyone that fits that description. Just turn right around and run the other direction. It ain’t worth it. LOL
I only have limited experience with people who have been victims of rape (Without wanting to go into too much detail, I know a rape victim very well and see that person regularly) and I had also limited dealings with the support group of that person, which is made up of people with similar experiences and two psychologists. The trouble and problems that they have to overcome and deal with are so basic, that shouting it out loud in public, and specifically on the internet, is the last of their intentions and worries. I had asked about this once (as tactful as I could) and was basically told that "this doesn't help repairing the damage that is done (which one person said, is basically irrepairable) and won't help avoid those things." In fact, there was a common underline of using the established institutions correctly. Many vicitms stay silent and don't go the necessary institutions (again, because they have more basic troubles to deal with). Circumventing them by shouting about it (without evidence) is seen fairly negatively by those people I have spoken to. But again, that's a limited sample size. Maybe the majority of real victims disagrees and approves of public lynchings like that. I don't, however.
So, most of them don't take any sides here (except for their own, maybe) because it's not where the battlefield is, as I understand it. And having seen how broken someone can be by being a victim of a crime like this is not only terrifying but one of the most heartbreaking things I have ever seen. I really do struggle putting it into words.
As for why people commit crimes like that, I don't know. I am not a psychologist, so I can only speculate. But I believe that rather than make everyone fear lynch mob "justice" and thus stifle any open discussions (remember, they will lynch you for even not using the correct pronouns), it is better to look at this from the long-term, IMHO: Usually some parameters in the upbringing of a perpetrator are off (maybe unstable family environment, maybe one of the parents did the same thing to the perpetrator, etc.). That's the real problem. And that's where discussion and solutions should focus on and that's what the people whom I have spoken to hinted at. Ask for the "why?" and try to fix that. But one common characteristic that I could observe was that they weren't really vengeful.
I am certainly not saying nor advocating that we should sweep the issue under the rug, far from it. What I would like to have is a reasonable environment to discuss this in, like a normal issue. You don't help anyone by entering the room screaming and pointing fingers. It is far more helpful to come in prepared, hear all the arguments, make your own arguments and try to come to a solution. And my personal belief is that this can be done within the systems that are already established.
Don't know if any of this makes sense or if this answers your question. Sorry if it doesn't.
This is some "for the greater good" ideological blindness, friend.I think it's good that reports like these are now flooding the public consciousness, and it's only happening because of social media, despite the fact that this also causes some pain. At the end of it we'll probably come out in a better place though.
This is some "for the greater good" ideological blindness, friend.
A mob is a mob.
This is a non-sequitur response. You said this conversation "is only happening because of social media", while handwaving that fact that this behavior "causes some pain".Talking about something doesn't make you responsible for the mob. The mob is responsible for the mob, not people who have been raped or assaulted.
This is a non-sequitur response. You said this conversation "is only happening because of social media", while handwaving that fact that this behavior "causes some pain".
Do you believe yelling "fire!" in a crowded room would also be the fault of the resulting mob, or is that on the person doing the yelling? This conversation is rather old and you're not the first to make excuses for mob action.
The mob is responsible for the mob
Talking about something doesn't make you responsible for the mob. The mob is responsible for the mob, not people who have been raped or assaulted.
The person is a part of the mob.
Checkmate, retarded response.
Stick to the topic, if you are capable. I am calling out your excuses for mob action. I disagree with your claim that mob action is good just because it might result in some people coming to some form of "justice". I disagree with your claim that flooding the airwaves with reports is good in spite of "some pain". This is the mob mentality I am talking about. We have laws for a reason, to avoid this kind of thinking.Try as you might, you're not going to succeed in pidgeonholing me into whatever view you find easier to argue against on such a complex issue. I'm not handwaving it, I'm in fact acknowledging it. Practically everything has both a positive and negative effect. Maybe we should stop doing scientific research because nuclear weapons are a thing? It's inevitable after all.
So you agree that the person who is calling it out is responsible in some part for (a) the claim to be truthful, in order that (b) any potential harm caused was justified by the attempt to protect others. If you don't have (a), then you don't get to hide behind the excuse of (b). If you are lying, then you are responsible. If some people get hurt when trying to flee, you are responsible as well but that tends to be outweighed by the common goodwill we give to people who want to protect others (Good Samaritan laws).The"fire" example is actually a great one. If there IS a fire in a theater yes, you should yell it out. Just like victims who have been raped. If there isn't, you shouldn't.
Fleeing so early? The conversation was just getting started. If you're incapable of keeping up, just say so.Anyway, this level of conversation is extremely uninteresting. Your choices are to either try to understand opposing views and find the most reasonable ways in which they can be interpreted, or you can have the conversation alone or in your echo chamber of choice. I'll leave that choice to you
Fleeing so early? The conversation was just getting started. If you're incapable of keeping up, just say so.
Naww, but you get a Praise the Sun for the aggressiveness. Let me know if it's not the emoji you wanted.
