Walter Matthau
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He’s right you know“A delayed game is eventually good*, a bad game is bad forever.
*Except for Crackdown 3”
― Shigeru Miyamoto
They went from the most anti-consumer company to releasing the Xbox one X and making gamepass a big success and completely axing the cancer of Kinect. So yea, they did massively turn around their public image. Only thing they still struggle with is exclusives and honestly, we will will just have to wait and see. I expect Sony will still dominate in that area though. You literally act as if the launch only matters. The best Sony exclusive came out way after the launch titles.'turned things around' is an extreme overstatement. Depending on who you ask, they did absolutely squat. And xbox one had AAA exclusives launching alongside it, and goodwill from the X360. Right now MS has neither.
God! this Fall is going to suck!
WTF MS? You started so strong out of the gate.. Who the hell decided to flex that muscle prematurely? This was your primary weapon going into next-gen, and you managed to fuck it up......again!
Like I said a couple months ago. It's like they had the football in hand, running down for the touchdown with no one around them, and they still fumble.
When they initially revealed the design of the Box at TGA, they were pretty much on fire. Doing the hardware teardown with Digital Foundry and Austin Evans. Then the May showcase happened..
that worked for nintendo not microsoft"A delayed game is eventually good. A bad game is bad forever" -Nintendo
Think this says it all
This is worse than the Xbox One, even in spite of all the DRM crap they still had games and real next-generation reasons to pony up $500.
Yeah this is Nintendo saying this, not a Microsoft studio... Big difference."A delayed game is eventually good. A bad game is bad forever" -Nintendo
Think this says it all
Not really. That was a thing with carts but games can launch and become something else later. I loved the last of multi and then they shit on one of the best multiplayer games ive ever played. So i guess we will see.He’s right you know
why? Plenty of third party games will be available this yearDelay the console too.
Ok. So don't you think, based on everything you've said, Phil Spencer is also responsible and should be questioned about all this? He's the man in charge, he watched 343 murder Halo, one of gaming's biggest franchises like you say. He says he's always listening to the fans. So after witnessing this murder time and again, why did he allow this latest one to happen? Imo he should be held accountable for this.If 343i keeps the development duties for this franchise after this shitshow then Microsoft basically kills Halo with it.
this studio single handedly managed to kill one of gaming's biggest franchises, and after a 5, FIVE!, year development cycle they still hadn't listened to fan feedback and they still couldn't ship a game on time.
343i is a burden and has to be closed down immediately after this game launches, either that or the whole studio needs to be completely reformed.
they fucked up 2 Halo games and a Halo collection, so basically everything they ever made was a failure. THEY are a failure.
but its not like that's a new take what I'm saying here, that's what many Halo fans said since at least Halo 5's launch, if not longer than that.
Accurate till the advent of internet patches“A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever.”
― Shigeru Miyamoto
The 360 and xbox one didn't launch with Halo.There is no next gen Xbox without Halo launch game. 343 studios......garbage in garbage out.
Time to pick up the games I’ve been holding off on for Sony and Nintendo.
I'm not a sony fan and I hate sony fanboys but this is fucking hilarious
why? Plenty of third party games will be available this year
Glad they delayed it but ps5 Road to 10 million became like a cake walk for sony . Competition is needed and ms isn't giving any unfortunately. Hopefully soon .
Is this going to be the narrative now, that they were on track to "win" the generation and destroy Sony, but Halo Infinite was the game that destroyed all that and single handedly ruined the division?Like I said a couple months ago. It's like they had the football in hand, running down for the touchdown with no one around them, and they still fumble.
When they initially revealed the design of the Box at TGA, they were pretty much on fire. Doing the hardware teardown with Digital Foundry and Austin Evans. Then the May showcase happened..
Imagine being this dense to believe that a proper launch includes zero first party titles.
why would I want to be stuck with older hardware for 3rd party games? The PS2 launch was a success due to third party games like SSX, Madden and Timesplitters.
If the hardware is ready, you think they should wait about a year for Halo?
What have they done during these last 5 years of development?
Are you kidding? 343 fixing one of their games may take half the generation. Do you not remember Halo MCC? It was years before that game was actually good.
343 needs to be repositioned. They suck.
