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sircaw
Banned
xHunter
Member
It's going to be fun seeing people defend this:
Is that the Velocity Architecture on the trees or what the fuck happened there.
Shio
Member
I don't know but for me regarding next gen, if i see grass i want it to move, if i see trees i want them to move, if i see clothes i want them to move, i want the particles to bounce and above all i want the player to be able to affect and interact with them all.My thoughts of this presentation are
-Halo looks good but just that for those who say the Xbox one doesn't hold back anything I mean please stop, the main enemy is the same
of halo wars 2 which is good and bad but let's see how this involve.
-The Rare game could be good but I we need to see more.
-Ori to 120 fps 4k, yes thank you and yes this looks much better than any dolphin game but not Ori even when gorgeus is not a tech showcase
-Medium looks good and is using the SSD in a great way with breathtaking effects but the graphics are good just that, is okay
-Stalker 2 that is good but we need to wait a couple of years again to see it released (niche game so it's not very popular)
-State of decay 3 .... bro really
-New game of Obsidian is something I want to see but I want to see in real time but I am still excited, the worst enemy of elder scrolls could be here
-Hellblade ... see you in e3/summer fest of 2022
-Double fine is okay
-Warhammer was a CGI so not much to say
-Crossfire is okay but as we saw so few fragments of gameplay I can't say if is closer to current gen or next gen
-Fable good I expect great things from Playground but really cinematic
-Tetris is okay but the version of other platform will have the same and not is not graphics benchmark
The conference was just fine, too many CGI and looks like we need to wait a couple of years until we see the real next gen graphics in XSX but hey the old Xbox one
doesn't hold back the games ..... good joke.
Imtjnotu
Member
i didnt see any forza gameplay tho.
Vae_Victis
Banned
More than one
Shio
Member
I think they could still turn this around. If they reveal that the halo footage was all Xbox One footage it would be impressive, they will reveal the Xbox Series X later?
saintjules
Member
For me it's like saying, here's a next-gen Console, but don't buy it.
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chilichote
Member
Maybe Halo Infinite goes F2P, therefore it has to run on Devices less or as powerful as the XBox One^^
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zaitsu
Banned
exactly that's the point of this tweet xDMore than one
Rudius
Member
Halo Infinite looks like a game limited by a 1.75 Ghz Jaguar CPU, 1.3 Tflop GPU, DDR3 memory
and 5400 rpm hard drive.
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sircaw
Banned
did they not say that the new Halo was stuck in devolpment hell or something.
Judging by what i have seen they are still onboard the event horizon.
Shio
Member
It's not even close, it looks like a generational difference.
sircaw
Banned
zaitsu
Banned
Before 23 July :
Strongest console in the world, 12 TF of sustained power, Best lineup ever
After 23 July:
I mean, gamepass is nice
xHunter
Member
I was thinking the same thing when they showed it. That they are going to switch to the next gen version, but that looked rather bad.
Tulipanzo
Member
Yeah, and MS has clearly showed we can trust those 100%.
After all, 2018 in-engine:
And today:
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DiddyInAHellcat
Member
Smh 
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saintjules
Member
Man, I'm really gonna wait for the price tag now before I decide on getting SX. It's shiny and I want it, but...yeah. Get Consumers on Game Pass, then show the power of what you just bought to justify you spending the cash.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Killer Sakoman
Member
Many people said it that the name of the new box is confusing and it really is. Even Microsoft is confused.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
zaitsu
Banned
Yeah, and MS has clearly showed we can trust those 100%.
After all, 2018 in-engine:
And today:
Right now im only waiting for "12 TF sustained downgrade" treatment for that 24 FPS Hellblade cinematic. After that we can just scrap another xbox generation.
Imtjnotu
Member
Yeah, and MS has clearly showed we can trust those 100%.
After all, 2018 in-engine:
And today:
velocity putting in work.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
3liteDragon
Member
I’m sure that they know at this point that everything’s riding on this showcase. Regardless of expectations, I think July 23rd is gonna be something special for gamers and especially Xbox fans.
Hoping they knock it out of the park.
Great Hair
Banned
"Xbone won´t hold back next gen!"
Halo just looks abysmal. Missing shadows (boxshaped-building underneath), low res-textures, etc.
image from 4K event, not 100% representative. Missing shadows though ...
Halo just looks abysmal. Missing shadows (boxshaped-building underneath), low res-textures, etc.
image from 4K event, not 100% representative. Missing shadows though ...
