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[Maxwell Jacob Friedman]

Go ahead and set the terms and I'll review how ridiculous and subjective you made them before I agree to a figure.

Best out of three bet, winner needs to win 2/3 options
1. Hardware sales npd, starting launch for both systems until the end of the holidays jan 2021 (january included) Combines totals of each months hardware sales to total the victory of part 1.

2. total software sales for each system, which system sells most software until jan 2021. If we don't figure out totals we can Wash this one

3. Company that comes out with the highest rated exclusive content on their platform between Sony and MS by jan 2021. All exclusive titles released still have their meta scores posted and the platform with the most higher rated games wins. Also we need to define exclusives bring on pc as well is not exclusive.

Bonus if second one doesn't work. First to 10 million global sales.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

GAF today.

 

[Maxwell Jacob Friedman]

Love the username

 

[Maxwell Jacob Friedman]

you do realise any new Bethesda games are easily a good 3-4 years away? And MS haven’t proved they can output good 1st party games Outside of the usual Gears, Forza.

Fable was a mere teaser when they showed it, that game I’m sure has literally started production.

Hell Gears this gen became a non pillar with coalition fucking up, let him be on his high horse. I gottem right where i want them

 

[.Pennywise]

Is there a list of all the game IPs Zenimax owns (apart from the most actual ones)?

 

[lastmessiah]

Best out of three bet, winner needs to win 2/3 options
1. Hardware sales npd, starting launch for both systems until the end of the holidays jan 2021 (january included) Combines totals of each months hardware sales to total the victory of part 1.

2. total software sales for each system, which system sells most software until jan 2021. If we don't figure out totals we can Wash this one

3. Company that comes out with the highest rated exclusive content on their platform between Sony and MS by jan 2021. All exclusive titles released still have their meta scores posted and the platform with the most higher rated games wins. Also we need to define exclusives bring on pc as well is not exclusive.

Bonus if second one doesn't work. First to 10 million global sales.

Well number 3 is obviously laughable and not even worthy of consideration.

Where are Gamepass subscriptions factored into this?

 

[Compsiox]

It takes a while for the process to happen.

Yes that's why I'm saying you have nothing to base this on.

 

[Maxwell Jacob Friedman]

Well number 3 is obviously laughable and not even worthy of consideration.

Where are Gamepass subscriptions factored into this?

You told me to set perimeters, they were set, add in something if you'd like but i thought was the blockbuster of gaming?

 

[JLMC469]

Is there a list of all the game IPs Zenimax owns (apart from the most actual ones)?

Rage
DOOM
The Evil Within
Dishonored
Prey
The Elders Scrolls
Wolfenstein
Fallout
Starfield

Think I’m forgetting some...

 

[lastmessiah]

You told me to set perimeters, they were set, add in something if you'd like but i thought was the blockbuster of gaming?

Net revenue of MS and Sony's game divisions for the fiscal quarter.

 

[carlosrox]

they'd be fools to minecraft these games to other platforms

You think they'll keep these as honest to god Xbox/PC exclusives?

 

[.Pennywise]

Rage
DOOM
The Evil Within
Dishonored
Prey
The Elders Scrolls
Wolfenstein
Fallout
Starfield

Think I’m forgetting some...

Yeah I'm looking more for older abandoned IPs the company could have.

Those you listed are the ones I was referring to as the actual ones.

 

[Maxwell Jacob Friedman]

Net revenue of MS and Sony's game divisions for the fiscal quarter.

What quarter and until when, bet revenue as in software? Or all services including ps plus etc

 

[digitaltrance]

There will be exclusives, but I think for the most part they are going to be released on all platforms. I think the intent of the move was because of crazy backlash on 343 Industries

 

[Tesseract]

You think they'll keep these as honest to god Xbox/PC exclusives?

yeah

 

[lachesis]

At this point, I feel bad for that Axel Gneiting (the guy at id who made comments about scaling down..).
Looks like he didn't get the memo.... poor guy.

 

[Esteldan]

I will say that Sony's exclusive line up does look pretty safe and to be "more of the same".

However excited people may be for Horizon 2 or God of War 2, I doubt the hype is really going to be quite as high as they were for the first games. They'll sell well, but I don't think they're going to move systems in quite the same way.

Also God of War having a 2021 launch tells me it's very much going to be more of the same. A 3 year dev cycle potentially in the current AAA climate doesn't suggest it's going to be breaking new ground.

I don't think Sony are going to buy a Capcom or a Konami like some are saying, they rely too much on their gaming business being profitable in the presence to risk being in the red for an entire generation. Their strategy for the PS5 appears to be timed exclusives, exclusive third party content and releasing sequels/similar games to what worked with the PS4, I don't see that changing in the short term.

