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[Unknown Soldier]

My favorite game of the generation and one of the best games I've played ever. For free, if you're too stupid to not play this then I cannot pity you because stupidity of that magnitude is to be reviled, not pitied.

 

[Danjin44]

My favorite game of the generation and one of the best games I've played ever. For free, if you're too stupid to not play this then I cannot pity you because stupidity of that magnitude is to be reviled, not pitied.

It also my favourite game of this generation but lets not call people "stupid" for not playing this game, it makes people not want to play the game.

 

[M1chl]

Wow, this game is really fucking good! Thanks mr Mista for stream, which hyped me up and I played it for 8 hours straight. Mind you my nerves are still recovering from brutal surgery and this is my longest session in year. Need to get some sleep. Play this game people!

 

[KiNeMz]

Okay that's sucks to hear and shit like that is super annoying. It's not a matter of git gud it's a matter of making the game difficult by making it tedious. I don't like tedious.

I like to explore a lot and I play recklessly, don't care if I die because I save all the time. I have WAY less than zero interest in replaying an hours worth of game I already played.

This game is all about the story, the game play may not be so engaging and interesting but it does some very interetsing things in how itbegins merging the dfference game play types. Whats truly unique about this game is how it messes with you typical view and undertanding of what video games are. It does some cool 4th wall kinda shit and some mind blowing events happen that had me thinking for months after it. I truly think its something that has to be experienced. But they may not intrigue your interest if you just want to have fun and enjoy killing shit.

 

[InertKiwi]

I really need to play this again. I haven't played it since it came out and I beat it with the true ending. I'm happy I ordered the physical OST and Possessed by a Disease is still my favorite!

 

[RiccochetJ]

Absolutely amazing game. You can tell in certain spots that it was made on a restricted budget, but it overcame those with fantastic combat, memorable story, and an amazing soundtrack.

 

[Danjin44]

Absolutely amazing game. You can tell in certain spots that it was made on a restricted budget, but it overcame those with fantastic combat, memorable story, and an amazing soundtrack.

SE doesn't give Yoko Taro same type of budget as Nomura or Tabata but Taro still manages to make amazing and unique games even with those limitations. This is why I don't care about high tech graphics or how much budget the game has, at end of the day it all depends on designers behind the game.

 

[SLB1904]

So, no love on PC Gamepass?

We trash. Font want to dpend 12 quid and then show up on gp pc. I will wait a little longer

 

[nowhat]

Man, all this talk makes me want to replay Automata all over again. I adore that game so much!!

Yeah, me too, but I got the game on disc (because of the T-shirt - which, unfortunately, tore itself up pretty quickly, the Emil print was way too thick for the fabric used) and borrowed it to a friend later on - he's such a filthy hippie that I'd have to disinfect the disc and case under regular circumstances, not to mention now, so I won't try to get it back any time soon.

Looked at PSN and if the game+DLC edition would have been like 20€ I would have bought it again. Alas, it's 40€ - perhaps I'll just listen to the soundtrack.

 

[Danjin44]

Yeah, me too, but I got the game on disc (because of the T-shirt - which, unfortunately, tore itself up pretty quickly, the Emil print was way too thick for the fabric used) and borrowed it to a friend later on - he's such a filthy hippie that I'd have to disinfect the disc and case under regular circumstances, not to mention now, so I won't try to get it back any time soon.

Looked at PSN and if the game+DLC edition would have been like 20€ I would have bought it again. Alas, it's 40€ - perhaps I'll just listen to the soundtrack.

 

[replicant-]

Another game got devalued. It's not my cup of tea, but someone might want to play this:
Link

Opening up a game to a wider audience isn’t devaluing it.

Games weren’t devalued in previous generations when players rented them from places such as Blockbuster.

My car isn’t devalued because I own it, yet others lease it

What a ridiculous attitude to hold.

 

[M1chl]

Opening up a game to a wider audience isn’t devaluing it.

