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[Speedwagon]

I’m still unsure on what to get to play Dread. The OLED is such a jump in price compared to the Lite that I constantly see at 179.99 on Amazon.de. Hardcore Metroid fan here so I will need a console to play it but do I really want to pay double the price for an OLED screen?

Lite isn't worth it if it's your only Switch, unless you get it on sale for like $150. If your joystick starts drifting you'll have to send it to Nintendo instead of switching out the joy-con.

 

[RoyalLaFlame]

Software and Hardware don't exist in a fucking vacuum. Holy shit... the price of hardware is directly connected to what experiences that hardware can run.

Why the fuck people buy iPhones? Because they're the only ones who run iOS. And they like iOS because it gives them a good experience and the apps they want. The cameras are basically the same nowadays, the inside is basically the same, but people still pay the Apple tax. It doesn't matter if the hardware is expensive or outdated, the experience of using it is what matters, and the price will reflect that. If Nintendo puts this hardware at this price, it's because only them can offer Mario, Zelda and Metroid. If you want to play them anywhere else, well, you can't. If Nintendo was competing on third parties (with some exclusives) with Sony and MS, they would be forced to put it in the same price range and compete in the same type of hardware, because the experiences they would have would be basically the same (that's why you have Xbox and PS on the same price range all the time, more or less). Nintendo doesn't do that, they tried and they failed.

The demand for the Switch is insane, why would they cut price? Why would they release the successor right now? Nintendo is a gaming focused company, they don't have the luxury of selling at a loss initially and them having other parts of the company recoup what was lost. They play it safe? Yeah, they do, but they can actually pull it out because people like Nintendo.

The market doesn't give a shit if you want a Pro or not. Now we have a cheap switch, a mid range one, and the most premium one... all running the same but with some distinctions between them. But the experiences are still exactly the same, and that's what sells it. Deal with it.

 

[ZywyPL]

Miniaturization, which is necessary for a mobile device, costs A LOT, that's why we get smartphones that are more expensive than laptops, while the DTR laptops cost 3-4x more than an equivalent PC. Plus power consumption and generated heat are number one constraints, so no wonder it's not more powerful than even the base XB1.

That being said, I'd love a handheld console like NSW Lite, but with small bazels, 1080p/120HZ OLED, something like a quad-core Cortex-X1 CPU, 8GB RAM and some decent GPU, maybe even and AMD RDNA2-based like Samsung is planning to put into their future devices, all that with some proper vapor chamber cooling. Basically a modern high-end smartphone spec-wise, but in Switch Lite form factor.

 

[Reallink]

Tbh I think it’s a good price. Considering Apple sells you an iPhone for $750 every year. Getting a gaming console for $350 every 3-4 years is a total steal. Ps5 is underpriced. So is the Xbox. Should have been 599 and 499 for digital considering scalpers are selling them for 700+.

Problem is the equivalent analogy would be selling an iPhone 8 for $750 in 2017, then another iPhone 8 in 2021 for $800 (instead of an iPhone 13 that's like 6-10x more powerful). Perhaps now you can see the issue. If computing price to performance ratios didn't improve over time, modern laptops or smartphones wouldn't exist. They'd cost Billions of dollars each if your price trajectory was based on the first 1970's PC's. I don't understand how so many people are ignorant to this fact, every single CPU/GPU unveil there's a peanut gallery gasping in disbelief when the new product is 50% faster part for the same price as their 2 year old part.

 

[Handel]

This elephant exists in your room, and a portion of other gamers room, but does not exist for the actual market surrounding the Switch OLED, just as the price difference between PS4/XBO consoles and the OG Switch wasn't an issue for the latter's sales despite the power difference. The market for the Switch OLED largely doesn't care about the PS5, especially considering how hard it is to get one, especially the PS5DE which is the one only $50 more.

 

[SLB1904]

Because they have games.

Really depend who you ask.

 

[Craig of War]

 

[//DEVIL//]

The price of the switch should have been 200$ long time ago . It’s a 4 years old system. To release this one for 350 is an insult.
It’s really sad when fuckers actually go spend money on this piece of shit .

just so their joycon drift after couple of months too.

just like I said in my previous posts. I do not know if apple fanboys or Nintendo fan boys are worse.

