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The Outer Worlds will be enhanced for Xbox One X, not for PlayStation 4 Pro [UPDATE: False]
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When you buy a studio you have to respect all contracts, you can't broke those contracts.
AstroRhino
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MS = EGS
Last 4 years? You don't remember CoD on 360 having exclusive timed DLC? What about all GTA4 DLC exclusive for a year on 360? This isn't a "last 4 years" thing. It's just come back to bite them in the ass.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
didn’t Sony start it with making sure the Saturn didn’t get Tomb Raider 2?
No, first off that wasn't some timed exclusivity or paid exclusivety at all. It was a PS and PC game. So I'm not sure of its relevance here or even of the relevance of timed exclusivity deals in this thread in general.
Second, the Saturn version was cancelled because the saturn was projected to sell like crap and they considered it too much work to port it. Nothing to do with anything here.
Virex
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You're wasting your time replying to him. And your sanity
mcjmetroid
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and what of the Switch enhancements?
MS you bastards!
MS you bastards!
That's reaching. We're talking about timed exclusive dlc. Dlc didn't exist during that generation.... And no. It started with 360 and exclusive cod map packs before any other system/PC.
Wolfgang Jr
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I don't remember CoD on 360 having exclusive timed DLC. I would apologise but I'm not sorry in the slighest.
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DynamiteCop!
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This just in, Microsoft is actually going to have the Switch version unenhanced so it will be a lower resolution than originally coded.
01011001
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I doubt there's any sabotaging going on.
maybe they thought a Pro patch wasn't worth it?
you have to remember that actually using the PS4pro hardware in a meaningful way is not as easy as using the One X hardware in a meaningful way.
and this game doesn't quite seem like a AAA production, so the Budget is most likely very limited.
the Pro has about twice the GPU power of the base PS4, so you can maybe do 1440p at the same settings as base PS4, if you're low on budget and want to quickly put together a Pro update.
meanwhile the Xbox One X's massive GPU, CPU and very massive RAM boost over the base systems is easy to utilize.
the hardware is literally designed to run base Xbox One games up to 5x the resolution of the base system.
that, plus the CPU boost and massive RAM boost help make it possible to just use the raw power to your advantage.
on PS4pro meanwhile it is not as easy to, let's say, optimise for a 4k screen.
1440p doesn't look good on a 4k screen, and getting anything more substantial out if the hardware requires checkerboarding or other reconstruction trickery that not every developer is necessarily willing to put development time towards
maybe they thought a Pro patch wasn't worth it?
you have to remember that actually using the PS4pro hardware in a meaningful way is not as easy as using the One X hardware in a meaningful way.
and this game doesn't quite seem like a AAA production, so the Budget is most likely very limited.
the Pro has about twice the GPU power of the base PS4, so you can maybe do 1440p at the same settings as base PS4, if you're low on budget and want to quickly put together a Pro update.
meanwhile the Xbox One X's massive GPU, CPU and very massive RAM boost over the base systems is easy to utilize.
the hardware is literally designed to run base Xbox One games up to 5x the resolution of the base system.
that, plus the CPU boost and massive RAM boost help make it possible to just use the raw power to your advantage.
on PS4pro meanwhile it is not as easy to, let's say, optimise for a 4k screen.
1440p doesn't look good on a 4k screen, and getting anything more substantial out if the hardware requires checkerboarding or other reconstruction trickery that not every developer is necessarily willing to put development time towards
alabtrosMyster
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Many people could not care less about a rental service... If we did we would already have psnow or some other similar service.
Rolling_Start
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Sony paid to have Tomb Raider 2 not come to Saturn (console exclusive franchise for three years or something).
But Nintendo were engaged in shenanigans back in the 80's - blocking support for rival platforms if you wanted to publish on Nintendo, stuff like that.
One way or another, exclusivity of games you didn't create or publish has always been a factor in console gaming (and now on PC store fronts, too).
Edit: MS are under no obligation to pay for a Pro upgrade that wasn't already contracted for.
