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Incredible Ratchet & Clankgameplay demo reveals PS5’s SSD difference
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jimbojim
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Sure, but surely X360 RROD was order of magnitude higher
Caio
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Ps4 RnC
Are they that different
Does this new RnC look current gen?
Night and day difference. But I'm not surprised you cannot see it.
INC
Gold Member
Where did I say I think it looks current gen?
I'll wait...................
Its a comparison pic, hold your shit together dude
BlueXImpulse
Banned
They are rifts apart.
Journey
Banned
So what you’re saying is that the same thing can be achieved on XSX, except these rift sequences would take an extra 1.5 seconds?
Sheeeit, who wants better ray tracing performance, machine learning and overall more power when you can have 1.5 seconds faster rift sequences.
The SSD isn't a magic bullet, but it's much more than just faster loading too.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
360's defect ratio was some 30% or something as far as i can remember and majority of the defects were from the RROD. It was a fraction of YLOD concerns over at PS3.
thelastword
Banned
Ha, at least they can't say it's 1080p and struggling to hit 30fps on PS5. It also has raytracing on PS5 at 4K and uses the SSD extensively...
People are talking about blur...?
Have they seen this uncompressed 4k footage below?...
https://mega.nz/file/2dAWhS7D#RiqEyBkmzY_LdexCh9UOjaiV7nPY2vwGJ1uNYmZgdf8
RoadHazard
Gold Member
More like they would take 5 sections instead of 2 seconds. But sure, why not, it could be done.
This is not the most optimal use of the SSD. Insomniac are basically just making load times faster here. What Cerny talked about, with streaming in new data as you're turning around in the game to get incredible detail on whatever you're currently looking at, is on a different level, and there the PS5 could definitely do stuff the XSX couldn't.
Journey
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They both have SSDs though, with an incredible boost in IOPS over last gen. There’s no more need of redundant game data strategically placed on different areas of a disk, this was tedious and took up disk space, developers are equally thrilled over this benefit. They can almost instantaneously call up data at GB speeds, an incredible benefit for both.
I think it’s only fair for people to want to see the difference it would have when the same effort is put in while using XSX SSD and it’s own setup of compression scheme and features, the same way people question the visual difference, we should expect from the power difference.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Screen covering jpegs are the new squeeze thru Doors loading mechanics.
Its easy to see where they are hiding the loads, hallways, jpegs ect.. Still a amazing but gonna have to design game in very specific to take advantage of it. Super fast load times are going to be great anyways.
Its easy to see where they are hiding the loads, hallways, jpegs ect.. Still a amazing but gonna have to design game in very specific to take advantage of it. Super fast load times are going to be great anyways.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Ps4 RnC
Are they that different
Does this new RnC look current gen?
You need healthy vision and a 4K screen to see it, but here are some more I made. Zoom as much as you like, and this is a heavily compressed video:
More 4K screenshots I made:
See the extremely detailed shadows from the tail hair
The lighting gives a realistic flavor to a cartoony game
This could pass as a CGI movie
Redlancet
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we need a unbiased VFXexpert hereto clarify
Redlancet
Banned
xbox did that with gears and nobody cares,this is way better
MastaKiiLA
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I'm really excited by the fact that this is a launch period title. If this is the kind of baseline we can expect from Playstation Studios, then the visual quality of games in a year or 2 is going to be amazing. I wonder if Insomniac is using the movie assets in this game. It might also be a reason they can get something looking this polished so quickly. They wouldn't have to create new high-quality assets, as they'd already have a ton of them already created from the movie.
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Yoboman
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It's also harder for cartoony games to look impressive imo, because they suffer more from diminishing returns: Ratchet ALREADY looked fantastic on the PS4.
I think on balance the next gen leap will be much more obvious on things going for photorealism, whenever we eventually see them. Demon's Souls might be the first up I'd guess.
But look at the Resident Evil trailer with the room with the chandelier, I'd say that's more immediately impressive than anything in Ratchet, but I doubt the underlying fidelity is any better.