 

[lastmessiah]

What quarter and until when, bet revenue as in software? Or all services including ps plus etc

Q1 2021: January 1 - March 31

Revenue as in from any gaming-related products. Software and subscriptions included.

 

[Esteldan]

Yeah I'm looking more for older abandoned IPs the company could have.

Those you listed are the ones I was referring to as the actual ones.

Arx Fatalis

 

[Bernkastel]

 

[Scotty W]

Why

The less Jason the better.

He is a muckraking journalist, an enemy of gamers, and an enemy of this forum. Recall how he betrayed Evilore for clicks, or cancelled numerous others? This is how he climbed into his position of power. The best we can do is not give him a voice here. Besides, we have the news, it is confirmed, he is unnecessary here.

 

[carlosrox]

yeah

I guess we'll see, but I assume they'll share.

 

[.Pennywise]

Arx Fatalis

Yeah those are the ones I'm looking for.

There should be more. Couldn't find a list.

 

[Bernkastel]

 

[YawerhasPower]

Phil: "Fuck exclusives, we buy publishers."

Xbox is now an RPG powerhouse.

Now imagine if they buy cd projekt red. LOL

 

[Bernkastel]

 

[Bernkastel]

 

[JLMC469]

Like I said in the Sony thread, this acquisition (especially one of this scale) takes years. You don’t buy studios simply because you have the money and/or feel like it.

 

[carlosrox]

Just don't treat em like you did Rare.

 

[Bernkastel]

 

[Bernkastel]

 

[wolffy71]

Theres little chance they offer these games on PS5. Ask yourself this... If Sony can afford to lose software sales to drive console sales, couldnt MS afford it? Thats the argument i keep seeing. That this would hurt software sales.
This whole purchase is to counter the "no games" argument. Putting the games on ps5 just puts them right back at square one.

Secondly, most PS fans say they won't buy an Xbox to play xbox games as they aren't true exclusives and they will just play them on pc. Well the other side of that is... they can still sell you the software without putting it on PS5 because you will buy it for pc.

I could maybe see gaas type franchises as it would allow MS to continue to make money after the initial sale. But no other types on PS5, maybe a few on switch.

 

[tryDEATH]

You sound like a pathetic little child. Quote me the posts that you think are “infinitely worse” and more immature than yours. “Sony PR hot takes” lol.

I am the pathetic little child, dude you got your profile on private so people can't easily see all the trash takes you have had since you joined. Try hooping of Sony if you can jump that high, because it seems to be dislodged really far up into you and that is unhealthy.

you do realise any new Bethesda games are easily a good 3-4 years away? And MS haven’t proved they can output good 1st party games Outside of the usual Gears, Forza.

Fable was a mere teaser when they showed it, that game I’m sure has literally started production.

Nah man you're being generous 3 or 4 years is too soon go all in and say 5+ years. You fanboys really have become completely unhinged since this reveal about Bethesda. Go piss up another tree with that absolute drivel your spewing.

Sony had will most likely have 7 games that Hit 10 mill and spiderman was at 15 mill, much like how you could say maybe these games didn't sell full price you can't guarantee allot of those suBs aren't dollar deals that people took advantage of

figure not released, we deff get world sakes and npf for console sales and i guarantee Sony cleans up
Love how you also neglect nintendo is starting traditional like Sony and ya'll calling them blockbuster lol, blockbuster...? Yep selling 20 mill of one game franchise, outpacing your competition in half the time, actually keeping exclusives on your system is deff 'blockbuster" lmao
Frauds

They will get 7 hits if everyone of them is an absolute success, but I am not surprised you jump to conclusion when it comes to spinning for Playstation also those titles would be over the length of the generation, in which time GamePass will grow to anywhere from 25Mil to 30Mil subscribers.

Also Sony is not Nintendo stop trying to compare yourself to them, they are a completely different eco-system they don't really compete for the same audience that Sony and MS compete for. If Sony doesn't change soon it will end up like Blockbuster there aren't enough fools in Europe willing to spend €70+ on a single game when they can subscribe to GamePass for a whole year for 2 and a half PS5 games especially those in Easter Europe.

 

[Vyse]

Heck of a day!

 

[ZehDon]

 

[Maxwell Jacob Friedman]

Q1 2021: January 1 - March 31

Revenue as in from any gaming-related products. Software and subscriptions included.