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Dr.Morris79
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Who gives a shit. The Xbox one X hardly got any of the updated Ps4 Pro patches for a lot of games.
nikolino840
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Could be arrive After like the patch on Battlefield 1..i have waited a lot for the x enhancement
2016 on pro
2018 on x
Circa..i can't find the exact date
2016 on pro
2018 on x
Circa..i can't find the exact date
phil_t98
#SonyToo
agree but as people are saying that Microsoft started it with the DLC and stuff on the 360 I had to point out it goes back further than that
cireza
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Well said ! Take this, Microsoft ! You can't hide anymore Phil !
Pretty much the entire history from Sony since their arrival on the video-game market is filled with shitty moves much worse than that.
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Heinrich
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what the actual fuck.. 22 likes... what the hell? that really shows how this place should be called "SonyGAF".
ethomaz
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They did respect the contract lol
That is the only reason the game is being released on PS4.
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
i heard about something fucking stupid like that yeah
like mortal kombat 11 is pretty shit on the X
yet_another_alt
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Maybe the base PS4 already runs it at 4k with max settings and 60 FPS so they don't need to enhance it for PRO.
ManaByte
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Must be that secret sauce stacked GPU.
01011001
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Yautja_Warrior
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Unfortunate but if the game is good, it will still be worth playing at 1080p, it's not like 1080p suddenly looks terrible or anything.
Also if the game has any performance issues, it might even run better on the Pro at 1080p with Boost Mode, compared to the X pushing 4k.
I'm sure Digital Foundry will show the results when the game is out.
Also if the game has any performance issues, it might even run better on the Pro at 1080p with Boost Mode, compared to the X pushing 4k.
I'm sure Digital Foundry will show the results when the game is out.
Virex
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You mean the Switch dehancements?
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Fbh
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FranXico
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With full games, it goes a long way back indeed, starting with Nintendo and SEGA.
With the advent of DLC, MS started making DLC exclusivity deals straight away. It's a natural consequence of competition.
It's just that a lot of people who now point fingers at Sony every chance they get are very silent whenever MS does it.
But in this particular instance, it is not even the case.
nikolino840
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What about "Blue reflection" 1080p on ps4 and on PC locked at 720p?
Phunkydiabetic
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Who not indeed
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Sony got Xboned.
Farawayfromhell
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Sony fans triggered. 
Humdinger
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Not surprised, since MS owns Obsidian. What would be the point of them allocating resources to improve the competitor's version of the game? Wouldn't make any sense. The only downside I can think of is that they're hurting the sequel's power to attract future fans to the Xbox platform, since lowered sales on a 2:1 install base means fewer people care when OW2 comes out; it's not the system seller (or GP seller, I guess) that it would be otherwise. But that's probably a minor consideration for MS.
1080p is okay for a game like this. It's a modest-budget, AA game whose strengths lie in the area of gameplay, not graphics. That has been clear from all the previews. This was never meant to be a graphical showcase.
And besides, constantly comparing your stuff to someone else's stuff is a guaranteed way to spoil your enjoyment of just about anything.
1080p is okay for a game like this. It's a modest-budget, AA game whose strengths lie in the area of gameplay, not graphics. That has been clear from all the previews. This was never meant to be a graphical showcase.
And besides, constantly comparing your stuff to someone else's stuff is a guaranteed way to spoil your enjoyment of just about anything.
HoldSteady
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I love the saltiness. I can almost taste the tears. Poor thing.
nikolino840
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*Microsoft go multiplats* yeah i see...make a console enhanced exclusive Is part of multiplatform strategy i suppose...
Gust being pretty incompetent on graphics. For example, the remastered Atelier series launched 1 year ago is 1080p/30fps even on PS4 pro, when the remastered PS3 release was 720p/60fps.
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Portugeezer
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Seems petty, if you're going to release a game at least put some effort into the ports. Pro should have some enhancements compared to base models, even if it's basic like some better AA or some shit (I don't have a pro).Seems the game has to be released for the platform due to pre-existing contracts which supersede the acquisition, but it doesn't seem like they're doing Sony any favors in the process.