“ are you charging me over priced piece of shit for double what’s worth only? Amazing deal here I’ll bend over . Fuck me while you are getting my money “

remember the 1000$ stand ?

 

[Blond]

Switch OLED gives you an updated screen and slightly more storage for $50 more. PS5 makes you pay an extra $100 for a disc drive.

Which you save money on with physical games. Hitman digitally hasn’t hit 25-30 bucks used and new copies go for.

 

[Fredrik]

It's just very underpowered. I was hoping we'd get something that would help, at least in docked mode, but apparently not.

It’s a portable with a HDMI dock, I don’t think there is much they can do without going back to having a stationary console too, which won’t happen. Nintendo laid out these plans years ago when they unified the portable and stationary console dev teams, I think they’re too far down the rabbit hole to change anything now. They looked at 3DS and WiiU sales and placed their bet on the winning horse - portables.

 

[RoyalLaFlame]

The price of the switch should have been 200$ long time ago . It’s a 4 years old system. To release this one for 350 is an insult.
It’s really sad when fuckers actually go spend money on this piece of shit .

just so their joycon drift after couple of months too.

just like I said in my previous posts. I do not know if apple fanboys or Nintendo fan boys are worse.

“ are you charging me over priced piece of shit for double what’s worth only? Amazing deal here I’ll bend over . Fuck me while you are getting my money “

remember the 1000$ stand ?

Or maybe people want to buy the experience they like the most? Maybe they see the fucking value? Maybe they actually don't mind spending that much money on something they love?

Get off of your high horse and let people decide what the fuck they want to do with their money. This console is not for you, Apple is not for you, so why are you judging?

 

[prinz_valium]

XS X|S and PS5 are not portable consoles. Comparing apples to oranges.

Switch Lite for 150€ at European retailers is a portable console.

The new Switch is still overpriced Elektroschrott

 

[Reallink]

The price of the switch should have been 200$ long time ago . It’s a 4 years old system. To release this one for 350 is an insult.
It’s really sad when fuckers actually go spend money on this piece of shit .

just so their joycon drift after couple of months too.

just like I said in my previous posts. I do not know if apple fanboys or Nintendo fan boys are worse.

“ are you charging me over priced piece of shit for double what’s worth only? Amazing deal here I’ll bend over . Fuck me while you are getting my money “

remember the 1000$ stand ?

Nintendo fanboys are definitely worse, by a considerable margin. Not even Apple could get away with selling the same phone 4 years apart with a $50 price hike.

 

[Hydroxy]

My main issue with Nintendo is the price of the console, but rather the games. $350 is a one time investment. However you would need to keep buying super expensive overpriced Nintendo games. Not an issue if you sell after playing but if you like to keep the games then it gets very expensive.

 

[Corgi1985]

It's an extremely bad value especially considering the absolute garbage on the system. Any system with pokemon sword has to rank as one of the worst of all time.

 

[Von Hugh]

Nintendo is at their own special spot right now, they can charge what ever the fuck they want since parents will buy them to their kids anyway.

 

[mekes]

Have they announced the size of the OLED display? If its above 28" you are complaining over nothing.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Which you save money on with physical games.

Same with the Switch compared to the all-digital PS5 with $70 games.

 

[daclynk]

And yet they will still sell gazillions.

Because they have games.

this. i wonder. why do you buy this stuff anyway? isnt it for the games?

 

[SJRB]

It has archaic specs by today's standards, and releasing a """new""" version that has zero performance improvements for 350 is fucking insane. 64 gigs hard drive, are you serious?

 

[ArtemisClydeFrog]

It's an extremely bad value especially considering the absolute garbage on the system. Any system with pokemon sword has to rank as one of the worst of all time.

This is an absolutely awful post. Pokemon Sword/Shield has the best competitive game and it's not even close. Imagine looking to Pokemon for a challenging single player story. Your post doesn't rank among the worst of all time, but it's still really bad.

 

[tommib]

Lite isn't worth it if it's your only Switch, unless you get it on sale for like $150. If your joystick starts drifting you'll have to send it to Nintendo instead of switching out the joy-con.