I can fuck with that, im heading off for the night but ill hit you back tomorrow to finalise sound good, of the three I put already which one should we take out that or make it 3/4 wins

 

[MC68000]

Crazy acquisition. I really hope they don't make future projects exclusive and lock everyone else out. They did the right thing with Minecraft and it payed off. Let's see how consumer friendly they are in the future. With this acquisition, Gamepass is almost a must now.

 

[Esteldan]

The takes I've been reading about online/serviced based titles staying multiplatform and anything SP focused being Xbox/PC only makes the most sense.

I imagine the caveat will be for those though that they have to be cross platform. Microsoft want the best experience for Game Pass subscribers and more players in those games is obviously going to be much better then having some dead game be exclusive.

 

[Tchu-Espresso]

Crazy acquisition. I really hope they don't make future projects exclusive and lock everyone else out. They did the right thing with Minecraft and it payed off. Let's see how consumer friendly they are in the future. With this acquisition, Gamepass is almost a must now.

That would be known as anti consumer behaviour if you believe xbots.

 

[jigglet]

Son of a bitch. That was my prediction: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/microsoft-acquires-zenimax-bethesda.1567397/page-26#post-260270549

"I predict games that need a huge community to thrive will continue to be multi-platform, like Minecraft and games like Fallout 76. But single player games will all be exclusive."

 

[cheezcake]

Yes that's why I'm saying you have nothing to base this on.

History counts for nothing?

 

[Compsiox]

History counts for nothing?

Yes. The leadership and internal workings of Microsoft have changed a lot over the last 7 years.

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

I do think this may open up Pandora's box on videogame publisher and developer consolidation. Much like how the music industry went through it some time back and the movie industry is kinda going through it now. Isn't this the biggest VG acquisition ever?

Whether or not media giants like Disney, Comcast, Viacom start eyeing a publisher or two remains to be seen, but I think ATT will decide to stay in the game and Sony will start looking an acquisition or two. Other big publishers like EA and Activision may look to gobble up something as well. Nintendo will probably be BAU. It will be interesting to see how things play out.

 

[Bernkastel]

Deathloop And Dishonored Developer, Arkane Studios, Hiring For Two Unannounced Titles

gamingbolt.com

 

[PhillMeCream]

Microsoft isn't playing around this console generation
even if you don't get a console from them, you can stream it from cell phone or tablet or do game pass for the PC.
I'm excited for this next-gen era even though the launch titles are lackluster

 

[Megatron]

It’ll be sad to watch Microsoft run these great studios into the ground.

Bethesda seemed to be doing that already. MS can only help,

 

[Compsiox]

nevermind

 

[quest]

I do think this may open up Pandora's box on videogame publisher and developer consolidation. Much like how the music industry went through it some time back and the movie industry is kinda going through it now. Isn't this the biggest VG acquisition ever?

Whether or not media giants like Disney, Comcast, Viacom start eyeing a publisher or two remains to be seen, but I think ATT will decide to stay in the game and Sony will start looking an acquisition or two. Other big publishers like EA and Activision may look to gobble up something as well. Nintendo will probably be BAU. It will be interesting to see how things play out.

I don't this was extraordinary circumstances period. Microsoft is not buying other publishers. They had a console launch to save after the halo disaster. A bad start and they get steamrolled big time. Call it a hail Mary but it is what is a move to get people to pre order series consoles and sell gamepass subs. If Microsoft was out buying publishers like this while in good shape you would have a point.

 

[Warablo]

I just realized... the way Bethesda games will be coming to PS5, Switch and other platforms will be through a GamePass app/subscription. Either you don't play the game, buy an Xbox to play it, or sub to GamePass and use an app to play on PS5, etc.

Brilliant by Microsoft. They are going to be rolling in GamePass money.

Yep, I can see them trying to get Game Pass on Switch and Playstation and Sony being all pissy.

 

[cheezcake]

Yes. The leadership and internal workings of Microsoft have changed a lot over the last 7 years.

Yes it has changed and the most recent X1 era was the most disastrous for MS gaming IP. They ran their biggest franchise into the ground and the most successful new IP a Microsoft first party created was Sea of Thieves. Gears is okay but it’s just more of the same with nothing creatively interesting. Forza (Motorsport and Horizon) are exactly the same story.

Sony in the same time regarding highly successful new IP:

• Horizon Zero Dawn
• Bloodborne
• Spiderman
• Ghost of Tsushima
• God of war reboot (meaningfully different to the OG so I think it’s fair to count it)

Plus the sequels to existing IP were far better received than the Xbox equivalents (Uncharted + TLOU being prime examples).

Microsoft sucks at nurturing first parties and developing new IP. The most recent generation was the worst. My de facto assumption then is that the same mediocrity is going to spread to any new first party studios until evidence comes suggesting otherwise.