Games weren’t devalued in previous generations when players rented them from places such as Blockbuster.

My car isn’t devalued because I own it, yet others lease it

What a ridiculous attitude to hold.

IT'S A JOKE. People like to call GamePass service as something which devaluate games, which is complete bullshit obviously.

 

[replicant-]

The joke is a bit flat.

 

[M1chl]

The joke is a bit flat.

Well fanboys are also pretty flat with their trolling, so you cannot get really creative.

 

[Mithos]

Quoting myself from this thread -> https://www.neogaf.com/threads/glory-to-mankind-nier-automata-turns-two-years-old-today.1473368/

I have never really liked games that play like Devil May Cry, Castlevania (3D), Rygar (3D), I've always called them "combo button mashers".

When I first saw this game, I was interested up until I saw the gameplay, it was fast paced "combo button mashing" (IMO) and lost interest.
However wherever I went (online) I kept hearing/seeing people saying how it was an awesome game, this continued for a long time, until one day an online store had the game on heavy discount, I decided to "well I'll try it out".

It was one of the better things I've done. Now truthfully... I'm not very good on these type of games "combo button mashers" so I had to play on the easiest setting on many parts, and normal on the rest to even get by. But by god this game is one of the first games in a very VERY long time where I did NOT skip/fast forward through any story elements or cut-scenes. The story being told is really really THAT good, and I didn't want to miss anything said.

Absolutely one of the best games I've played/owned on PS4.

Edit:
I'm even thinking of buying the game again -> Nier: Automata Game of the Yorha Edition

Now, I've not yet picked up the "Game of the Yorha Edition", but I still track it on the different onlinestores I use, just in case a great price arrives.

 

[Clear]

Opening up a game to a wider audience isn’t devaluing it.

It does devalue it because its just turns it into "product" to feed a service. Its commodification.

The game has already shipped 4.5m uniits across 3 platforms, it doesn't need a wider audience ffs.

 

[M1chl]

It does devalue it because its just turns it into "product" to feed a service. Its commodification.

The game has already shipped 4.5m uniits across 3 platforms, it doesn't need a wider audience ffs.

In that case, if game is already turned into profit, why not post it on GamePass, so you hype people for potential new game? I hyped me definitely and I would not buy it otherwise.

 

[its_Ditz]

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[Clear]

In that case, if game is already turned into profit, why not post it on GamePass, so you hype people for potential new game? I hyped me definitely and I would not buy it otherwise.

I'm not a believer that giving people access to everything is a good thing for them or the business. A degree of scarcity is important in giving experiences value.

People get jaded and complacent when served a unending smorgasbord of stuff. Although they are watching/playing more titles, their enjoyment and appreciation of the stuff tends to be superficial and short-lived.

Another problem is that when stuff is "just there" there's very little incentive to persevere past any initial hurdles or hiccups, because there's always going to be something more instantly gratifying and there are always the same number of hours in the day.

In my view, long term noone is going to gain from what amounts to facilitating gluttony.

 

[M1chl]

I'm not a believer that giving people access to everything is a good thing for them or the business. A degree of scarcity is important in giving experiences value.

People get jaded and complacent when served a unending smorgasbord of stuff. Although they are watching/playing more titles, their enjoyment and appreciation of the stuff tends to be superficial and short-lived.

Another problem is that when stuff is "just there" there's very little incentive to persevere past any initial hurdles or hiccups, because there's always going to be something more instantly gratifying and there are always the same number of hours in the day.

In my view, long term noone is going to gain from what amounts to facilitating gluttony.

I guess I understand you, to an extent, but I don't have any other feeling if I downloaded from GP and when I pay for that. I have enough resources to buy any game, without thinking about it, so it makes zero difference. GP is great because of curated list of games and it basically shove those games down my throat. From xbox dash, to notification on my phone and it's just easy to click on download. I try a lot of games which I would not even look at those game's review. I don't like all of them, but I find a lot of good games, which would be otherwise out of my radar. Case in point, this game and Kona, from recent memory. I buy both of them. For me it's service for dicovery. I planning on buying Ace Combat 7, which I chec....Czeched on GP also. For discovery GP is amazing.