The Outer Worlds only features '4K textures and resolution' on Xbox One X and PC (update)
It's almost here.www.windowscentral.com
demigod
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So a mode that only affected like 7% of the game for 1 year exclusive, xbox fans were outrage. But when something negative that affects the game 100% of the time probably the lifetime of the game to the competition, xbox fans are OK with it. The double standard is quite hilarious.
You can stop lying. Even PS4 owners did not like the exclusive.
Modern Warfare: Spec Ops mode exclusive to PlayStation for a year!!! (Survival Mode only)
As stated by @Sub_Level 'Its both. The co-op spec ops from MW2 and the survival spec ops from MW3. The co-op missions are on all platforms. The survival mode is PS4 exclusive for a year. '
Pallas
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So a mode that only affected like 7% of the game for 1 year exclusive, xbox fans were outrage. But when something negative that affects the game 100% of the time probably the lifetime of the game to the competition, xbox fans are OK with it. The double standard is quite hilarious.
You can stop lying. Even PS4 owners did not like the exclusive.
Modern Warfare: Spec Ops mode exclusive to PlayStation for a year!!! (Survival Mode only)
As stated by @Sub_Level 'Its both. The co-op spec ops from MW2 and the survival spec ops from MW3. The co-op missions are on all platforms. The survival mode is PS4 exclusive for a year. 'www.neogaf.com
Ok?? I already said I didn’t like that nor do I like that the Pro isn’t getting enhanced.
Not sure where the lie is with my quoted post.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
False equivalency. In the case of CoD the mode is already created and is just being held back for money-hat reasons. In this case, not only do we have no idea if Pro enhancements were ever planned, but it would be added work and expense to develop it now. It is possible, even likely, that MS just foooted the bill for this enhancement after the purchase of Obsidian.So a mode that only affected like 7% of the game for 1 year exclusive, xbox fans were outrage. But when something negative that affects the game 100% of the time probably the lifetime of the game to the competition, xbox fans are OK with it. The double standard is quite hilarious.
You can stop lying. Even PS4 owners did not like the exclusive.
Modern Warfare: Spec Ops mode exclusive to PlayStation for a year!!! (Survival Mode only)
As stated by @Sub_Level 'Its both. The co-op spec ops from MW2 and the survival spec ops from MW3. The co-op missions are on all platforms. The survival mode is PS4 exclusive for a year. '
Regardless, it's a 1st party studio now, so why would they go above and beyond for the competition?
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
But in this case Microsoft hasn’t done anything, game still getting released on PS4 so nothing can realy be said. It’s speculation that the game not getting PRO enhancements because of Microsoft not fact. As point in an earlier post digital foundry recently tested a game that was exactly the same on base PS4 and Pro but nobody said anything then
The Cockatrice
Member
Don't worry, the game's going to be buggy and a technical pos on all platforms. It's Obsidian after all.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
So a mode that only affected like 7% of the game for 1 year exclusive, xbox fans were outrage. But when something negative that affects the game 100% of the time probably the lifetime of the game to the competition, xbox fans are OK with it. The double standard is quite hilarious.
You can stop lying. Even PS4 owners did not like the exclusive.
Modern Warfare: Spec Ops mode exclusive to PlayStation for a year!!! (Survival Mode only)
As stated by @Sub_Level 'Its both. The co-op spec ops from MW2 and the survival spec ops from MW3. The co-op missions are on all platforms. The survival mode is PS4 exclusive for a year. '
It doesn’t effect 100% of the game, the game is still the same and still 100% playable where as the 7% of cod is unplayable for Xbox gamers. Two completely different arguments
nikolino840
Member
Yeah on 360 falloutNV have some extra bug
a serious problem with saves...was an hell playing the game but was also awsome!
demigod
Member
BS excuse. The game is releasing this month. Who's footing the bill for the PC resolution?
FranXico
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I know, like I said, it's not even the case here.
iconmaster
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Really?
I think you answered your own question. Why wouldn't they provide better support for the blockbuster console that's sold over 100 million?
demigod
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You can play the cod mode next year. Let me know when ps4 pro owners can play this game enhanced.
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