If they also removed the multiplayer it would be very likely people would.I highly, highly doubt people would get mad if they remastered Bloodborne and charged 70 bucks for it.
That's false. A remaster for Bloodborne has been going on for years now and there's almost no one who is actually against it. People are upset because they believe not enough changes were made to the remake/remaster of TLOU. People knew for weeks prior to the leaks that there would be no multiplayer. You could literally do a 1-for-1 remaster for Bloodborne (even without PvP) and people would accept it for 70 bucks.If they also removed the multiplayer it would be very likely people would.
But Dark Souls Remastered was also on the minimalistic side other than the stable 60 fps and people seemed to have accepted that.
Yeah, simply wrong.No, I’m not. Demons soul would be a remake. I’m saying TLOU is a remaster, not a remake. Pretty simple right?
I'm 99.9% sure a lot of people wouldn't be OK with the multiplayer removed and still paying 70$/80€ for Bloodborne Remastered.That's false.
Yes, provided it would be like Dark Souls Remastered where nothing was removed and fps doubled and stabilized. And that was cheaper than 60$ (40$ IIRC).A remaster for Bloodborne has been going on for years now and there's almost no one who is actually against it. People are upset because they believe not enough changes were made to the remake/remaster of TLOU. People knew for weeks prior to the leaks that there would be no multiplayer.
I would be very surprised if that were the case, Bloodborne is highly regarded PS game like LTOU and if even TLOU gets called out for no multi, I'm sure Bloodborne would too.You could literally do a 1-for-1 remaster for Bloodborne (even without PvP) and people would accept it for 70 bucks.
actually, we would because the 70 dollar bullshit is fucking stupidI highly, highly doubt people would get mad if they remastered Bloodborne and charged 70 bucks for it.
People knew the $70 price tag weeks agoI'm 99.9% sure a lot of people wouldn't be OK with the multiplayer removed and still paying 70$/80€ for Bloodborne Remastered.
Yes, provided it would be like Dark Souls Remastered where nothing was removed and fps doubled and stabilized. And that was cheaper than 60$ (40$ IIRC).
On TLOU Remake I'm still sceptic if it's really made from the ground up for PS5 as claimed.
I would be very surprised if that were the case, Bloodborne is highly regarded PS game like LTOU and if even TLOU gets called out for no multi, I'm sure Bloodborne would too.
I don't think anyone's complaining about the devs not being upfront about what's being delivered.People knew the $70 price tag weeks ago
People knew multiplayer was removed from TLOU remake weeks ago.
This recent drama started AFTER the leak gameplay surfaced.
well ppl complains untill release sad but true but 70 is too muchPeople knew the $70 price tag weeks ago
People knew multiplayer was removed from TLOU remake weeks ago.
This recent drama started AFTER the leak gameplay surfaced.
IMO It's not worth $70 either but at least the original Demon Souls was only available on PS3 and hadn't seen any remaster or ports in over 10 years.
If there was a Demon Souls remaster that was playable on Ps5 at 1800p and 60fps then the excitement for the remake would have probably been lower, specially if they also cut out the multiplayer features in the remake.
Also people are usually more forgiving with launch titles, specially when they have really nice graphics.
You're missing the point. There's nothing wrong with complaining about the price. I said this outrage started recently because people believe everything was basically copy and pasted over from the original game outside of the visuals. People think ND lied about the modernized gameplay.I don't think anyone's complaining about the devs not being upfront about what's being delivered.
People can rightfully point out that they're getting less game content for the same/higher price.
Yes, I think $70 is too much.well ppl complains untill release sad but true but 70 is too much
What’s wrong? I haven’t played demon souls(either game), so maybe I am overestimating what it is. Is it a reskin of the original game? Is the VO, music the same? Is it the same game engine? Are the levels exactly the same?Yeah, simply wrong.
New music, voice, art, gfx, menues all 100% redoneWhat’s wrong? I haven’t played demon souls(either game), so maybe I am overestimating what it is. Is it a reskin of the original game? Is the VO, music the same? Is it the same game engine? Are the levels exactly the same?
There was a video earlier in this threat of attack animations side by side and it leads some credence that there was some copy/paste involved in the PS5 gameplay.I said this outrage started recently because people believe everything was basically copy and pasted over from the original game outside of the visuals. People think ND lied about the modernized gameplay.
It’s a PR blunder, they shouldn’t have used that term and shouldn’t have talked about implementing what they learned from Part 2, without explaining exactly what that means.Personally I don't really mind some re-use of animations but it's gets harder and harder to sell this game as a "from the ground up remake" the more such re-uses come to light.
I highly, highly doubt people would get mad if they remastered Bloodborne and charged 70 bucks for it.
The game was basically ported over to the PS4 a year later. Probably would've released it earlier if wasn't such a difficult task. There are far more improvements in this remaster/remake.Isn't a fair comparison. Tlou was already remastered.
So the time between the release of the game and the release of the remake is more important than the quality of the remake?
Bare in mind we had Resident Evil, Resident Evil Directors Cut and Resident Evil Remake in a shorter time frame than TLOU, TLOUR and TLOUP1.
It seems crazy to me that 10 or 11 years since the last release is considered OK for Demons Souls, but 8ish years since the remaster and 9ish years since original release for TLOU is completely unacceptable.
Most videos views are done in that time, for example GOW:R trailer from last week is at 7.1Over 1 million views in about 11 hours. Seems fitting for a game "no one asked for" lmao.
I highly, highly doubt people would get mad if they remastered Bloodborne and charged 70 bucks for it.
