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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Well that one's up to SEGA as they own the IP. But I'd personally love it.

I know, but imo, Xbox's most interesting exclusives came from the OG Xbox era.

I still go back to games like Gun Valkyrie, Otogi, and Panzer Dragoon Orta today. But I'm not naive enough to think those styles of games would sell well to their modern audience...

I just want them to throw me a bone.
 

Jtibh

Banned
With those SSD's and Zen CPU's I wanna see dynamic, epic, future citycapes.

Think:

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I would pay 5grand for the new consoles if this is what we would get
 
I know, but imo, Xbox's most interesting exclusives came from the OG Xbox era.

I still go back to games like Gun Valkyrie, Otogi, and Panzer Dragoon Orta today. But I'm not naive enough to think those styles of games would sell well to their modern audience...

I just want them to throw me a bone.

Yeah, SEGA were on fire at that time. Crazy to think those would've been Dreamcast games had it stuck around, it's probably a big part of the reason a lot of people call the OG Xbox a Dreamcast 2. It pretty much was xD.

yes please. i want smaller but denser and more detailed worlds.

Hopefully with a lot more to do in those denser and more detailed worlds, too. Always get kinda miffed seeing cityscapes in games with tons of buildings and scenery but very little genuine interaction with them.

I know people are very split on the IP (and the latest game was, well, "interesting") but that's one thing I give the Shenmue series props for, particularly the first two games. Almost every building gives you some pretty decent amount of interaction with it, there's generally something you can do in all of them. Basically kinda translated the feeling of a fleshed out explorable town in older 2D JRPGs into a 3D space, but without the JRPG tropes and theatrics....

which makes the Shenmue series a lot less appealing to me tbh, but still I give it props for having that level of interactivity in bustling cityscapes
 
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Gamernyc78

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With those SSD's and Zen CPU's I wanna see dynamic, epic, future citycapes.

Think:

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Yeah bro I'm with you. I recently finished "Days Gone" and on top of the dynamic weather, good graphics, nice lighting it was so cool to see dynamic events happen like a horde attacking the bigger freaker zombies lol, I saw a bear kill two zombies by smashing them in the floor. People talk about AL not advancing but when I play Days Gone I see alot of advancements and npcs with minds of their own. I know what I'm saying is a little different from what your getting at but I agree more dynamic cities, backdrops, events, etc would be awesome.
 
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01011001

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With those SSD's and Zen CPU's I wanna see dynamic, epic, future citycapes.

Think:

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Edit, obligatory blade runner gif:

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my dream would be an open world game in a world like this

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super complex an detailed.
but this would not only have issues because of hardware limitations but also the manpower that would be needed to fully realise a world like this in high detail would be out of this world.
 

Jtibh

Banned
I know, but imo, Xbox's most interesting exclusives came from the OG Xbox era.

I still go back to games like Gun Valkyrie, Otogi, and Panzer Dragoon Orta today. But I'm not naive enough to think those styles of games would sell well to their modern audience...

I just want them to throw me a bone.
Original xbox was the best .
It was true next gen.
I still have mine.
Return to castle wolfenstein was a genrational leap from the ps2 version so was splinter cell 3.
Talk about double dipping on a bunch of games as i had ps2 and got an xbox in the final year of its life cycle.
 

Audiophile

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my dream would be an open world game in a world like this

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super complex an detailed.
but this would not only have issues because of hardware limitations but also the manpower that would be needed to fully realise a world like this in high detail would be out of this world.

Yeah, whenever I see futuristic or alternative cityscapes in art like this all I can think is I wanna play in that world.

With the way many tool sets are going I wouldn't be surprised if it's possible in AA+ games at least. Workflows are getting really good at using procedural generation to lay the foundation with artists then coming in to tweak. A lot of same or similar assets can be used but with a vast array of variables too.
 
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Original xbox was the best .
It was true next gen.
I still have mine.
Return to castle wolfenstein was a genrational leap from the ps2 version so was splinter cell 3.
Talk about double dipping on a bunch of games as i had ps2 and got an xbox in the final year of its life cycle.
Oh definitely, the OG Xbox version of Wolfenstein had an exclusive Co-Op mode, I wasn't a big fan of the PS2 until I discovered component cables. :D
 

LED Guy?

Banned
Talking about other so-called insiders like Klee. Going with one source and pretending it is the truth is stupid. But Schreier makes a distinction between what he hears or thinks and what he writes. You shouldn't confuse the two. He only writes it if he is confident in his sources. Look back at Kotaku articles about PS5 and you get a picture of what is actually known. The RTX 2080 statement came out of a podcast. And it was his opinion. And that's it.

Exact quotes:

"I am pretty sure, and don't hold me to this, you rumormongers everywhere out there, but I'm pretty sure that like the specs that these guys, the highest end, PS5, Anaconda are going for is more powerful than the graphics capabilities of the graphics cards like the RTX 2080, the stuff you can get on the market today. Cause I think they are trying to future proof."

It's just his opinion, he even explicitly states that you should not take it as a fact, yet here we are two months later and people are using a condensed version of his statement as "Schreier said both will beat RTX 2080". He did not.