There are zero first party titles. What don't you understand? They aren't prepared for this launch because the library isn't there, and you're literally comparing excellent third party games like SSX and Timesplitters to the garbage that MS has lined up. What's there to be excited for? Yakuza? Really? A timed exclusive?
Are you kidding? 343 fixing one of their games may take half the generation. Do you not remember Halo MCC? It was years before that game was actually good.
343 needs to be repositioned. They suck.
This thread is indeed pathetic and an indictment on what Xbox and its fandom has become. Thanking a company for delaying a game that has been in development for 5 years because it was memed. Keep that Covid shit outta here too - the delay has nought to do with Covid.
This forum is essentially a toxic youtube chat feed. Awesome.
Era is like some PC hive mind but this place is the opposite right now before launch of the new consoles. Shame it can't be somewhere in the middle.
Not for everybody...God! this Fall is going to suck!
pretty much MS: halo 6 is going to be a cross console cross play game between xbox one, xbox SX and pcIs this going to be the narrative now, that they were on track to "win" the generation and destroy Sony, but Halo Infinite was the game that destroyed all that and single handedly ruined the division?
Even if Halo was the GOTG it would not be enough to make the Xbox outsell the PS5. So many people in here don't seem to understand how brands work. I'm sure Apple will really have to pull out all stops with the iPhone 12 to outsell the OnePlus 9. Removing the charging brick from the box might kill apple!
GAF: "hahahahahahah halo infinite looks like a NES game, it's the shittest game ever and needs to be delayed!"
MS: "we're delaying infinite"
GAF: "hahahahahahaha omg they're delaying halo infinite, it was going to single handedly win the war for MS, can't believe they'd delay it!"
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so now yakuza doesnt matter anymore "great series" the sony fanboys jerking off to that franchise like its no tomarrow now its old new since xbox got it coolThere are zero first party titles. What don't you understand? They aren't prepared for this launch because the library isn't there, and you're literally comparing excellent third party games like SSX and Timesplitters to the garbage that MS has lined up. What's there to be excited for? Yakuza? Really? A timed exclusive?
So graphics are everything? We got a snippet of gameplay and are saying the dev is lazy now? Did you watch some sneak peak at the entire campaign and multiplayer? I guess that means BoTW 2 is wasting everyone's time as well seeing how the graphics are shit? I bet the devs who are working their ass off love reading this.
one moment fps is king then its how many studios you own now where back to graphics amazing . I guess everyone forgot that people play games for the game play since gaming is an interactive medium if all i cared about was graphics,cgi effects and story I would just watch movies and tv then.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Halo and 343i. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the delay and forum posts will go over a typical reader's head. There's also Phil Spencer and Bonnie Ross's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- their personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The the Halo and 343i fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these delays, to realise that they're not just delays- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Phil Spencer, Bonnie Ross,Halo and Craig truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Phil Spencer and Bonnie Ross's existential catchphrase "This is going to be the best launch ever," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Phil Spencer and Bonnie Ross's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.We should give some praise to any developer or manufacturer when they make a decision that benefit the game and the players.
Especiallyly such a hard one like this.
We all saw it, the game was not ready. They cound not had finished it in time.
It was probably the toughest call 343 and MS have had to make, but it is the best call.
It is the best for the players, no doubt.
They will now offer a better game, they will showcase better the Series X and they may be able to have his flagship back in action and be a powerful reason to get the console.
The fans have been asking for it every day, lierally asking them to blame covid.
I am glad they delayed it.
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"The decision to shift our release is the result of multiple factors that have contributed to development challenges, including the ongoing COVID-related impacts affecting us all this year. I want to acknowledge the hard work from our team at 343 Industries, who have remained committed to making a great game and finding solutions to development challenges. However, it is not sustainable for the well-being of our team or the overall success of the game to ship it this holiday."
Yes graphics are everything its the end all be all, the gameplay was also dull as fuck but lets not talk about that. BotW2 is trash and dumb to smoke. I know because my uncle works at Nintendo.So graphics are everything? We got a snippet of gameplay and are saying the dev is lazy now? Did you watch some sneak peak at the entire campaign and multiplayer? I guess that means BoTW 2 is wasting everyone's time as well seeing how the graphics are shit? I bet the devs who are working their ass off love reading this.