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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine

Kenpachii

Member
Can somebody drone that clown already, so we can all move back to normal. I can't wait to pay out of my asshole this winter when it comes to heating / electricity.
 
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IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62363225

Further evidence of Russian war crimes. They're now killing POWs.

There is a video going round of the Olenivka prison incident. I'm not going to post it here, but it's absolutely sickening.

On one hand, I understand the west stepping in and using force against Russia could kick off world war 3 and nuclear war. However, on the other hand I don't feel comfortable with the rest of the world sitting back and allowing Russia to get away with these war crimes.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62363225

Further evidence of Russian war crimes. They're now killing POWs.

There is a video going round of the Olenivka prison incident. I'm not going to post it here, but it's absolutely sickening.

On one hand, I understand the west stepping in and using force against Russia could kick off world war 3 and nuclear war. However, on the other hand I don't feel comfortable with the rest of the world sitting back and allowing Russia to get away with these war crimes.

unfortunately that’s the way it is, the only possible justice will be at The Hague…but that will require a dismantled and capitulated Russia, which is going to be very far off
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62363225

Further evidence of Russian war crimes. They're now killing POWs.

There is a video going round of the Olenivka prison incident. I'm not going to post it here, but it's absolutely sickening.

On one hand, I understand the west stepping in and using force against Russia could kick off world war 3 and nuclear war. However, on the other hand I don't feel comfortable with the rest of the world sitting back and allowing Russia to get away with these war crimes.
You mean the after video with the limbs and burned bodies? Or theres an actual video of the attack?
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
You mean the after video with the limbs and burned bodies? Or theres an actual video of the attack?

Yeah, that's the video I'm talking about. I'm sure there are worse videos floating about of the war crimes committed in this conflict, but it was the first and hopefully only one I'll see that's that graphic.
 

Tams

Member
The cynic in me sees that and thinks "Wow the folks in the EU Commission must be looooving it". Every crisis usually ends with the Commission getting more and more power over the member states. And we wonder why the UK left the EU? To get out of shit like this. The EU institutions might mean well but seriously the Eurozone members were fucked as soon as they gave up their own currencies.
And yet we still have sycophants who think they are 'European'. Just... urrgghh. Norway, Iceland, and Switzerland have the right idea.
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Of course they’re not. Xi has taken one look at Putin’s fucking disaster and knows he’ll get worse if he tries it too.

It would be a lot more difficult for the CCP to invade Taiwan because of its geographical location. Plus it's very likely that the US and even Japan wouldn't just sit back and watch.

Then there are sanctions. Please, correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm absolutely no expert, but would the same sanctions used on Russia also work on the CCP? The economy of China is ten times bigger than Russia for a start. It also holds 3 trillion dollars in foreign exchange reserves, plus holds a major amount of US government debt. Not to mention it's the world's workshop, with major companies, such as Apple, using China to manufacture it's hardware. In that regard, it's hard to see how any sanctions would have the same impact.

Hopefully it'll never happen and it's just more chest beating from the CCP, but I wouldn't complelty rule it out.
 

nemiroff

Gold Member
And yet we still have sycophants who think they are 'European'. Just... urrgghh. Norway, Iceland, and Switzerland have the right idea.
Norway and Iceland and others while not being official EU members are deeply embedded into EU via EEA to gain access to the EU trade market having adopted about 20% of EU laws and regulations. I for one don't see only this in a 1bit binary, EU has both some good and some bad. With that said, every time I have to put my car for a EU inspection even though we're not EU members I'm cursing at them as everyone else for sure :)

Anyway, here's a before and after for the Olenikva massacre. I'm no expert but it seems like the debris is heading west-ward (north is down)..

 

sinnergy

Member
Holy shit Russia isa piece of shit .. now they have killed a grain baron.. but at least there was a grain deal made .. we just kill and bomb everything else 🤣🤡
 
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Thaedolus

Gold Member
Holy shit Russia isa piece of shit .. nowctgey have killed a grain baron.. but at least there was a grain deal made .. we just kill and bomb everelse 🤣🤡
Shocked Dog GIF
 

Russian-Occupied Kherson 🇷🇺 Russian soldier in Kherson saying that they're f*cked and can't retreat because Kadyrovites are standing on the other side of Dnipro ready to shoot at those who dare to retreat.​


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I could feel bad for them, but that already passed, they could just kill the heads and surrender, but if they want to keep going, get fucked. Hope many of those Ruzzian soldiers get fucked really hard. Hope when things go bad, they decide to go back and kill those Klamydia soldiers too.
 

winjer

Gold Member
I wouldn't be able to recognize the aircraft carrier, but those are clearly a bunch of F/A-18s on the deck lol

Russia only has one aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov. It is very different from US carriers.
It's has had quite a few accidents in previous years. Including one big accident in the dry dock where it was supposed to be repaired. And it is still not repaired.

