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Betting time: Do you think the Switch will be a success?

Will the Switch be a success?


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01011001

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not a chance in hell.
If they cut they price by holiday and release pokemon stars soon a decent success like 3ds not 60m units but max 30-40m
no it won't
has nothing to succeed
At that price no way !
I don't see that happening. With that price, that paywall and that game line up, I see it below 40M after 5 years. Maybe even below 30M units.


this thread is a really fun read with the magic of hindsight 🤣🤣🤣
 

DunDunDunpachi

Patient MembeR
It's Nintendo's game to lose. They seem wobbly and unable to keep momentum with the Switch but I'll chalk that up to COVID panic.

Same thing happened to Wii. By year 4, they were spiking the football. I hope Switch doesn't share the same fate. A mid-gen refresh and a 7-9 year lifespan would be aces. Heck, 3DS got 7+ solid years. Switch deserves at least as much.

Ey bro, while you're here counting Switch sales, these guys are out there having real sex!
But imagine having sex while counting Switch sales in your head :messenger_weary: :messenger_ok:
 
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Mozza

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It's Nintendo's game to lose. They seem wobbly and unable to keep momentum with the Switch but I'll chalk that up to COVID panic.

Same thing happened to Wii. By year 4, they were spiking the football. I hope Switch doesn't share the same fate. A mid-gen refresh and a 7-9 year lifespan would be aces. Heck, 3DS got 7+ solid years. Switch deserves at least as much.


But imagine having sex while counting Switch sales in your head :messenger_weary: :messenger_ok:

I posted this in another thread, i think the Switch will endure far more then the Wii.

" A little bit different though, after the casuals had got bored there was little market left for the Wii U, which was a major reason why the Wii U bombed, Nintendo just expected all those casual gamers to still be there and rush out and buy a Wii U, when in reality they had already jumped ship to smart devices and tablet devices.

Nintendo pretty much admitted to making a mistake by courting the casual gamers too much, just look at the sales of the two Mario Galaxy games, the first game sold around 12 million copies while the second title only manages 7 million or so, this indicates the more casual Wii user thought the first game was an easy motion controlled affair, when in reality it was as core as any previous 3-D Mario game, second time around the casuals were not going to get burned, also outside of the more motion orientated games the more traditional titles did not sell massive numbers, with the exception of the all mighty Mario kart, despite the Wii having a big 100 million or so install base.

Compare this to the Switch and the more traditional core games like Mario and Zelda are performing much better despite having a much smaller install base, Nintendo seem to have a much better balance with the Switch, so this time I do not predict a sudden decline in sales, but only time will tell. "
 

mysticboy

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sixamp

Member
The switch has MANY FLAWS but it's also a nintendo system that's driven by nintendo made games so it can't fail. The nintendies are just a bonus.
 

Astral Dog

Member
The presentation only showed how out of touch with reality Nintendo are and how they can't even read the market, nobody wants a stupid underpowered TV portable gimmick, nobody bought the Wii U and nobody will buy the Switch at that price hardcore Zelda fanboys may eat it up to play while taking a dump the first few months but then its goodbye little Switch.

Wait we aren't in early 2017? nevermind then
 
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Ritsumei2020

Report me for console warring
I think this thread just shows what the expectations of people who are into tech and have the necessary disposable income are like. The thing is, gaming enthusiasts are a small subset of the whole gaming population. Most people out there don't care about teraflops, resolution and framerate.
 

CitizenX

Banned
Heres how i would define success, does anyone outside a Nintendo fan care about anything that has released, the answer is no...as usual. They appeal to the same people and none of their games are really what everyone else is talking about years after. And spare me the Zelda....trust me, no one missed anything.
 
I very much doubt that fella. ;)

Lmao i'm not here to pass judgement on who is and who isn't having sex, but replying with the word fella at the end of your message was just the icing on the m'lady cake.

Anyway, on topic:

Surprised anyone thought the Switch wouldn't find success.

Nintendo knew they made a big misstep with calling the Wii-U, the Wii-U - and made the great step of simply making a portable console instead of a console with a giant tab as a controller.
 
Heres how i would define success, does anyone outside a Nintendo fan care about anything that has released, the answer is no...as usual. They appeal to the same people and none of their games are really what everyone else is talking about years after. And spare me the Zelda....trust me, no one missed anything.

Yet they are destroying Xbox in sales and may beat Sony
 

noshten

Member
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I expected Wii numbers in the West, but it seems that was actually conservative, should have no problems in getting to 25-30 million sales in Japan. Already consolidating the dedicated Gaming market in Japan with over 80% of hardware sales this year and over 75% of software being sold on the Switch.

PS5 will likely see a further decline from the PS4 in Japan, we haven't really seen such a situation in Japan since the days before the PS1 launched... this will have long term implications for Japanese 3rd Parties since the Switch is likely to sell just as much as the PS4 elsewhere.
 

gradient

Resident Cheap Arse
Heres how i would define success, does anyone outside a Nintendo fan care about anything that has released, the answer is no...as usual.

Sales not only maintain but keep going up. That would clearly show that people outside of "Nintendo fan" care and care enough to put money down. So by your own definition, it's successful. You didn't really think that one through did you?

They appeal to the same people and none of their games are really what everyone else is talking about years after. And spare me the Zelda....trust me, no one missed anything.