 

[cireza]

Nier Automata is a poor fit for Gamepass. It is a game that requires investment, and taking your time to really immerse yourself in the world. What I am seeing on another forum I follow is that people who are trying the game with Gamepass are playing it a bit fast, and focusing on every negative aspect they find, as if they needed to find a good reason to stop playing and try the next Gamepass game.

If people are happy with Gamepass, then good for them. I am a person who plays one game at a time, and believe that the time NOT spent playing is just as important as the time spent playing for games like Nier Automata. People have so many games available to them, they don't even give the game a chance. Had they bought it 50$, it would probably be different.

Just as when people started discovered emulation, so many games where available at once, and the slightest problem, bug or thing they did not like, they would simply give up and move on to another game.

I hope it will still help Nier a bit, but I don't think it is the right way to sell such games.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Nier Automata is a poor fit for Gamepass. It is a game that requires investment, and taking your time to really immerse yourself in the world. What I am seeing on another forum I follow is that people who are trying the game with Gamepass are playing it a bit fast, and focusing on every negative aspect they find, as if they needed to find a good reason to stop playing and try the next Gamepass game.

If people are happy with Gamepass, then good for them. I am a person who plays one game at a time, and believe that the time NOT spent playing is just as important as the time spent playing for games like Nier Automata. People have so many games available to them, they don't even give the game a chance. Had they bought it 50$, it would probably be different.

Just as when people started discovered emulation, so many games where available at once, and the slightest problem, bug or thing they did not like, they would simply give and move on to another game.

I hope it will still help Nier a bit, but I don't think it is the right way to sell such games.

I bought it and still didn't like it. Blaming GP for people not liking the game seems a little weak.

 

[cireza]

I bought it and still didn't like it. Blaming GP for people not liking the game seems a little weak.

Great answer, I felt like it was necessary.

 

[Mista]

Wow, this game is really fucking good! Thanks mr Mista for stream, which hyped me up and I played it for 8 hours straight. Mind you my nerves are still recovering from brutal surgery and this is my longest session in year. Need to get some sleep. Play this game people!

Most welcome. Thanks for sticking around the stream and making it fun for me

 

[M1chl]

Most welcome. Thanks for sticking around the stream and making it fun for me

Well no problem, thanks for streaming : ) At this point you are my favorite streamer : D

 

[BlueAlpaca]

I bought this game a few weeks ago but still haven't gotten around to playing it, reading about having to play multiple times to get the 'true/good' ending and no save point for the first hour is just...

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

I bought this game a few weeks ago but still haven't gotten around to playing it, reading about having to play multiple times to get the 'true/good' ending and no save point for the first hour is just...

To be fair, the only place you're likely to die in the first hour is right at the end. Which probably makes it worse, now that I think about it. That's where I died. I was seething.

 

[M1chl]

I bought this game a few weeks ago but still haven't gotten around to playing it, reading about having to play multiple times to get the 'true/good' ending and no save point for the first hour is just...

You can play it on easy with automode, it's fine. There is not cheevos tied to the difficulty, if you care about that and it's breeze. You can bump difficulty at any time : )

 

[GHG]

I bought it and still didn't like it. Blaming GP for people not liking the game seems a little weak.

Of course not everyone is going to like it but the reality is that most games emphasise a strong opening 2 hours and then drop off as they know that that's what a lot of reviewers base their reviews on (a lot of reviewers don't actually finish the games they "review") and players will give impressions to others after that period of time.