On a curious note. The Admiral Kuznetsov was built in the Ukraine, before the fall of the Soviet Union. The same as the Moskva.
But since Russia has no dry dock to host such a big ship, they had to use a temporary floating dock. But this one sank and damaged the Admiral Kuznetsov, even further.

novo.jpg
 
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Patrick S.

Banned
Russia only has one aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov. It is very different from US carriers.
It's has had quite a few accidents in previous years. Including one big accident in the dry dock where it was supposed to be repaired. And it is still not repaired.

On a curious note. The Admiral Kuznetsov was built in the Ukraine, before the fall of the Soviet Union. The same as the Moskva.
But since Russia has no dry dock to host such a big ship, they had to use a temporary floating dock. But this one sank and damaged the Admiral Kuznetsov, even further.

novo.jpg

Holy crap, that smoke... is that ship running on coal?
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Russia only has one aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov. It is very different from US carriers.
It's has had quite a few accidents in previous years. Including one big accident in the dry dock where it was supposed to be repaired. And it is still not repaired.

On a curious note. The Admiral Kuznetsov was built in the Ukraine, before the fall of the Soviet Union. The same as the Moskva.
But since Russia has no dry dock to host such a big ship, they had to use a temporary floating dock. But this one sank and damaged the Admiral Kuznetsov, even further.

novo.jpg
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Patrick S.

Banned
Arguably worse, it uses mazut.

Other carriers are nuclear powered or use cleaning burning gas turbines. Mazut is something special. In a very bad way.

Developed countries break mazut down into diesel before they use it. Russia... use it as it is. It's nickname is 'waste oil'.

Haha, I wouldn't expect any different from the Russkies.
 

Tams

Member
Haha, I wouldn't expect any different from the Russkies.
Would it surprise you that it's cheaper than crude oil? Or that some parts of Russia still burn it for domestic use?

To be clear, some is used by developed countries, we tend to call it 'fuel oil', but even then it's not as shit as mazut. No modern navy should be using it.
 
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Russia only has one aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov. It is very different from US carriers.
It's has had quite a few accidents in previous years. Including one big accident in the dry dock where it was supposed to be repaired. And it is still not repaired.

On a curious note. The Admiral Kuznetsov was built in the Ukraine, before the fall of the Soviet Union. The same as the Moskva.
But since Russia has no dry dock to host such a big ship, they had to use a temporary floating dock. But this one sank and damaged the Admiral Kuznetsov, even further.

novo.jpg
That looks like complete trash, something you'd see in the movie waterworld.
 

winjer

Gold Member
That looks like complete trash, something you'd see in the movie waterworld.

It has seen a very rough life. For a few reasons.
One is that Russia didn't have a dry dock big enough to repair, maintain and upgrade the ship.
Another is that after the fall of the Soviet union, there was not enough money.
And then there is the rampant corruption in Russia and it's military.

No imagine a country pretending to be a major world power in the XXI century, and all you got is an old, broken Carrier.
That's why they choose to use the image of a USS Carrier.
 

M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Boy that Serbia, tho... I got a bad feeling about this.

Like someone wrote, Serbia is China/Russia entrance to Europe and puppet in Hungary block any response to it. Kosovo don't even have an army.
 

winjer

Gold Member
Boy that Serbia, tho... I got a bad feeling about this.

Like someone wrote, Serbia is China/Russia entrance to Europe and puppet in Hungary block any response to it. Kosovo don't even have an army.

Is Serbia trying to cause another World War?
 

Gp1

Member
Russia only has one aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov. It is very different from US carriers.
It's has had quite a few accidents in previous years. Including one big accident in the dry dock where it was supposed to be repaired. And it is still not repaired.

On a curious note. The Admiral Kuznetsov was built in the Ukraine, before the fall of the Soviet Union. The same as the Moskva.
But since Russia has no dry dock to host such a big ship, they had to use a temporary floating dock. But this one sank and damaged the Admiral Kuznetsov, even further.

novo.jpg

If this was the situation of the Kuznetsov, it was ok...

The current Kuznetsov state is this:

 

mxbison

Member
Can somebody drone that clown already, so we can all move back to normal. I can't wait to pay out of my asshole this winter when it comes to heating / electricity.

At this point I kinda doubt it would end with Putin. The majority of Russia seems to support the war.
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Boy that Serbia, tho... I got a bad feeling about this.

Like someone wrote, Serbia is China/Russia entrance to Europe and puppet in Hungary block any response to it. Kosovo don't even have an army.

Is this the licence plate incident you're referring to? It sounds crazy that it could all kick off over licence plates, but tensions have been so high in the region for so long, I wouldn't be shocked if this was the straw that broke the camel's back.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/kosovo-closed-border-serbia-conflict-b2135273.html
 
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