JackNightblade
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theres no reason to believe this couldnt run on the xsx
Yoboman
Gold Member
In GOW they wanted to be able switch between the realms instantly, allowing for puzzles and different traversal options but couldn't do it due to the HDD limitations
CrysisFreak
Banned
PS5 gameplay is surreal, we now enter an age where not only the immediate environment around the character looks good, instead objects far into the distance still look beautiful too, gives the whole image this CGI look because you don't have shit LODs on the horizon. So clean, so pristine.
GymWolf
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Yeah let's jist hope it's something related to actual gameplay and not just for the spectacle.
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ah, thanks, exactly looked for that. There was something that was missing on Ratchet. The selfshadowing is totally missing. Maybe it is now correctly calculated via RT, but it takes a lot of depth from the character. E.g. around the eyes. But maybe that will change with the final game.Ps4 RnC
Are they that different
Does this new RnC look current gen?
supernova8
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Not really sure this shows the difference unless you're going to have it running XSX.
Don't get me wrong I'm unlikely to get an XSX, I have my eye on the PS5 but surely this is a case of 'Sony developers are much better at making next gen games' rather than 'PS5 is so much better'. Would you really notice 2 or 3 seconds more in that rift transition sequence? What if you could have higher graphical fidelity? Obviously Xbox doesn't help itself by having nothing to show that really competes with RnC right now but I don't think it means XSX cannot achieve similar things in the right hands.
Don't get me wrong I'm unlikely to get an XSX, I have my eye on the PS5 but surely this is a case of 'Sony developers are much better at making next gen games' rather than 'PS5 is so much better'. Would you really notice 2 or 3 seconds more in that rift transition sequence? What if you could have higher graphical fidelity? Obviously Xbox doesn't help itself by having nothing to show that really competes with RnC right now but I don't think it means XSX cannot achieve similar things in the right hands.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Nice one
Armorian
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INC
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Regardless both are clean as fuck.
But how many people have seen that tho, but yes you're right, it has been shown before
But how many people have seen that tho, but yes you're right, it has been shown before
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93xfan
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It did look smoother and no pop in for textures
Mistershine.
Banned
When did they demo the SSD speed? I saw the game swapping demo but nothing about the actual speed of the drive.
Bo_Hazem
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shenmue mugen
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I think they have the same duration
Physiognomonics
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makaveli60
Member
Damn, this sounds awesome.
assurdum
Banned
Ok I'm not a developer but really some people tries to argue faster data for games means solely just shorter loading times? Just use your fantasy, it's more access to various and wider graphic assets, more interaction with the environment (imagine a Rockstar game), more various NPC and so on. Why people think just to loading times?
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kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Emphasis on "unbiased".
Journey
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jimbojim
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Incredible Ratchet & Clank gameplay demo reveals PS5’s SSD difference
PS5 "launch window" game loads completely new environments almost instantly, and more.arstechnica.com
Not only that from article :
COMPLICATEEEEED!
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
where is the comparison?
INC
Gold Member
Google.....?
REDRZA MWS
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I’m sick of all this tbh. Now an “alternate reality” bubble opens on a screen and you pass through it and just because it’s a different level in supposed to be floored?
Look, neither console has shown anything truely next gen. Lets just be honest. That being said, these are launch window games, in a global pandemic with ppl working from home.
Just as always, the games will get better and better over time.
Look, neither console has shown anything truely next gen. Lets just be honest. That being said, these are launch window games, in a global pandemic with ppl working from home.
Just as always, the games will get better and better over time.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
thats not how this works. if you are making a comparison post you are supposed to compare two things. cant just post one thing and call it a comparison.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
no one is asking you to be blown away. the author of the article is pointing out stuff that he thinks can only be done on an SSD and they find it impressive.
i personally dont find it all that impressive especially considering the 2 second load masking screen, but there is no denying this is the best ssd demo we have seen in any game so far.