Well, that’s sorted then. I’ll wait for the OLED to come out. Can’t wait for Metroid Dread!

 

[Abriael_GN]

There are people that play the switch exclusively in docked mode believe it or not. Im one of them.

Good for you. It's also irrelevant to the point that the Switch being portable has value for the average customer, and value has a price.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Nintendo is the only portable on the market and has the strongest IP on the market. That's why they can charge so much for their underpowered hardware.

 

[Banjo64]

It being £50 cheaper than a PS5 is one thing. But the thing that gets me is that it’s £60 more expensive than the Series S. The difference in hardware, and build quality, is in stark contrast.

I keep seeing people say ‘but Zelda/Mario/Pokémon’, and that’s great, but on the other hand an Xbox or PS has their own top exclusives and most importantly strong AAA third party support.

This really should have either replaced the normal Switch at the same price, or they should have lowered the price of all 3 units. £310 is just appalling.

 

[Blond]

Same with the Switch compared to the all-digital PS5 with $70 games.

Except games worthwhile never go on sale with switch. Why is odyssey still 60 dollars and 50 on sale?

 

[CrustyBritches]

Except games worthwhile never go on sale with switch. Why is odyssey still 60 dollars and 50 on sale?

It’s $36 right now for physical or digital. That’s about what I bought the digital version for my son’s Switch. BoTW has seen deep discounts like this as well.

However, I agree that PS and Xbox games tend to see faster and more sustained price drops.

 

[Greggy]

Can I play Metroid Dread, BOTW2, and every other Nintendo exclusive on my PS5?

How's the OLED screen on the PS5? How's the portability?

You can only play Ratchet at nearly 4K with Ray tracing that’s all. How are the frame rates on the Switch Oled? Yes we can predict them. How will it run cyberpunk?

 

[Orta]

So what? Not everybody wants a fucking ps5. I don't consider it yet to be worth whatever it costs.

The Switch has a sizeable library of quality games and I'd buy it before the Sony thing any day of the week.

 

[CrimsonSquall]

For a bit more money you can (in theory anyway) buy a more powerful piece of hardware. That's true. But people are willing to shell out the money to buy a relatively expensive Switch because of its unique characteristics and exclusive library of games. The Switch offers something much more unique and defined than a Playstation or XBox, and customers are lining up for it. Why charge less when you can get more?

Unique and defined? It’s just portable that’s it. Playstation has Dualsense which has way more tech than joycons

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

They charge full price for no effort ports of 20 year old games

Now that they're porting the switch into 2021 with bare minimum improvements, you're damn stright they want more money. Gotta keep those profit margins high

It's probably not going to sell all that well going into next year anyway

 

[GeekyDad]

Hardly an elephant. A cantaloupe perhaps. Have you not been watching Nintendo the past 20 years or so?

They do it...

 

[chonga]

Ps5 is a single pcb and cooling solution.

Switch has that plus battery, screen, charging system, dock etc. All this adds up.

Still should be cheaper considering how long it's been on market.

So according to your logic a single lump of the earth's rarest element should be much cheaper than a Switch because the Switch has more components.

That's not how it works.

The price of the constituent parts matter. And in the Switch's case, they're much lower. Processor: lower. Memory: lower. Storage: lower. Cooling: lower. Batteries are cheap. The screen will be one of the more expensive parts, but they're not as expensive as people are making out. They're certainly making a little extra profit on top of whatever they already are with the $50 premium.

 

[Nico_D]

My main issue with Nintendo is the price of the console, but rather the games. $350 is a one time investment. However you would need to keep buying super expensive overpriced Nintendo games. Not an issue if you sell after playing but if you like to keep the games then it gets very expensive.

Doesn't everything? You live your life, fun and all, and then you want a bigger apartment and you have to pay for water and electricity and parking space and that too gets very expensive. But does living there make you happy and give you joy? This same logic can be applied to a lot of things. I just don't think happiness has price. If it's cheap and makes it happy is the same if it's expensive and makes you happy - if getting happy through the expensive way doesn't make you poor and therefore possibly unhappy.

In any given month you can buy a hamburger or a magazine, pack of cigarettes and maybe go to a movie. What did that get you? Nothing permanent, just money into wind if look at it that way.