Oh I've interpreted your opposing view alright. I've interpreted that you're an idiot for continuing to support this idea that people should make rape accusations without proof.Anyway, this level of conversation is extremely uninteresting. Your choices are to either try to understand opposing views and find the most reasonable ways in which they can be interpreted, or you can have the conversation alone or in your echo chamber of choice. I'll leave that choice to you
I'm directly addressing your contributions and you're unable to back them up. If your aim is to engage with the "interesting contributions", you sure are working really hard to do the exact opposite.I'm incapable of keeping up.
We good now? Can I get back to talking with people who have more interesting contributions to make?
If you know full and well that your actions will start a mob then you are partially at fault for the damage that is done by the mob.Talking about something doesn't make you responsible for the mob. The mob is responsible for the mob, not people who have been raped or assaulted.
I'm directly addressing your contributions and you're unable to back them up. If your aim is to engage with the "interesting contributions", you sure are working really hard to do the exact opposite.
To the point: you already agree that the person who calls the mob to action is responsible. After all, you wouldn't justify the mob action as necessary and good if you didn't think the callout needed to be done.
The missing piece, however, is that you want to flee any responsibility when that mob action goes wrong. Thing is, mob action is always bound to go wrong, at one point or another. This is not a new conversation nor a new social issue.
When you have taken some time to read history, feel free to make some "interesting contributions" of your own. Until then, you're just another forum user with too much time and too little attention being paid. My sympathies.
The reason I didn't find your contribution interesting is not because you weren't addressing my points, but because you were doing it with such a sledgehammer approach that it just isn't interesting to talk about. It's too coarse to be interesting, since that level of coarseness has already been talked to death 1000 times and doesn't need to be repeated for the 1001st time. Yelling "fire" in a crowded room? Really? That's somehow a thing that hasn't been discussed a billion times? "This is some "for the greater good" ideological blindness, friend. A mob is a mob. " ? Is this something worth responding to in a serious way even?
Step up your game.
lol what?The reason I didn't find your contribution interesting is not because you weren't addressing my points, but because you were doing it with such a sledgehammer approach that it just isn't interesting to talk about. It's too coarse to be interesting, since that level of coarseness has already been talked to death 1000 times and doesn't need to be repeated for the 1001st time. Yelling "fire" in a crowded room? Really? That's somehow a thing that hasn't been discussed a billion times? "This is some "for the greater good" ideological blindness, friend. A mob is a mob. " ? Is this something worth responding to in a serious way even?
Step up your game.
You're an absolute moron.
Complex question fallacy in the form of an Appeal to Ridicule. You have a huge talent of unknowingly combining fallacies without much effort.The reason I didn't find your contribution interesting is not because you weren't addressing my points, but because you were doing it with such a sledgehammer approach that it just isn't interesting to talk about. It's too coarse-grained to be interesting, since that level of coarseness has already been talked to death 1000 times and doesn't need to be repeated for the 1001st time. Yelling "fire" in a crowded room? Really? That's somehow a thing that hasn't been discussed a billion times? "This is some "for the greater good" ideological blindness, friend. A mob is a mob. " ? Is this something worth responding to in a serious way even?
Step up your game.
Complex question fallacy in the form of an Appeal to Ridicule. You have a huge talent of unknowingly combining fallacies without much effort.
Then that would put you on philosophy -901 if we were to go by relativity.You get the "like" emoji.
Once you graduate from philosophy 101 to philosophy 201, you will be eligible for the "thoughtful" emoji. Keep up the great work!
Then that would put you on philosophy -901 if we were to go by relativity.
And this is the best comment in terms of derailment.I know you mean this as an insult, but this is one of the best compliments I've gotten in a while. You earned your heart emoji!
I believe he's made a statement about contacting his lawyer. Nothing since then.SooooOo...
Are there any new news on this? Seems like people quickly forgot about the rape allegations towards JS during the Alec suicide.
I wonder if he's taken legal action against the accuser
Try as you might, you're not going to succeed in pidgeonholing me into whatever view you find easier to argue against on such a complex issue.
Why is it that every single one of these "rape victims" always have a major case of ogre face. You would think rapists would go after the young and pretty not the ugly and haggard.
Also correct me if I am wrong did xer file a police report or is this yet again another trial by twitter?
This is such a dangerous and ignorant stance to have over how rape victims behave in crisis. You should study up on how both women and men stay with their abusers because they feel like they have no life outside of the relationship, or are afraid of their lives if they do go to the police.If you get raped by someone who pays you and you don't go to police because you like dollars then you are a hooker and rape didn't occur.
It does, and I don't think we are too far apart. I too have similar experiences and as you say, it is heartbreaking what it does to victims. I think where we disagree is about the already established systems being adequate. We've had a very long time to make progress on this through other means, and our progress leaves a lot to be desired. Even today some of the responses I see around these issues indicate that there is a significant misunderstanding of victims and the law's practical (not imagined) ability to help them. I linked an article earlier that talks about why it is that it's so difficult.
Why is it that every single one of these "rape victims" always have a major case of ogre face. You would think rapists would go after the young and pretty not the ugly and haggard.
Also correct me if I am wrong did xer file a police report or is this yet again another trial by twitter?