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Tulipanzo
Member
Slipspace demo ran at 4k60; HellBlade 2 is going to be tragic
Apollo Helios
Member
lol the last one as well but that's the point
Play Ghost of Tsushima then and it is available rn in current gen but it's Only on Playstation™
Yeah those pop-ins looked like the game is designed to run on HDDs and performing just like it even on SSD
Tulipanzo
Member
Just you wait when they add RT and it bricks your Lockhart
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
THANK YOU!Smh
this is what im talking about. we hear this from him every year.
Don Matrick was better prepared for next gen than him. go back and look at the xbox e3 2013 conference. it actually had games and game demos.
Thedtrain
Member
Good god those textures in the background are heinous. Did they show the demo for Xbox one on accident?"Xbone won´t hold back next gen!"
Halo just looks abysmal. Missing shadows (boxshaped-building underneath), low res-textures, etc.
image from 4K event, not 100% representative. Missing shadows though ...
Shio
Member
Yeah, and MS has clearly showed we can trust those 100%.
After all, 2018 in-engine:
And today:
Well in-engine from 2018 did match the in-engine cinematic we saw at the start today. In Engine doesn't mean gameplay. Just like photo modes in games nowadays look a lot better than gameplay.
Neo Blaster
Member
XSX version coming later in a patch, courtesy of Smart Delivery.
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Imtjnotu
Member
yes, PS4 ratchet looks better than halo in every way.
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Tiago07
Member
So now probably Sony will not announce anything for a while.
This is sad.....
The event was not so good and I hoped to see games running Real Time and "captured in XSX".
And they mentioned things for hype like Unreal 5 and the amazing "60 / 120 fps", but...
And we clearly didn't see anything that shows the power of the SSD like the Ratchet Showcase.
When Jim Ryan said "We will let the games do the talking", he was right.
I hope Lockhart's event will be better than that, but nothing have surprised me so I don't have any hype for this.
I hope for Fable look that better as the CG at least.
But my great disappoint is probably Sony will not show anything for now...
This is sad.....
The event was not so good and I hoped to see games running Real Time and "captured in XSX".
And they mentioned things for hype like Unreal 5 and the amazing "60 / 120 fps", but...
And we clearly didn't see anything that shows the power of the SSD like the Ratchet Showcase.
When Jim Ryan said "We will let the games do the talking", he was right.
I hope Lockhart's event will be better than that, but nothing have surprised me so I don't have any hype for this.
I hope for Fable look that better as the CG at least.
But my great disappoint is probably Sony will not show anything for now...
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sircaw
Banned
"Xbone won´t hold back next gen!"
Halo just looks abysmal. Missing shadows (boxshaped-building underneath), low res-textures, etc.
image from 4K event, not 100% representative. Missing shadows though ...
I remember Df talking about rachet and clank, they made such a big deal about a box was missing a reflection.
I can tell you this, after this conference, they have found a god damn gold mine.
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
Neo Blaster
Member
What gameplay?
zaitsu
Banned
They were pretty biased microsoft for half generation. Now the can prove that they aren't.
D
Deleted member 775630
Unconfirmed Member
Gameplay of Halo looked great.
Metroiddarks
Member
Is okay to desire something but in this case I need to defend Xbox, you can make your trees, grass, cloth with better physics but man
sometimes is not worth it, this is so stupid heavy specially the clothes that the devs use many tricks to simulate something close and they
need to be sure they put that physics properties in the elemen you probably will interact but you cannot go a make all realistic because
in any moment you will drop the framerate in a very easy way.
Doesn't matter how strong is your hardware any AA or AAA need to considered how much X thing will affect the performance and usually
you prefer use things which improve the gameplay, remember the gameplay is the king not the physics, not framerate, not the resolution
not even the graphics quality and as Halo Infinite runs to 60 fps you need to be even more careful you only have 16.6 milliseconds to have
everything ready for the next frame.
If the AI was improved in exchange of more reactive world I will prefered and also the anchor of Xbox one looks like is too much.
Tulipanzo
Member
343: "Our engine can create amazing, intricately detailed worlds..."
Me: "Holy shit!"
343:" But it won't, has to run on xbone. Enjoy your Shrek"
Vae_Victis
Banned
They will make me miss Major Nelson proudly presenting the array of stickers you got with your Xbox One
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Neo Blaster
Member
Jesus, Joel in a 1.8TF machine looks so much better than that Halo character. Goes to say how important art direction is.I think after todays presentation Sony might just cancel the ps5 and just stick with the ps4
Dodkrake
Banned
That's all.
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