That's not to say the start of this game is weak by any means, but it's definitely not it's strong point. When you have that combined with the attitude that games are "disposable" and a hundred other games at peoples fingertips you end up with a bunch of people who don't give the game a chance to get going. For example dying during the intro in this game and then having to start over will be enough for many people with these attitudes to dismiss the game, uninstall it and move on

I'd be very interested to see metrics for how this game did on GamePass (average hours played, achievements etc) at some point in the future but I doubt we'd ever get that information.

 

[Nester99]

You have to beat the game 3 times to actually beat it once !

 

[Mista]

Well no problem, thanks for streaming : ) At this point you are my favorite streamer : D

Oh this is too much for me. Thank you my bratr

 

[Hardvlade]

NieR: Automata was my first Yoko Taro game, had no idea what to expect. At first I got frustrated since I couldn’t save early and died near the end of the long intro. However, I kept pushing through.

At first I thought I’d had to replay the game from the beginning every time I wanted to see a different ending, but that didn’t turn out to be the case.

The true ending to NieR: Automata was one of the best endings I’ve ever seen in a while and I will never forget that experience. However, the way it’s designed it something that won’t have the same impact if you watch it on YouTube compared to going through it.

I honestly can’t wait for NieR: Replicant. I’ll be there day one.

 

[M1chl]

Oh this is too much for me. Thank you my bratr

Sadly, I cannot write this in arabic, so sorry about that. For me it's just some fancy caligraphic shapes which I don't think I can point out each chracter. You must be genius to know what does it say and on the top of that, know normal alphabet. Well I already accepted, that I am mentally less fortunate : D

 

[Hardvlade]

I almost forgot to mention, NieR: Automata's soundtrack is god tier. The Ending E song is also one of my favorite songs out there and if you do go through Ending E.

MAKE SURE YOU'RE ONLINE

 

[nemiroff]

I'm not a believer that giving people access to everything is a good thing for them or the business. A degree of scarcity is important in giving experiences value.

People get jaded and complacent when served a unending smorgasbord of stuff. Although they are watching/playing more titles, their enjoyment and appreciation of the stuff tends to be superficial and short-lived.

Another problem is that when stuff is "just there" there's very little incentive to persevere past any initial hurdles or hiccups, because there's always going to be something more instantly gratifying and there are always the same number of hours in the day.

In my view, long term noone is going to gain from what amounts to facilitating gluttony.

So,

I paid quite a bit of my own money for Nier Automata, but I very much disliked the experience.
I played Ori WotW (not exactly a game without challenges..) for free via GP, and it's now one of my favorite games of all times.

This is just a random example from my own experience. So obviously I can't fully agree with your notion. I can't see much negative about GP and "free games", I think it's a great service for most people.

 

[Mista]

Sadly, I cannot write this in arabic, so sorry about that. For me it's just some fancy caligraphic shapes which I don't think I can point out each chracter. You must be genius to know what does it say and on the top of that, know normal alphabet. Well I already accepted, that I am mentally less fortunate : D

Its the hardest language in the world for a reason ;p

 

[M1chl]

Its the hardest language in the world for a reason ;p

I know, but lets not get cocky : D

 

[pr0cs]

Played past the first section.
Cool design like how the viewpoints and gameplay mixes it up.
Graphically it's a mixed bag, nothing to write home to.
The voice acting and story (what little I've seen) is pretty meh, if you have trouble with most eastern titles this won't improve your outlook on them at all. Bad enough that I didn't see much reason to continue playing.

If you love Japanese games you might like this, the premise is cool but the overall experience is just too campy for my tastes

 

[Clear]

So,

I paid quite a bit of my own money for Nier Automata, but I very much disliked the experience.
I played Ori WotW (not exactly a game without challenges..) for free via GP, and it's now one of my favorite games of all times.

This is just a random example from my own experience. So obviously I can't fully agree with your notion. I can't see much negative about GP and "free games", I think it's a great service for most people.

To be precise:
I'm not against services like GamePass or PSNow as services. I can see the value being terriffic and the upsides great for many users.