I have my monthly game budget. If I don't use it to buy a game I want, then it just goes to some irrelevant shit. I rather use it on something long term.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

People are about to buy a PS5 now?

 

[G Boaty]

I made a promise to myself that I'd never buy another set of joycons again, but I'd be lying if I said those white ones weren't tempting the pants off me.

 

[existensmaximum]

And still, it will sell amazingly well. They do it because they can? What's the surprise here? They have always been the rulers of the handheld market.

 

[GuinGuin]

It's a handheld for kid and people wishing to relive their childhood.

 

[DevilMayFlyForAWhiteGuy]

I thought this was going to be a decent late adopter revision until I saw it was $350. Really Nintendo? This should be $300 and the older Switch should be $250. As a secondary console I’d be getting just to play the handful of actual new Exclusives (WiiU ports don’t count I already have a WiiU), this is a bad deal, but then the Switch has always eeked by on the “portability” meme while having very few new exclusives and relying on WiiU/extremely downgraded PS4 ports.

 

[Armorian]

Switch emulation exist so you don't have to buy this ancient hardware

 

[GymWolf]

You pay for the quality.

Drifting uncomfortable joycons and the stand that scratch your screen requested days and days of R&D.

 

[sinnergy]

For the best selling portable it’s a reasonable price, you can always get a second job

 

[GymWolf]

It's not Nintendo's problem that Sony and MS are selling their hardware at a huge loss.

It is not Nintendo being expensive, but Sony wizards offering the best next gen hardware possible for a super affordable price.

 

[balt1kr1s]

The thing is that most of the people are not very good when it’s comes to knowledge about technology.
Ask someone what processor their smartphone have and most won’t have a slightest idea unless they listened to Apple marketing and heard something about bionic.

New white colour, redesigned carton box with “oled” put on it and extra $50/£30 is more than justified for those who want to play mario, zelda or whatever.

If you tech-savvy enough to know that this is way underpowered when it comes to pricing, good for you but reality from the point of view of most consumers is completely different.

 

[tommib]

The thing is that most of the people are not very good when it’s comes to knowledge about technology.
Ask someone what processor their smartphone have and most won’t have a slightest idea unless they listened to Apple marketing and heard something about bionic.

New white colour, redesigned carton box with “oled” put on it and extra $50/£30 is more than justified for those who want to play mario, zelda or whatever.

If you tech-savvy enough to know that this is way underpowered when it comes to pricing, good for you but reality from the point of view of most consumers is completely different.

Being tech-savvy means shit here. You either want to play Nintendo games or you don’t. If you’re not buying hardware because they don’t fit your list of retail prices per component then you don’t know anything about videogame culture or the history of Nintendo. Underpowered means nothing if Nintendo keeps making the games fans want to play.

 

[Diddy X]

That's the price people are willing to pay for it, no more no less.

 

[rofif]

yep. It's way to expensive.
Ps5 has much more material used, better specs, better controller included... generally it has more/better everything but no screen. And screen is like 50usd tops

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

Gahd her voice is annoying

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

yep. It's way to expensive.
Ps5 has much more material used, better specs, better controller included... generally it has more/better everything but no screen. And screen is like 50usd tops

Its sold at a loss though.

 

[balt1kr1s]

Being tech-savvy means shit here. You either want to play Nintendo games or you don’t. If you’re not buying hardware because they don’t fit your list of retail prices per component then you don’t know anything about videogame culture or the history of Nintendo. Underpowered means nothing if Nintendo keeps making the games fans want to play.

Actually, if you really know Nintendo history then switch oled pricing is even less convincing to buy it.

In the past Nintendo handhelds were less powerful than their competition but their price was much lower. You could either get more powerful PSP for more money or get less powerful NDS but for less money.

I would like to play some Nintendo games again but their pricing is closely reaching next gen consoles offering with far better specs offering much better graphics better frame rate etc

So yeah, I would like to play mario or Zelda now and then but I’m not desperate enough.

It’s indeed it’s the only hardware where you can play Nintendo games but they get away with this ridiculous pricing only because they have no competition in handheld consoles.