Again, the sales and success of so many titles on the system would directly contradict what you're saying. Not only are people still talking about the games years later, they're actually still buying them at rates that surpass new releases across all systems. Nobody is going to just "trust you" when you're making statements that are in direct conflict with reality.
 
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kraspkibble

Permabanned.
After this morning I have to say no and that really is disappointing. I want it to do well but I'd say it's dead in the water. The price is expensive (£280/$300!!), it has abysmal battery life (2.5-6hrs), and the launch games are dreadful. The only game I would buy is Zelda. I just can't see many people dropping that amount of money for any of the announced games.

The price to me isn't much of an issue. I could live with the poor battery life. But I am not going to buy a GAMING device when it has only 1 game I am interested in. I was looking forward to Mario but Odyssey looks awful. If we get a Pokemon game it will probably be just similar to Sun/Moon and I am already playing that. I don't see myself getting a Switch for a long time.

you were wrong motherfucker.

i did end up getting a Switch when it came out JUST for Zelda lol. Also i really enjoyed Odyssey. Quite enjoyed Pokemon Sword too.
 

Mozza

Member
Lmao i'm not here to pass judgement on who is and who isn't having sex, but replying with the word fella at the end of your message was just the icing on the m'lady cake.

Anyway, on topic:

Surprised anyone thought the Switch wouldn't find success.

Nintendo knew they made a big misstep with calling the Wii-U, the Wii-U - and made the great step of simply making a portable console instead of a console with a giant tab as a controller.

Well you did, you suggested anybody not interested in all this was having sex, I merely suggested that was not a given.

Why you brought it up in the first place is a mystery.
 

LarknThe4th

Member
Heres how i would define success, does anyone outside a Nintendo fan care about anything that has released, the answer is no...as usual. They appeal to the same people and none of their games are really what everyone else is talking about years after. And spare me the Zelda....trust me, no one missed anything.
Just what are Nintendo going to do with this devastating revelation??!! 😔😔
 

Veysetia

Member
Nintendo decided to focus on dominating a niche market and it paid off for them catering to that market they helped build, but they have 100% of the handheld market, Sony tried with things like PS Vita, but Nintendo needed an in, I believe they'll come back to the console realm again once they can find a niche to cater to, there is no point for them really to try and compete with Sony or Microsoft, and it's the path of least resistance for them not to.
 

Mozza

Member
Nintendo decided to focus on dominating a niche market and it paid off for them catering to that market they helped build, but they have 100% of the handheld market, Sony tried with things like PS Vita, but Nintendo needed an in, I believe they'll come back to the console realm again once they can find a niche to cater to, there is no point for them really to try and compete with Sony or Microsoft, and it's the path of least resistance for them not to.

You will find the wider mass market "Blue Ocean" Nintendo is after is far bigger than the core market, but it's far more fickle than the core market which remains at around 180 million consoles each generation.
 

Astral Dog

Member
You will find the wider mass market "Blue Ocean" Nintendo is after is far bigger than the core market, but it's far more fickle than the core market which remains at around 180 million consoles each generation.
I love that Switch is appealing to both casual gamers and hardcore ones, to Nintendo fans and gamers in general and to japanese companies and western heck,even tech enthusiasts. Nintendo hit the jackpot

Obviously level of support varies and not everybody is gonna be happy with the hybrid nature of the system, but it has really worked well, future looks bright
 

jigglet

Banned
As a shareholder with a six figure holding at the time, I didn't expect much from it. Anyone that was super optimistic was probably just a fan with nothing at stake. There was zero reason to be optimistic about it after the Wii U and how Nintendo was conducting business in general.

I more than doubled my money, but it was more out of luck than anything due to coronavirus etc. I can say that I won't be investing in this company again - they're too fickle and have no sense of continuity between systems so the transitions are always rough as fuck (e.g. burning the eshop and virtual console programs to the ground every generation...what the hell? Why???).

Nintendo always feels like one bad decision away from a Wii U again and that's not something I like to see as an investor.

As a fan though, their games are great. Stay as a fan, fuck the investment side of things. Never put money into this company. There are so many better ways to make money.
 
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StormCell

Member
Heres how i would define success, does anyone outside a Nintendo fan care about anything that has released, the answer is no...as usual. They appeal to the same people and none of their games are really what everyone else is talking about years after. And spare me the Zelda....trust me, no one missed anything.

The reality has truly sailed over your head, in this case. I find your argument to be rational, but your conclusion falls apart with how you define a "Nintendo fan." What is a Nintendo fan, or rather who?

The reality is that Nintendo fans are everywhere. Just about anyone with a little interest in video games who isn't an enthusiast likes Nintendo games. They may also like Xbox games or Playstation games. They're not all that concerned with FLOPS and the latest TLOU game. They're into Mario Kart and Smash. Switch is selling to a wide demographic of people who casually like video games. Literally, everyone in my extended family has a Switch (from youngest niece to grandma). Why is this?
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
I wasn't on here back when Switch came out so I have no "receipts" as the kids say, but I think the Switch's success was pretty easy to see:

1. They were able to sell the design and who it was for, like the Wii and unlike the Wii U.
2. It had an amazing looking Zelda game at launch.

That's it. It was also easy to see that JRPG and indie devs were going to move from the Vita to the Switch. What I did not count on were all the big publishers deciding to port everything onto it, and how successful they would be with that.
 
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