However, I would never say they are a good thing for the industry/scene generally because after much consideration, my concerns about commodification and devaluation simply won't go away. I cannot shake the feeling that its a case of trading short-term gains for heavier losses in the long-term for users and developers alike.

 

[Flintty]

I finally tried it today. I’ve wanted to play this game for long - the style and gameplay always looked superb. But I’m notoriously bad (and impatient) at combat games with evade/dodge so I wasn’t sure if I’d really like it.
Got past the first boss on my second attempt and I’m hooked. Genuinely fun to play. The character animations are fucking superb, the combat is slick and it runs beautifully on the X. Still early days but all good so far.

 

[GhostintheRain]

Nier: Automata is a rare gem of a game and my goodness the soundtrack is epic. Please don’t miss this one if you haven’t played it.

 

[M1chl]

What the fuck was that transmission from bunker about getting rejected? : D Holy shit : D

 

[VAL0R]

I have to play through 3 or 4 times to get the "good ending." Through the same areas? If so that is super lame. I just started out and am at a resistance camp. It's OK so far. There are multiple areas that are big enough to run through but inexplicable invisible walls stop you. Can't you draw a board across the door or something?

 

[Danjin44]

I have to play through 3 or 4 times to get the "good ending." Through the same areas? If so that is super lame. I just started out and am at a resistance camp. It's OK so far. There are multiple areas that are big enough to run through but inexplicable invisible walls stop you. Can't you draw a board across the door or something?

That’s incorrect, Route B plays mostly like Route A but you play as 9S and with new story elements and new side quests but after that it’s whole new chapter.

What making people confuse here is Yoko Taro does end credits at end of each chapter and there is a very, very great pay off at final ending for that reason.

 

[KiNeMz]

I have to play through 3 or 4 times to get the "good ending." Through the same areas? If so that is super lame. I just started out and am at a resistance camp. It's OK so far. There are multiple areas that are big enough to run through but inexplicable invisible walls stop you. Can't you draw a board across the door or something?

Wrong, Wrong Wrong.

A section of the game you play twice from a different perspective. And its heaps different the second time.
Everyone in here, just play the damn game and get dont put it down until the 3rd act. If by then you dont like it fine. but to bith about a game at its first 10 minutes or not even played it. So much good in this game, it will blow your mind when those last credits role.

 

[ValiantTraveler]

I’m definitely getting this game at some point.

Mista where can I watch your stream?

 

[GHG]

I have to play through 3 or 4 times to get the "good ending." Through the same areas? If so that is super lame. I just started out and am at a resistance camp. It's OK so far. There are multiple areas that are big enough to run through but inexplicable invisible walls stop you. Can't you draw a board across the door or something?

As others have explained this is incorrect.

But really you're far too early in the game to even be worrying about this, just play the game and then decide whether you like it enough and are invested enough in the characters/story to do the other runs and experience the game in full.

 

[Fbh]

I have to play through 3 or 4 times to get the "good ending." Through the same areas? If so that is super lame. I just started out and am at a resistance camp. It's OK so far. There are multiple areas that are big enough to run through but inexplicable invisible walls stop you. Can't you draw a board across the door or something?

It's not about getting the "good" ending, it's about getting the whole experience.

No story spoilers but I'll put it as Spoiler anyway in case some people don't want to know anything beforehand:.

After finishing route A you play through the same story again but from the perspective of a different character (with a different fight style) which changes up some areas and expands the story in others. It is a bit repetitive as both playthroughs are very similar.

Then after having finished the story for a second time you unlock route C which is a completely new segment with new content, a new playable character and which moves the story forward beyond the first 2 playthroghs (it starts after the original "ending") and finished the story

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Spoiler

The main story doesn't even begin until route C. You need to complete routes A and B first and they comprise more of a prologue for the main story.

 

[GHG]

Snip

Honestly it's a bit of a spoiler to even say this. It's best for people to realise this themselves for the first time.