Around 37 minutes in.
But why did he SAY it? It means he heard a lot from developers saying this to him, if it was his opinion, he wouldn’t even say it, you can’t deal with hardware and numbers as OPINIONS and continue to move on it and state it, and what makes it worse is that he’s a journalist so he wouldn’t risk it for that, and this perfectly lines up with the numbers that KLEEGAMEFAN has been talking about, he even said way back that both Sony and Microsoft are aiming to beat Stadia’s 10.7 TF number (no architectural conversions here) before XSX’s 12 TF reports and rumors started flying around, and after the 12 TF rumors about XSX came out, he said “I told y’all both Microsoft and Sony were aiming to beat Stadia”....so this says that both consoles are more powerful than RTX 2080 and are 12 TFs or around it, there’s no smoke without fire.

Xbox Series X’s 12 Navi TFs is more powerful than an RTX 2080 so I think he’s right when he said it, we will just have to wait and see if the PS5 is 12 TFs which I’m very sure it will be.
 
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Gamernyc78

Banned
I never seen any Xbox fans call Hellblade a walking simulator. HZD? Sure. Death Stranding... yup. HB? Never!

And Hell Blade 1 is the biggest offender, it's very restrictive and repetitive. Horizon Zero Dawn🤔 you lost me there (do thy really say tht about Horizon lol) it's one of the best open world games ever with tons of things to do.
 
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American company so I assume month day year so april 4th. MS always does pre E3 console reveal usually may so they must be feeling good about the x series specs if early April tech reveal.
No that is June 4th

btw that is not posted on their site . Where Did you get it from ?
 
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BGs

Industry Professional
Speculation hat on :

If we look at the new “feel the power of PlayStation” ad and we pause here :


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We notice 4 ps4 pro is on one rack and gets one wire and each of those wires lead behind a locked door .(ps5)

4 x ps4 pro(4 hearts under each PS4 pro)=16.8 gcn TF(16 heart in one stack which gives one wire)
16.8 gcn TF is almost 13 RDNA TF

🤔🤔😂

Blame the analysis on lack of information.

cc: BGs BGs your analysis on my extremely scientifical observations? 👀 :messenger_tears_of_joy:
Oh man... It's only a f*****g glorious ad of San Valentín's day. It's all. Is only a... Ok. Ok. I'm Ironman.

Time is moving very slowly, huh? :messenger_savoring:

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Andodalf

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People were saying it was on Xbox.com and pulled. Probably an early draft due to the placeholder legal text.




There’s really no way to prove that, and maybe no way to disprove that. It’s like the supposed ps5 symbol from yesterday. Probably fake but a bit tough to say definitely. I feel like 2/3s of this thread have become pointing out pretty clearly fake things and people speculating on things that don’t even deserve any speculation, like completely normal tweets.


Edit: upon looking a small way down his timeline, he has a post making fun of the very similar ps5 “leak”. This is almost certainly him or someone else trolling.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
I found all the posts where he talked about 13.8. he seems to be hinting that its the gcn number. looks like hes hinting at 11 tflops.
Quickly.

There is nothing more to add than what has been said by any developer who has commented. At the beginning of the year PS5 was still the one that offered the best performance. I don't know if that has changed with the new Devkits, I don't have access to that information at this time and personally I think that (theoretically) I won't have physical access until early summer, for my part. And I don't like to talk about what I haven't personally experienced. I can say that he says "X" and he says "Y", but since the opinion is so different I prefer not to internalize this information.

If you want I invent data, or if you want I tell you a number ... 13.8 (and I start the speculative machinery). But I don't think it's right.

Now what will not let you sleep will be to think if I have given you a false number ... or maybe not (just kidding).

Do you understand where I want to go? (I don't know if this expression is used in English).

Now I really have to go, until next time.
I answer later about all this.
As it seems that every time I speak the bread goes up, I need to say this because otherwise they will cut my balls. We will clarify my old comment on "13.8" for those who need clarification.

If I knew that number could be defining the power of PS5 I would not have said it publicly.

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By the way, does anyone know what is the equivalence in RDNA of a useful effective power of 13.8 Tf GCN? 11.1 say someone? Sure? Or 11.5? (it's only a question)

(Please, that my "13.8" not become news)

I leave it in Spanish in Spoiler in case any translation is inaccurate.

Como parece que cada vez que hablo sube el pan, necesito decir esto porque sino me van a cortar las cojones. Vamos a aclarar mi antiguo comentario sobre los "13.8" para quién necesite aclaración.

Si supiera que ese número pudiese ser definitorio de la potencia de PS5 no lo habría dicho públicamente.

Por cierto, ¿alguien sabe cual es la equivalencia en RDNA de una potencia efectiva útil de 13.8 Tf GCN?

(Por favor, que mis "13.8" no se conviertan en noticia)
Really that 1.25 is not very accurate. Maybe better ~1.2x :messenger_grinning_sweat:
Microsoft Windows Calculator say that's correct :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
So, this guy is looking for news, and just happened to drop lucky on the site right at the right moment, and spot this...?

I’m calling fake. It’s just too easy to do, that’s a picture I could make in minutes given their past media.

They will likely be saving their images in layers, and as such sure there would be basic text as a placeholder at the bottom, but this suggests that they saved the image to a jpeg and uploaded.... for... what reason? To do what, exactly? This sort of testing is done offline, you don’t do it on a public server.

BS. Clear as day, IMO. The plural “series” slogan is used to make people talk. They would more than likely just have “Xbox” on an image like this anyway.

Edit: I also had a quick look at the history of the site on snapshot form, and the site has been updated twice today (1:31am and 5:29am), which is quite common for multiple daily updates it looks like. But both times, this wasn’t added at all.

Why do people do this shit? 🤣
 
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