Shhhh we dont talk about nintendo here .. they are watching ... be afraidtrue 70€ is too much, but why noone complains Nintendos 100 years old ports, and they havent sometimes even upped res? but ppl pay 60€ pop per game and isnt complaining
Both are terrible value and I never bought DS at launch. Played it on PS3, don't feel the need to play it again.I'm struggling to understand how people say £70 for this game is bad, yet Demons Soul's remake at £70 is acceptable. Both are PS3 games with basically the assets reworked.
Is it just perceived worse for TLOU because it got a remaster last gen, or is there something I'm overlooking?
I don't think you get my point, it's not about the time of release, but rather the availability and current state of the original release.
Aside from emulation on PC, if anyone wanted to play Demon Souls the only option was to get a Ps3 and play the game in its original state at 720p and 30fps with drops and the traditional FROMSOFT bad frame pacing.
Which is annoying for multiple reasons because not everyone has a Ps3 and even those who once did might have gotten rid of it in the 16 years since it launched, additionally playing games at 720p and 30fps with drops feels pretty bad in this age of 1080p+ and 60fps gaming even on consoles.
Compare that to TLOU1 which is literally playable on both Ps4 and PS5 right now at 1800p and 60fps. (I think it's 1080p on base Ps4)
As I said, if Demon Souls had been playable on ps5 at 1800p and 60fps then a remake would have been less enticing, specially if it also cut the multiplayer features.
IMO no game from the Ps3 that got a remaster or port and is playable on modern consoles with decent resolution and framerate needs a remake. Dark Souls is one of my favorite games of all time and it came out before The Last of Us, but it already got remastered and is playable on all modern platforms with a decent resolution and framerate, so I'd much rather have FROM software release a new game or a remake of an older game (like Otogi) instead of a $70 remake of Dark Souls 1 with no multiplayer.
It's not called TLoU so you're right.I highly, highly doubt people would get mad if they remastered Bloodborne and charged 70 bucks for it.
It’s a remake. And your mental gymnastics doesn’t change that fact.What’s wrong? I haven’t played demon souls(either game), so maybe I am overestimating what it is. Is it a reskin of the original game? Is the VO, music the same? Is it the same game engine? Are the levels exactly the same?
Edit: by some peoples definition I guess no man’s sky is a remake too.
People didn't get mad about The last of Us Remastered. They got made about the remake of The Last of Us Remastered. Do you see the difference? A better take would be if people would be as mad if Fromsoft try to do a Dark Souls Remake.It's not called TLoU so you're right.
Graphics fidelity increase is very impressive, but I'm not so sure if I like this desaturated look (color grading). Original TLOU1 on PS3/PS4 was very colorful game compared to this remake.
I highly, highly doubt people would get mad if they remastered Bloodborne and charged 70 bucks for it.
I highly, highly doubt people would get mad if they remastered Bloodborne and charged 70 bucks for it.
Don't know from where you are buying your games but I can easily preorder the game for 59,95€.well ppl complains untill release sad but true but 70 is too much
The last of us remastered was released before the last of us part 2. The hate train hadn't started yet lolPeople didn't get mad about The last of Us Remastered. They got made about the remake of The Last of Us Remastered. Do you see the difference? A better take would be if people would be as mad if Fromsoft try to do a Dark Souls Remake.
Imagine the topics and excuses if the game hits #1, since it's an unnecessary remake no one cares about, lmao.Jesus you guys still going
Meanwhile Sony and ND come release date
Yeah it will sell and will sell very well.Imagine the topics and excuses if the game hits #1, since it's an unnecessary remake no one cares about, lmao.
I'm sure the list is already worked on.
Remember after TLoU2 came out? Then for months on end it kept winning awards. And was still be talked about. And was still getting awards. The bottom of the barrel comments and grasping at straws from the people who never even played the gameImagine the topics and excuses if the game hits #1, since it's an unnecessary remake no one cares about, lmao.
I'm sure the list is already worked on.
As divisive as TLOU2 was it was still an ambitious game that obviously had much passion and care put into it. I am one of it's biggest fans but I have issues with this remake. This is more like what Rockstar did with the GTA trilogy. Maybe not quite that bad but nothing about this justifies a seventy dollar price tag. Why not make a Lost Legacy type of expansion to TLOU2 instead?Remember after TLoU2 came out? Then for months on end it kept winning awards. And was still be talked about. And was still getting awards. The bottom of the barrel comments and grasping at straws from the people who never even played the game
That's why so many people are still mad in 2022 let's be honest, lmao.Remember after TLoU2 came out? Then for months on end it kept winning awards. And was still be talked about. And was still getting awards. The bottom of the barrel comments and grasping at straws from the people who never even played the game
Bloodborne kinda needs a remaster/remake, because of its technical issues on PS4. Also, hasn’t already sold tens of millions. I’d be tempted to purchase a complete overhaul of it like Demon’s Souls, due to the likely vastly better experience.
Last Of Us remaster was a rock solid, excellent experience on PS4. It sold many, many millions. Remake completely unnecessary. Especially at full price!
Bloodborne could simply give 60FPS with no other changes and many hardcore gamers would pay two hundred dollars for it. That being said in both cases it would be a cheap cash grab.Bloodborne doesn't "need" a remake. Bloodborne could get away with a next gen patch like every other PS4 game, but there are people online slamming TLOU Part 1 whilst asking for a Bloodborne Remake which further points out the blatant hypocrisy from a lot of gaming fans.